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Leadf00t #41 Posted 05 March 2017 - 03:56 AM

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View Postfullestnoob, on 04 March 2017 - 09:56 PM, said:

 

Half of my damage was because of him? Really? Let me check again. 

 

0:56 side turret shot on FV215b for 364 damage

1:41 side turret shot on Cent 7/1 for 437 damage

2:29 side turret shot on IS-4 for 325 damage

 

These are all the shots made possible because the 140 distracted the enemies. By "half" you mean 1126 damage? That's 23.5% of the damage I did that game. The 140 was definitely a big help, but to say I should be thanking him for the win and that half of my damage was because of him is just unreasonable. Without me putting out 4.8K damage and keeping the enemies from pushing hill, we would have lost. And if you look closely, I did track the red 140 when he tried to get up hill. 

 

You forgot your first shot, and second shot into the Cent 7/1, but whatever, it's still damage you wouldn't have gotten.  

 

The more important point being, that Obj getting the hill was a critical move that allowed you to get damage in early without taking fire -- the best damage in the game.

 

It gave your team the early advantage in HP and then players.

 

It won the match.

 

You did track him going up.  It was a nice shot.  And thanks for the corrections.

 

View Postfullestnoob, on 04 March 2017 - 09:56 PM, said:

 

Lol are you trying to undermine me and my experience? You really should uninstall the game since you are barely doing 2K damage in tier 10 after having 4 tier 10s. Not trying to accuse you of being a reroll, but since you have 77% winrate in tier 1 compared to my 50% in tier 1, you clearly have previous experience before this account. 

 

As for my tier 10 overall average winrate being a low 61.54% (but climbing :playing:), you can tell I was a pretty bad player in my early career with E3 at 47% and 556 battles, FV4202 at 49% and 947 battles, as well as Obj 268 at 51% and 1164 battles... Not to mention my overall very high battlecount, which makes it difficult to improve winrate. 

 

While you're at it, why don't you bring up our overall winrate? You have 64.47%, but I only have 63.9%. Clearly, you are a better player than me. Am I right? :great:

 

Rerolls these days... smh. 

 

No, I'm not trying to undermine your experience.  I'm simply responding to your swipe at mine. 

 

By the way, I'm not a reroll, just better than you at this level of experience, but thanks for the backhanded compliment.  :)

 

Take care...Lead


Edited by Leadf00t, 05 March 2017 - 04:06 AM.


Steeby141 #42 Posted 05 March 2017 - 04:09 AM

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View PostLeadf00t, on 04 March 2017 - 10:56 PM, said:

 

 

You forgot your first shot, and second shot into the Cent 7/1, but whatever, it's still damage you wouldn't have gotten.  

 

The more important point being, that Obj getting the hill was a critical move that allowed you to get damage in early without taking fire -- the best damage in the game.

 

It gave your team the early advantage in HP and then players.

 

It won the match.

 

You did track him going up.  It was a nice shot.  

 

 

No, I'm not trying to undermine your experience.  I'm simply responding to your swipe at mine. 

 

By the way, I'm not a reroll, but thanks for the compliment.

 

Take care...Lead

 

1) I would have gotten that first shot on 140 regardless, so I don't know what you are smoking. First shot on Cent 7/1 he was looking at my direction, not hill, so the friendly 140 has nothing to to do with it. 

 

2) You did try to undermine me by pointing out my overall average winrate in tier 10 and that you would "uninstall." You being a reroll or not is irrelevant to me. And no it wasn't a compliment. It's sad that a grown man like you can't own your past and had to reroll to make yourself feel better. Too bad you still suck.

 

Btw, don't try to act like nice and mature with your "take care" in the end. 

 

 

 

 

 

 



MajorHarkonnen #43 Posted 05 March 2017 - 04:13 AM

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pot_luck #44 Posted 05 March 2017 - 04:19 AM

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if I'm in a fast tank I might climb the hill, but my heavies stay away.  I like to start at the rock with a heavy and get a few free shots then work my way to town.  The hill does give you pretty good control of the whole field but you better be quicker then your opponents.

Wdh1942 #45 Posted 05 March 2017 - 10:07 AM

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Scenario 
You are in your Dracula platooning with an LTTB but no other fast movers.  The reds have an MT-25 platoon, T21 and a Cromwell.  Assuming those 4 reds go hill should you take it.  Why or why not?  Should the 4 reds go hill?  They will have a 4-2 advantage but Dracula and the LTTB will be waiting on them.  Opinions.

Alucard8732 #46 Posted 05 March 2017 - 03:44 PM

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View PostWdh1942, on 05 March 2017 - 10:07 AM, said:

Scenario 
You are in your Dracula platooning with an LTTB but no other fast movers.  The reds have an MT-25 platoon, T21 and a Cromwell.  Assuming those 4 reds go hill should you take it.  Why or why not?  Should the 4 reds go hill?  They will have a 4-2 advantage but Dracula and the LTTB will be waiting on them.  Opinions.

