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Is the FV 4202 underrated?

  1. Yes, it is better then what most believe (17 votes [68.00%])

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Tomio_Hara #1 Posted 21 January 2017 - 09:01 PM

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I believe that my favorite tier X medium tank, the FV4202, is underrated by our community. I don't see it in pub matches all that much, and in competitive gameplay with a good clan an Obj 268 is more common then it. Why? The tank has many pros and only some cons which i will list out. Most people don't like it because it doesn't have prammo pen or any turret armor. I can understand why many would choose an Object 140 over this one, but in numerous 1v1's against clanmaes for fun and raging newbs mad at me because I didn't yolo with them my FV has reliably come out on top against the most popular tier X medium. Here are the pros and cons.

PROS:

  • Hesh against lightly armored tanks like Leo's and the rears of tanks
  • Good mobility
  • Good hull armor and glacis armor. Although this is partly negated by the bad turret armor, when scrubs auto aim at this tank the AI puts the target on the upper glacis, meaning you bounce more shots then you would think.
  • Good alpha
  • Aim time is great although maybe it is my crew skills and equipment choices 
  • Accurate 
  • Great gun depression

CONS

  • No turret armor, although it can pull off a miracle bounce
  • No premium penetration, but it can aim at cupolas and weak points 
  • Max speed is 50kph
  • Reload is sluggish 
  • Viewrange is not the best

All in all, this tank is good if you play it right. Don't fight heavies or armored mediums but instead focus on the bottom tier tanks and lightly armored tank destroyers and medium tanks. You should bring one in a tournament if you can spare an Obj 140 to help fight against grille's, Leo's, and FV 183's. You will be surprised by how many tanks have rears which HESH can tear through, and even the sides of some. I understand why some don't like this tank but it certainly has more to offer then what is thought.

What do you think?


Edited by Tomio_Hara, 22 January 2017 - 02:18 AM.

 

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Achuuu___ #2 Posted 21 January 2017 - 09:04 PM

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 I like the 4202, but I rather play my 7/1  :P

Edited by Achuuu___, 21 January 2017 - 09:04 PM.

 

 

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Big_Tidday_Goth_GF #3 Posted 21 January 2017 - 09:06 PM

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I think it's good and way better at fighting in buildings and around obstacles than regular mediums are.  I always say that the hull armor does a lot of good at long ranges because it's a larger target that will be fired at more.  Accuracy is good and reload is good.  The best feature is how it can fire down a hill better than German tanks but it's almost as accurate.

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Mullet_cat #4 Posted 21 January 2017 - 09:13 PM

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I take offence to that 268 reference, there are many tanks worse than it like the... um.. the...? something out there is worse, I know that much (The 268 was my first tier 10 after about a year of grinding and I just cant bring myself to not like it, Its the one tank I want to see buffed more than others so its a bit more competitive)

 

The fv4202 seemed pretty good the one time that I saw it however the driver tried to beat me in my ST1 going hulldown:playing:

 



Player_5773117413 #5 Posted 21 January 2017 - 09:19 PM

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The poor turret armor is my biggest gripe in this thing. It's a massive shortfall from the previous centurions. You'd at least hope it'd have a lot of mobility to make up for it but the 50kph speed limit ruins hope of that as well.

 

Just give us the action X or give it some massive buffs somewhere, this thing is already far from what it was in reality so going furhter wouldn't make a difference.


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3castle_ #6 Posted 21 January 2017 - 09:22 PM

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y u fire HESH at leo's butt? HE works the same... save creds

 

                                                      

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Tomio_Hara #7 Posted 21 January 2017 - 10:08 PM

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View Post3castle_, on 21 January 2017 - 03:22 PM, said:

y u fire HESH at leo's butt? HE works the same... save creds

 

I'm a skrub lol

 

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AOT_Jaeger2 #8 Posted 21 January 2017 - 10:46 PM

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I have to say, the 4202 isn't terrible. The armor is actually OK, the upper glacis is almost as good as that of the E50s. However, unlike the E 50M, the turret is quite weak. Honestly though, it can be tough for Tier 9s when they are stock. I still want to see the Centurion AX though.

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Big_Tidday_Goth_GF #9 Posted 21 January 2017 - 10:53 PM

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View Post3castle_, on 21 January 2017 - 01:22 PM, said:

y u fire HESH at leo's butt? HE works the same... save creds

 

I don't load any of the cheap HE.  It's like choosing more risk and how often does a Leo just sit still and let you do it?  Most of the best opportunities have actually been at the sides of oblivious tanks anyway and they normally don't have the armor they do in the rear

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ufddd #10 Posted 22 January 2017 - 08:51 AM

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The Premium HESH will go though the front glacias of a T62 if it's not angled much and if you get in a position where you're firing downwards to negate the slope you can do the same to an Obj140. Freaks the hell out of them. 

 

I do carry non premium HESH for when I remember to use it but usually I just spam gold. 

 



Tomio_Hara #11 Posted 22 January 2017 - 04:27 PM

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View Postufddd, on 22 January 2017 - 02:51 AM, said:

The Premium HESH will go though the front glacias of a T62 if it's not angled much and if you get in a position where you're firing downwards to negate the slope you can do the same to an Obj140. Freaks the hell out of them. 

