So I've been grinding away the T54E1 and finally took the time to investigate for myself the T57 and all the details. There is a HUGE hole in the middle of the turret that assists in an average penetratable surface at over 55% of the current face from 50-70 meters from an E5 shooting AP. The face also subject to big boom damage from a FV 183 at 60-70 meters with AP or HESH.
The current armor profile is not representative of what it was in PC and is a huge issue. Developers saw this issue with the Patton and saw the need to repair the design as a hit skin. This too is needed for the T57.
Here air some current images of shots in a E5 and a FV 183 in a training room. Huge thanks to Poptart Pounder and Kyle the dude for being put this together. This shows some of the weak spots, especially the donut in the middle of the turret where the angle and armor would be the strongest.
FV 183 shooting HESH-
FV 183 shooting AP-
E5 shooting AP-
E5 shooting heat-
My proposal is to make the turret more like it should look at 200mm of sharply angled armor, much like the previous mediums with 200mm of round armor, but at a much steeper angle. Here is what I'd proposed as the armor to look at the E5 and FV 183 once improved.
fV 183 HESH-
Let me know what you think war gaming.
Here is another fact we tested tonight. Bounce factor of the turret for the T57 vs E5 vs AMX vs IS-4 vs E100 vs Maus
the ability to bounce shots as a heavy facing or in a angled position to bounce shots is based off a couple of abilities...
1) Wiggle - E5 IS -4 - face on the weak spots MAY bounce. However a place shot will hit a targeted top weak spot.
2) Angle - E100 & Maus - keeping a 45* angle will bounce shots at 58' and show up red
3) Back n forth movement - AMX - moving back caused a bounce at a 45* angle. This worked with the E5 and IS4 too.
however NONE of the movements to bouce work as well in a T57. The turret needs the BIG DONUT in the middle needs plugged.
Please assess and make changes to this armor flaw. The "cheeks" should be the weak spot with a turret on top should allowed skilled shooters to and kill the T57. The gun is fine, movement is fine, the turret hole needs fixed.
Edited by someguyfromPitt, 22 February 2017 - 07:05 AM.