 

You don't take hill. You post up at bottom amd take shots at them with heavies, then move over to buildings by base for hard cover and shooting at reds on hill or by spawn where tds are. Or if you and other fast mover are ambitious, you get the whole team to flank left through town (right on other spawn)



acrisis #47 Posted 05 March 2017 - 03:50 PM

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You don't have to have the hill to win, but ...

 

Couple meds / lights rush hill with backup from heavies = winning 9:10

 

Works much better and more constantly than any other strategy, especially better than split teams, lighthouse guarding, cap sitting, etc 

Unless you have nothing to get up the hill fast or are outnumbered in lights & meds by red: it still is HILL or LOSE in my book. 


 

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LtRaseiniai #48 Posted 05 March 2017 - 05:39 PM

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I don't get concerned if my team doesn't go hill at all.   It's pretty easy to snipe the hill now from wherever they try to hide up there.   And I never have great games like I used to on the old map when I got the hill.  I'm perfectly happy to not go hill, and I don't feel like the game is in jeopardy at all if we don't get it.

Edited by Indiana__Jones, 05 March 2017 - 05:41 PM.


tankcrunch #49 Posted 05 March 2017 - 06:46 PM

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View PostLeadf00t, on 05 March 2017 - 03:56 AM, said:

 

 

You forgot your first shot, and second shot into the Cent 7/1, but whatever, it's still damage you wouldn't have gotten. 

 

The more important point being, that Obj getting the hill was a critical move that allowed you to get damage in early without taking fire -- the best damage in the game.

 

It gave your team the early advantage in HP and then players.

 

It won the match.

 

You did track him going up.  It was a nice shot.  And thanks for the corrections.

 

 

No, I'm not trying to undermine your experience.  I'm simply responding to your swipe at mine.

 

By the way, I'm not a reroll, just better than you at this level of experience, but thanks for the backhanded compliment.  :)

 

Take care...Lead

 

View Postfullestnoob, on 05 March 2017 - 04:09 AM, said:

 

1) I would have gotten that first shot on 140 regardless, so I don't know what you are smoking. First shot on Cent 7/1 he was looking at my direction, not hill, so the friendly 140 has nothing to to do with it.

 

2) You did try to undermine me by pointing out my overall average winrate in tier 10 and that you would "uninstall." You being a reroll or not is irrelevant to me. And no it wasn't a compliment. It's sad that a grown man like you can't own your past and had to reroll to make yourself feel better. Too bad you still suck.

 

Btw, don't try to act like nice and mature with your "take care" in the end.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

:popcorn:

DanAnsomeHansome #50 Posted 05 March 2017 - 07:04 PM

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The hill is still it.  High ground is key and adds to your armor's effectiveness and your shooting down on armor with a much better angle decreasing their armor's effectiveness. Assuming you have a tank with gun depression.  Speed is only part.  What better 9lace to take an American heavy hull down with gun depression than the Crest of the hill.  

 

The unfair part of mines is one spawn can cover both the hill and base from one spot without relocating while the other cannot. 



Leadf00t #51 Posted 05 March 2017 - 09:16 PM

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View Postfullestnoob, on 04 March 2017 - 11:09 PM, said:

 

1) I would have gotten that first shot on 140 regardless, so I don't know what you are smoking. First shot on Cent 7/1 he was looking at my direction, not hill, so the friendly 140 has nothing to to do with it. 

 

2) You did try to undermine me by pointing out my overall average winrate in tier 10 and that you would "uninstall." You being a reroll or not is irrelevant to me. And no it wasn't a compliment. It's sad that a grown man like you can't own your past and had to reroll to make yourself feel better. Too bad you still suck.

 

Btw, don't try to act like nice and mature with your "take care" in the end. 

 

1. You don't know what would have happened if your Obj had not gone up that hill.  The other Obj might have stopped at shot at you.  One thing's for sure:  The enemy Obj was looking at your Obj that was going up the hill and allowed you to get a free shot at him and gave you a nice opening to get a second shot (which you didn't get).  And yes, the Cent was looking at you for one of those shots, after being distracted by the Obj.  Regardless of if it's 3 shots or 5, those were shots you got because the Obj did the right thing on that map...the think that most directly led to team winning despite your repeated bounced shots.  Seriously, you really could not have chosen a worse example of a round to show the down side of a rush for the hill.  That one was executed almost perfectly, and the move won the match for your team -- you know, that little tidbit you continue to ignore.

 

2.  Again, I wasn't undermining your experience.  I was only responding to your swipe at my skill by responding in-kind.  Don't like it?  Don't start it, sweetheart.

