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_War_Child_ #1 Posted 03 February 2017 - 06:47 PM

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I don't mind the fact that Wargaming provides little incentives here and there to increase your likelihood of spending gold/real cash on the game.  The longer that I've played, the more "little things" they split up and make you pay for with either credits or gold - like provisions, etc.  The addition of Boosters is the latest attempt at extracting more gold/cash from the player base [by the way, I've conclusively proved that you should NEVER pay gold for Boosters, ever].

 

There will always be complaints that the game has become more and more "Pay to Play" - which is accurate, but it is a corporation so what did you expect.  I love the game and the people that are dedicated to playing it well, so I don't mind a bit.

 

Now, I can speak from experience that this game has NEVER been "Pay to Win" since I've contributed a substantial sum and have never gotten favorable treatment with either MM or in-game offers (no IS-2 offer, no M60, etc.).  I'm okay with that as well because if the game didn't treat people fairly/equally, then we'd all figure out something else to play.

 

With all of that being said, I think it would be a great idea if you could PAY GOLD and get a Booster that would GUARANTEE YOU AS THE HIGH TIER for however many battles the Booster lasted (Tier X this would be useless obviously).  I can deal with the poopy teams that WG requires every player to get, but it would make it more "fair" if I was the highest tier tank in those battles (like for a PzB2 or Valentine).  Granted, this option would likely increase my 30 day winrate to somewhere in the 90% range, but, more importantly, it would also significantly reduce my anger/angst/rage associated with WG's MM putting me as the only bottom tier in a match with upper tier 30-40% players that are "just having fun" while I'm watching my WR and credits take a huge plummet.

 

As with all my thoughts that I share with you guys, I'm certain I'm not seeing something or there's a material flaw in my thinking here so please feel free to shoot holes in my idea, call me a nooob, whatever.  I appreciate everyone's input and look forward to this discussion.

 

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BorisBaddenov #2 Posted 03 February 2017 - 06:49 PM

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What if everyone used it at once?

 

LOL

 

I think silly idea.

 

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_War_Child_ #3 Posted 03 February 2017 - 06:50 PM

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I don't have a problem with +/-0 matchmaking.  If I am playing Tier 8, I would relish playing only against Tier 8's and I wouldn't mind waiting an extra 30 seconds to have that battle.

 

But when I'm taking on 2 Tier IX tanks and doing well, then my whole team dies behind me and I now have to face 4 or more Tier IX tanks, that's just unfair.  I didn't choose that team, I didn't choose to play against Tier IX's, and I don't think I should be penalized for being a good player (which is clearly what Wargaming's MM considers me when they comprise my teams).


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j0nn0 #4 Posted 03 February 2017 - 06:51 PM

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:popcorn:You'd likely get trolled with the same players, only as 4/7 or worse and the bottom rung of your team.

I may have a few too many tanks. I think I was over 150 in garage by last count.


VonMiller58 #5 Posted 03 February 2017 - 06:57 PM

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+1 for ideas

 

IMO some players would use it constantly....some people shoot all gold ammo and even pay for it with Gold...Money is not a problem for some players and this would be a constant advantage to those with open wallets

 

Platooning is the WR hack, as you know....2 skilled players makes a team most of the time

 

Not a fan of boosters...I used all mine grinding WT to get to Grille...barely made a difference so I will not buy any with gold

 

Games get boring if you win 90%....I have quit many games because they became too easy...I start feeling bad for the losers

 

IMO WG runs this like a casino...ensuring loss streaks to even the best players...which makes win streaks that much sweeter....Withdrawals and Highs...Very much a drug

 

I am also sure there are many holes in my line of thinking.

 

Good day to all...enjoy the X3


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isaols #6 Posted 03 February 2017 - 07:14 PM

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You're already better than 95% of players. If anything you should be handicapped.     :trollface:

Gitgudm9 #7 Posted 03 February 2017 - 07:27 PM

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Hmmm, I don't hate the idea but I don't really like it either. Blitz is just better than other mobile games. I don't know, when I play Blitz I feel like I'm playing a genuine, thought-out PC game. Doing that would feel like an... "undercut", if you get what I mean. I feel like it would undermine the soul of the game.

 

Sorry if that was confusing :P


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4100xpb #8 Posted 03 February 2017 - 07:30 PM

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View Postisaols, on 03 February 2017 - 11:14 AM, said:

You're already better than 95% of players. If anything you should be handicapped.     :trollface:

Now you're talking.  A booster that nerfs WarChild?  #shutupandtakemymoney :girl:

 

 



AkagiTachibana #9 Posted 03 February 2017 - 07:33 PM

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I agree with borris. It would be same tier alot. I think prefmm tanks should be 0/-1. To keep its pref mm ability.
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tankcrunch #10 Posted 03 February 2017 - 07:52 PM

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great idea...



_War_Child_ #11 Posted 03 February 2017 - 10:56 PM

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I don't know.  If I'm playing anything but Tier X, I seem to get an unusually high number of low tier battles with my high tier tanks being extremely poor.  If the Reds are well coordinated, my hoople heads will be eaten up quickly and then I'm faced with multiple higher tier Reds that are likely to overrun me - a truly unwinnable match.  I get extremely tired of the unwinnable situations and it creates a lot of angst for me when the pattern repeats itself for multiple games in a row and there's absolutely nothing I can do about it.  I can carry enough for 3-4, but 6-7 is virtually impossible and I can only pull those off 25%-50% of the time.  If I was same tier, that % would increase to 75% or more.

