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Big_Tidday_Goth_GF #1 Posted 30 January 2017 - 04:23 PM

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My idea for the French as they would appear in Blitz.

 

Heavy line and TD line - no change from the PC version except maybe to rebalance the tanks slightly.

 

Light/medium line - Progresses from AMX 38 to AMX 40 for Tiers 3 and 4, much like WoT.

Tier V:  Renault G1, a standard medium and a natural progression from the early war designs.

Tier VI:  AMX ELC bis.  With the upcoming changes to the light tanks in World of Tanks, and the reclassification of existing lights to eliminate scout matchmaking, the ELC already is a Tier VI, effectively.  Bringing it to Blitz in the same form as a Tier VI would make the most sense.

Tier VII:  AMX 13 75.  In light of the recent light tank nerfs in Blitz, this is actually the one tank that needs absolutely no modifications to make it Blitz viable in its current form.  Being one of the first of its kind, it has been outclassed by all other Tier VII lights and it would need almost no changing to be equal in Blitz.

Tier VIII:  AMX CDC.  Here is the biggest change.  Seeing as how we have the T6 Dracula which uses the basic CDC design, this one would simply be closer to the PC in terms of performance, and because it wouldn't make sense to introduce a second Tier VIII medium premium that is similar to the FCM which is already offered in that role.  CDC would have slower speed than Dracula but more hit points and a huge size, as it should.

Tiers IX and X are thr AMX 30 and 30B, or basically a backup equivalent to the PTA and Leopard.  This would be consistent with the line up to this point and, more importantly, it would fit into Blitz perfectly.


E 50 M: "Gungnir" T-62A: "Charon" Leopard 1: "Tyrfing" Obj. 140: "Deimos" E 100: "Gram" M48 Patton: "Justice" STB-1: "Muramasa" FV4202: "Narsil" FV 215b: "Anduril"  Grille 15: "Mystletainn" IS-4: "Scamander" IS-7 "Ionia" T110E5: "Eclipse" Maus: "Tarnhelm" Obj. 263: "Aristeia" AMX 50 B: "Durandel" Foch 155: "Joyeuse" M60: "Traveller"


PixelBucket #2 Posted 30 January 2017 - 04:40 PM

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I'm pretty sure WG will just implement the lines as they are on PC, instead of making a premium tank something literally anyone can get their hands on.

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Big_Tidday_Goth_GF #3 Posted 30 January 2017 - 06:47 PM

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I think they know that they [edited] up royally when they made the B-C 25t.  They've been trying to balance it ever since...by introducing more and more autoloaders into the game, but never removing the cancer itself for fear of losing the cells it occupies.  I doubt it will ever come to Blitz because they don't want to harm the game.

 

That's not to say that there aren't viable options in the French tech tree.  I think that they could very well adjust one of the tanks to fit in rather than follow the console directly.  There are better premiums they could cash in on for one thing.  For another, they already tweak the lines to their liking as they have done for both Blitz and console, so it wouldn't surprise me if they did it again.

I have CDC over there anyway and it is a cow - if they want to bring a premium over, the Mutz is better in every possible way.  The way people complain about the FCM (unjustifiably, I think) they would lose their minds if they had a CDC - imagine if Dracula had 60% of the speed, was literally twice as big, and had the exact same gun...but it was a tier higher.  That is the CDC - it's not worth selling and could easily take the tier VIII slot in the regular tech tree.


E 50 M: "Gungnir" T-62A: "Charon" Leopard 1: "Tyrfing" Obj. 140: "Deimos" E 100: "Gram" M48 Patton: "Justice" STB-1: "Muramasa" FV4202: "Narsil" FV 215b: "Anduril"  Grille 15: "Mystletainn" IS-4: "Scamander" IS-7 "Ionia" T110E5: "Eclipse" Maus: "Tarnhelm" Obj. 263: "Aristeia" AMX 50 B: "Durandel" Foch 155: "Joyeuse" M60: "Traveller"


X_5_BlueBlast #4 Posted 26 February 2017 - 04:43 AM

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You do realize that the Tier X Skoda has one of the highest winrates of any tier X in PC, and is superior to the batchat in those terms?

Big_Tidday_Goth_GF #5 Posted 26 February 2017 - 05:24 AM

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View PostX_5_BlueBlast, on 25 February 2017 - 08:43 PM, said:

You do realize that the Tier X Skoda has one of the highest winrates of any tier X in PC, and is superior to the batchat in those terms?

 

That's the point they try to balance something by adding more [edited]

I think it's pretty much the consensus that that tank is the E 25 of PC


E 50 M: "Gungnir" T-62A: "Charon" Leopard 1: "Tyrfing" Obj. 140: "Deimos" E 100: "Gram" M48 Patton: "Justice" STB-1: "Muramasa" FV4202: "Narsil" FV 215b: "Anduril"  Grille 15: "Mystletainn" IS-4: "Scamander" IS-7 "Ionia" T110E5: "Eclipse" Maus: "Tarnhelm" Obj. 263: "Aristeia" AMX 50 B: "Durandel" Foch 155: "Joyeuse" M60: "Traveller"






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