 

For the 2nd time, I'm not a reroll.  I'm just better than you at the same level of experience.  Have no fear, I'll continue to improve and be better than you when I have 10k, 20k, and 35k games too.  What will your excuse be then???

 

Have a nice day...Lead


Edited by Leadf00t, 05 March 2017 - 09:45 PM.


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View PostLeadf00t, on 05 March 2017 - 04:16 PM, said:

For the 2nd time, I'm not a reroll.  I'm just better than you at the same level of experience.  Have no fear, I'll continue to improve and be better than you when I have 10k, 20k, and 35k games too.  What will your excuse be then?

 

LOL your 30-day stats show no improvement at all. You suck and you will always suck. What will your excuse be then, reroll?

 

 

First step to improve: stop clubbing in your A-20 and T-46

 

:popcorn:

 

 


Edited by fullestnoob, 05 March 2017 - 09:32 PM.


Leadf00t #53 Posted 05 March 2017 - 09:37 PM

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Still stuck on my stats, eh?  OK....

 

If I suck, why am I better than you at this level of experience?  Because I'm a reroll?  Except I'm not.

 

Not that it matters, but my 30 day stats don't show even more improvement because I'm playing a lot of Tier X.  And winning more at tier X than your paltry 61% WR too -- ten points better at last check, in fact.  

 

I would also really enjoy watching you play from Singapore for a year with a 200+ ping, as I have.

 

Not that it's material to the topic at hand, which was your poor choice of example to illustrate the downside of rushing the hill on mines.

 

Please try to remain focused.  I know it must be hard when your manhood -- stats in game -- is being called into question.

 

It'll be OK.  Next time stick to the topic and choose a better example rather than wave your e-peen while citing a poor one.

 

Enjoy the rest of your Sunday, Stealy....Leadfoot

 

 


Edited by Leadf00t, 05 March 2017 - 09:56 PM.


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View PostLeadf00t, on 05 March 2017 - 04:37 PM, said:

If I suck, why am I better than you at this level of experience?  Because I'm a reroll?  Except I'm not.

 

Not that it matters, but my 30 day stats don't show improvement because I'm playing a lot of Tier XAnd winning more at tier X than your paltry 61% WR too -- ten points better at last check, in fact.  

 

 

 

Your 30-day tier 10s

 

My 30-day tier 10s

 

You are either lying to my face or you need to get your eyes checked. I actually didn't perform as well as I used to be in the last 30 days, but I still have a much higher winrate, damage ratio, kill/death ratio, and average damage than you. :popcorn:



Leadf00t #55 Posted 05 March 2017 - 10:00 PM

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I'm neither lying to your face nor do I need to get my eyes checked.

 

Here's what I'm referring to, stat boy:

 

http://wotbstars.com...g=eng&showAll=0

 

71.43% > 61.54%

 

Get it yet?

 

 

 


Edited by Leadf00t, 05 March 2017 - 10:02 PM.


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View PostLeadf00t, on 05 March 2017 - 05:00 PM, said:

I'm neither lying to your face nor do I need to get my eyes checked.

 

Here's what I'm referring to, stat boy:

 

http://wotbstars.com...g=eng&showAll=0

 

71.43% > 61.54%

 

Get it yet?

 

 

Honey, that is not 30-day. You are showing me your stats on March 4th and 5th. 

 

Your 71% winrate in M60 doesn't mean you are any good. Take a look at your damage ratio and average damage. Barely 2000 average damage in tier X is pretty terrible along with 1.34 damage ratio. You just got lucky with good teams or a good toon mate that carried you. So before you start acting like you are any good, learn to read your stats first. 

 

Get it yet?



Leadf00t #57 Posted 05 March 2017 - 10:15 PM

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I got it the first time, thanks.

 

My stats show pretty clearly I'm better than you at this level of experience. 

 

Better than you WR average over my last 42 games at Tier X too, which was of course my point.

 

Thanks.


Edited by Leadf00t, 05 March 2017 - 10:18 PM.


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Time to bring up my stats in the past few days like Leadf00t :great:

 

80% winrate, 72% survival rate, 2.56 damage ratio, 5.28 kills/death, 2514 average damage, and 8.62 average tier. 

 

80% winrate in FV215b with 3044 average damage. (80% > 71.43% and 3K dmg > 2K dmg)

78% winrate in AMX 50 120 with 2717 average damage

100% winrate in 112 with 2287 average damage

80% winrate in IS-6 Fearless with 2133 average damage

100% winrate in Comet with 2282 average damage. 

 

Reroll, I average more in tier 7 than you in tier 10 lol

 


I am going WAYYY off topic. I will stop now. :child:



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Good.

 

Care to come back to the topic at hand, so I can own you there as well?



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Hey look over here!

 

I suck.. :)


I don't go town and I won't go down so WarGaming is just ******* with me when they built a town on a hill.

 

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