VonMiller58 #12 Posted 03 February 2017 - 11:31 PM

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View Post_War_Child_, on 03 February 2017 - 10:56 PM, said:

I don't know.  If I'm playing anything but Tier X, I seem to get an unusually high number of low tier battles with my high tier tanks being extremely poor.  If the Reds are well coordinated, my hoople heads will be eaten up quickly and then I'm faced with multiple higher tier Reds that are likely to overrun me - a truly unwinnable match.  I get extremely tired of the unwinnable situations and it creates a lot of angst for me when the pattern repeats itself for multiple games in a row and there's absolutely nothing I can do about it.  I can carry enough for 3-4, but 6-7 is virtually impossible and I can only pull those off 25%-50% of the time.  If I was same tier, that % would increase to 75% or more.

 

Ya I feel that when I play 7 or below...I get the short end of the stick

 

Maybe your 65% wr gives you a shorter end more often... 61.2% here so there may be drop in your teams skill compared to mine...But I do feel like I am low tier consistently in tanks I have played at near unicum level at(most of your tanks)

 

But 8-10 I feel like I am the best guy not in a Platoon most games and I feel very happy with matchmaking in general at those tiers...I cannot carry a full team at those tiers tho...I make too many aggressive mistakes and play too fast/impatiently

 

I just try and learn each game from the top players and enjoy the ride...lost a bunch in the WT in a row yesterday....then I got hot and smoked a bunch of teams...WR is not as important to me anymore

 

I remember a few months back you said your win rate wasn't going anywhere and it was in the 62% area...now you are way up...you kick serious butt out there most the time

 

LOL hoople heads...al swearengen?

 

Enjoy and Hopefully RNGjeezus smiles upon you more often

 

 

 


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Dark_Magician_Girl #13 Posted 03 February 2017 - 11:39 PM

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I like the idea, but then people's stats would be inflated.  I prefer to prove myself while being low tier.

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VonMiller58 #14 Posted 03 February 2017 - 11:42 PM

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(I saw your stats and you are doing the event in 9/10 it appears)

 

Reason is, there is more players at tier 10 at all times IMO especially for these weighted missions

 

I try to use 9s with the tier X guns so at least you can compete firepower wise

 

Its a numbers game..more numbers at 10 and u get sucked in

 

 


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_War_Child_ #15 Posted 04 February 2017 - 02:35 AM

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View PostVonMiller58, on 03 February 2017 - 05:31 PM, said:

 

LOL hoople heads...al swearengen?

 

 

Yes, I vowed to start calling people that instead of my usual "imbecile & moron" comments.  I'm competitive and I care, therefore I rage at times...

 

View PostVonMiller58, on 03 February 2017 - 05:42 PM, said:

(I saw your stats and you are doing the event in 9/10 it appears)

 

Reason is, there is more players at tier 10 at all times IMO especially for these weighted missions

 

I try to use 9s with the tier X guns so at least you can compete firepower wise

 

Its a numbers game..more numbers at 10 and u get sucked in

 

 

 

I'm doing the event at Tier X, but I play my Waff at Tier IX until I win so I can get the Grille.  The rest is all FV205b 183 and E4 - to finish maxing out my Crew Skills and reset missions at the highest point totals.

 

View PostDark_Magician_Girl, on 03 February 2017 - 05:39 PM, said:

I like the idea, but then people's stats would be inflated.  I prefer to prove myself while being low tier.

 

Well, I'd like to freeze my winrate on Thursday before a 3x or 5x weekend, but that ain't happening.

Anthony_Lei #16 Posted 04 February 2017 - 02:48 AM

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bad idea, as this introduced an unfair advantage over a long run...

 

Furthermore, with the +1/-1MM, the performance gap between top and bottom tiers are not huge.... so, I don't think you can win 90% of the games....... remember, this is a skill based game, the drivers make the tank, not the other way round



dimzzy #17 Posted 04 February 2017 - 03:24 AM

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This won't fix anything. Fundamental problem with this game is that playerbase really consists of two groups: competitive players and players that just have fun. These groups hate each other because they have different goals. As long as they are mixed there will be angst and name calling. Tiers do no not matter at all.



Dark_Magician_Girl #18 Posted 04 February 2017 - 03:26 AM

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View Postdimzzy, on 04 February 2017 - 03:24 AM, said:

This won't fix anything. Fundamental problem with this game is that playerbase really consists of two groups: competitive players and players that just have fun. These groups hate each other because they have different goals. As long as they are mixed there will be angst and name calling. Tiers do no not matter at all.

 


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V1n2002 #19 Posted 04 February 2017 - 04:13 AM

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View Postdimzzy, on 04 February 2017 - 03:24 AM, said:

This won't fix anything. Fundamental problem with this game is that playerbase really consists of two groups: competitive players and players that just have fun. These groups hate each other because they have different goals. As long as they are mixed there will be angst and name calling. Tiers do no not matter at all.

 

Tiers 1-3 actually seem competitive, ya know?


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VonMiller58 #20 Posted 04 February 2017 - 04:48 AM

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View Post_War_Child_, on 04 February 2017 - 02:35 AM, said:

 

 

 

I'm doing the event at Tier X, but I play my Waff at Tier IX until I win so I can get the Grille.  The rest is all FV205b 183 and E4 - to finish maxing out my Crew Skills and reset missions at the highest point totals.

 

 

 

Also grinding the WT...can be brutal at times...just was the only 9 in a game and I got cussed out so badly in spanish...Probably good I don't understand the insults

 

I win 60%+ lately in WT, but man If that thing isn't the definition of a hot and cold sniper...usually am low tier more than not...maybe it is that tank?

 


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