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WMd76 #1 Posted 09 March 2017 - 05:34 AM

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Ok, so I don't know who made this but it was shared on discord,  I don't know if it was already shared here or not, but if you want please participate, you may say "they said its confirmed to never come back" my retort is: they also said high tier lights would never come in game either, or they'd never sell the fearless, so you never know

 

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https://docs.google....iewform?c=0&w=1


Edited by WMd76, 09 March 2017 - 05:34 AM.

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Dark_Magician_Girl #2 Posted 09 March 2017 - 05:46 AM

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Complain enough and you'll get what you want. I'm actually for +1/-1, but I like people rallying for change.  Do it, man.  


LtBandanov #3 Posted 09 March 2017 - 05:47 AM

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I prefer the current matchmaker as it stands...perhaps with bigger teams I'd be for this.

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Leadf00t #4 Posted 09 March 2017 - 05:47 AM

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I prefer +-1, personally.  Thanks but no thanks.

 

But I'll BTT you anyway.  :)


Edited by Leadf00t, 09 March 2017 - 05:48 AM.


Tanka1949 #5 Posted 09 March 2017 - 05:54 AM

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I for the 1 1

Bronyman50 #6 Posted 09 March 2017 - 05:56 AM

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I remember when +2/-2 was a thing it was annoying in tiers 5 and 6 but tier 7-10 it was fantastic 

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ProdigyWiz #7 Posted 09 March 2017 - 06:37 AM

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I don't see the argument for people who say +2/-2 MM was unfair and hard for tiers 5-6. My Wolverine/Hellcat had a nice time grinding. KV-1 to KV-1S was pretty smooth, much easier than ANY other Tier 5+ grind.

 

The argument that people pull out saying: Unicums/people just want +2/-2 MM to seal club in Tier X, please do shut thy petty mouth up. That's not true, and that will never be true. So don't give out a false argument that you want to believe true.

 

Overall +2/-2 was better. I was able to contribute more TO THE ROLE OF MY TANK as the lowest, middle, and highest tier of the game. I can feel the majority of people during +2/-2 were playing their role: TD support, Heavy brawl/push, Medium flank, 'light like' tanks scout and flank. Carrying the game as a lower tier felt more accomplishing, and was actually the best matchmaking, "sacrificing" (for those who complain the harships of tiers 5-6 grinding) tiers 5-6 stock grinds for a BALANCED Tiers 7-10 games that had VARIETY.  

 

However, needless to say, Wargaming will never implement this as low skilled players will complain, new players will leave, and general decrease in PROFITS; and overall player skill goes down, why use strategy when you can just point, shoot, switch to APCR/HEAT and win? 


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dayton07277 #8 Posted 09 March 2017 - 06:39 AM

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Psychopathy #9 Posted 09 March 2017 - 06:42 AM

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Then ask WG to put +2/-2 mode separately so this way people can enjoy both. Problem solved. It will be fun for my Borsig to shoot at tier 6.

Psychopathy #10 Posted 09 March 2017 - 06:43 AM

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Maybe without hitskin mode too

Edited by Psychopathy, 09 March 2017 - 06:43 AM.


pastore123 #11 Posted 09 March 2017 - 06:52 AM

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I agree. Bring back +2-2

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Player_5773117413 #12 Posted 09 March 2017 - 06:53 AM

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View PostProdigyWiz, on 09 March 2017 - 12:37 AM, said:

I don't see the argument for people who say +2/-2 MM was unfair and hard for tiers 5-6. My Wolverine/Hellcat had a nice time grinding. KV-1 to KV-1S was pretty smooth, much easier than ANY other Tier 5+ grind.

 

 

Back in the early days of blitz, all tiers were -2/+2, except for those which didn't have two above or below. Then, the lower tiers became -1/+1 all the way up to tier 4. Tiers 5 and up didn't get this same treatment. So now Tiers 5 and 6 could see two tiers above them, but only one below. The odds of those tiers being the top tier in battle slimmed down a lot. On top of that, they could face enemies that could easily stomp them (e.g. A competent driver in an is6) but they didn't enjoy that same sort of dominance over lower tier tanks themselves.

 

tiers 5 and 6 benefitted the most from -1/+1, but it's arguable that even tier 8 saw some good stuff come out of this. Heck, only days after the first experiment there were people on the forums saying "effff t10, tier 8 is the place to be rn". Not having to go up against tier 10s in an sta-1 or something certainly makes things easier, but I'd argue that the change was also partly responsible for the T344 American heavy getting powercreeped.


Now @ 15 Tier 10s: E50M, E100, FV215B, FV4202, IS-4, IS-7, JagdPanzer E100, M48 Patton, Obj. 140, Obj. 268, STB-1, T110E3, T110E4, T110E5, T-62A

Just another demo account, nothing to see here

T34/T3(1776) got buffed hard. I paid $$$ for that @&#%£¥ so WG better not realize their mistake and nerf it back to Tier 8

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AkagiTachibana #13 Posted 09 March 2017 - 07:42 AM

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Dont like +1-1???? Get a Arl44.... 105 is amazing
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WipWapJaws #14 Posted 09 March 2017 - 09:58 AM

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Would love to see the old MM back, and while u are at it could we have Global Chat back as well

 



PlusSizeSkinnyJeans #15 Posted 09 March 2017 - 11:01 AM

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The solution to the current Blitz fail lies within the return of -2/+2. And the return of the Original maps.

 


Edited by R0CKET, 15 March 2017 - 11:28 AM.

As productive as that is, I've seen your stats. You aren't even good at predicting the present.

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NateDawg2k16 #16 Posted 09 March 2017 - 11:15 AM

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View PostDark_Magician_Girl, on 09 March 2017 - 01:46 AM, said:

Complain enough and you'll get what you want. I'm actually for +1/-1, but I like people rallying for change.  Do it, man.

 


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little_brother_of_war #17 Posted 09 March 2017 - 11:54 AM

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dan_184_invader #18 Posted 09 March 2017 - 12:01 PM

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stock t-44 vs e-100. Ya that is a no no.

 



ChadRamsey #19 Posted 09 March 2017 - 12:07 PM

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i too prefer +/- 1

 

but good luck



WipWapJaws #20 Posted 09 March 2017 - 12:20 PM

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View PostR0CKET, on 09 March 2017 - 09:01 PM, said:

The solution to the current Blitz fail lies within the return of -2/+2. And the return of the Original maps.

 

 

An idea i have been floating is to put one of the original maps in each patch and rotate it.  like what they did with the reworked mines and dead rail prior to release




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