 

I do carry non premium HESH for when I remember to use it but usually I just spam gold. 

 

 

I carry about 40-50 APCR, 20-30 HESH and some regular HE for the occasional afk newb. If you play it enough you will know that most tanks have areas where HESH can pen them in the front or sides. As for the regular HE, save it for tanks that are still or if you need to quickly track an enemy.

 

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John_Chang_58 #12 Posted 07 February 2017 - 08:42 PM

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View PostTomio_Hara, on 21 January 2017 - 01:01 PM, said:

I believe that my favorite tier X medium tank, the FV4202, is underrated by our community. I don't see it in pub matches all that much, and in competitive gameplay with a good clan an Obj 268 is more common then it. Why? The tank has many pros and only some cons which i will list out. Most people don't like it because it doesn't have prammo pen or any turret armor. I can understand why many would choose an Object 140 over this one, but in numerous 1v1's against clanmaes for fun and raging newbs mad at me because I didn't yolo with them my FV has reliably come out on top against the most popular tier X medium. Here are the pros and cons.

PROS:

  • Hesh against lightly armored tanks like Leo's and the rears of tanks
  • Good mobility
  • Good hull armor and glacis armor. Although this is partly negated by the bad turret armor, when scrubs auto aim at this tank the AI puts the target on the upper glacis, meaning you bounce more shots then you would think.
  • Good alpha
  • Aim time is great although maybe it is my crew skills and equipment choices 
  • Accurate 
  • Great gun depression

CONS

  • No turret armor, although it can pull off a miracle bounce
  • No premium penetration, but it can aim at cupolas and weak points 
  • Max speed is 50kph
  • Reload is sluggish 
  • Viewrange is not the best

All in all, this tank is good if you play it right. Don't fight heavies or armored mediums but instead focus on the bottom tier tanks and lightly armored tank destroyers and medium tanks. You should bring one in a tournament if you can spare an Obj 140 to help fight against grille's, Leo's, and FV 183's. You will be surprised by how many tanks have rears which HESH can tear through, and even the sides of some. I understand why some don't like this tank but it certainly has more to offer then what is thought.

What do you think?

 

what??????? The view range is one of the best in game

John_Chang_58 #13 Posted 07 February 2017 - 08:45 PM

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I think the FV is a fine tank. That turret gotta be buffed though. Other than that and it's low hitpoint pool, I think it's a great tank. IF It will be replaced, the Centruion AX would be awesome, maybe even the Cheiftan.

John_Chang_58 #14 Posted 07 February 2017 - 08:49 PM

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View PostPlayer_5773117413, on 21 January 2017 - 01:19 PM, said:

The poor turret armor is my biggest gripe in this thing. It's a massive shortfall from the previous centurions. You'd at least hope it'd have a lot of mobility to make up for it but the 50kph speed limit ruins hope of that as well.

 

Just give us the action X or give it some massive buffs somewhere, this thing is already far from what it was in reality so going furhter wouldn't make a difference.

The mobility on a the FV is great, the track traverse is 20 degrees faster than the 140, if I'm correct. Turret traverse is about 10 degrees faster. 50 kph speed isn't too bad either. Now it can keep up with other tier 10 mediums. Before, it was so slow that it had to stay with the heavy tanks. The FVJust needs a turret buff, and it will be nice and dandy.



popisdead #15 Posted 09 March 2017 - 10:13 PM

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After reading this I ground the last 22k XP one night in my Cent 7/1.  If only I could get the last 3 mil credits I need.

 

Granted I would love a Cheiftan.  The Team Yankee models look so nice.

 

I also read elsewhere it is a long range sniper so binocs and camo nets aren't a terrible options for the 4202.  I could be totally wrong since I don't own mine yet.


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PurpleishPotato #16 Posted 15 March 2017 - 01:37 PM

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I agree with you. I haven't reached the 4202 yet, still on Cromwell, but I've read articles and watched videos, and talked to clan mates and they all agreed that the 4202 is not bad at all. The rest of the line is amazing too, when I was still on Cove a lot of people I talked to said that the Crusader sucked. The Crusader is my second best tank of all time, the only tank that I've done better in was the Cruiser IV, which is in the same line. I feel like this line gets a lot of criticism but in battle you can really dominate with any of the tanks in it.

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popisdead #17 Posted 16 March 2017 - 05:02 PM

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It lacks some DPM but I like it.  Once you get used to second line invisible tanks (T20, etc) the FV4202 isn't bad.  

 

So the Chieftan has a 120 MM.  While I guess that invalidates the 183 the 4202 having a higher RoF would sure make it sing.


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I hope this tank will be buffed!
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BioWolfHunter #19 Posted 22 February 2018 - 10:59 PM

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If the FV4202 is played correctly I would consider it to be very over powered. With the new update coming soon, you can get the HESH pen to 231mm of penetration with a 7.5 second reload, or have 220mm of HESH pen with a 7.0 second reload.(with second expensive food consumable, gun rammer, and 100% crew). You can pen an E100 in the side turret, T110E5, and multiple other heavies. You literally tear enemies apart in 1v1 situations if you know where to aim. 500+dmg rolls are devistating, espesially when you hit multiple times. Ide say the only buff it would need would be a turret armor buff.

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