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obi__wan__shinobi #21 Posted 09 March 2017 - 12:32 PM

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+2/-2 aint coming back.

SpartacusDiablo #22 Posted 09 March 2017 - 12:46 PM

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View PostIndiana__Jones, on 09 March 2017 - 12:32 PM, said:

+2/-2 aint coming back.

But it should.


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little_brother_of_war #23 Posted 09 March 2017 - 12:59 PM

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View PostSpartacusDiablo, on 09 March 2017 - 06:46 AM, said:

But it should.

 

But it won't.


 
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Bronyman50 #24 Posted 09 March 2017 - 01:34 PM

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View Postdan_184_invader, on 09 March 2017 - 07:01 AM, said:

stock t-44 vs e-100. Ya that is a no no.

 

 

that's your fault for not having some free EXP laying around not the games 

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__Crusader6__ #25 Posted 09 March 2017 - 01:41 PM

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What +/-2 did was force people to play their tank in certain roles. 

 

Either you learned that or had zero success.  

 

Second line tanks, mediums flanking and lower tier Meds sometimes reflanking. 


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Blartch #26 Posted 09 March 2017 - 01:43 PM

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On one hand, I'd really like +/-2 back

 

On the other hand, I imagine the T71 and T69 vs. tiers 9 and 10, or the BDR G1 B vs. tier 7.

 

Back on the other hand, [rotate clockwise] the T71 anyway.



Sh4dowSt4lker #27 Posted 09 March 2017 - 02:25 PM

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NO +/-2 matchmaking again. So many tanks that were not very good because of +2/-2 now are outstanding like my lovely panther 2 or the caernarvon.

Also im pretty sure the game started being designed for +-1 so i hope it`s impossible to go back.


Edited by Sh4dowSt4lker, 09 March 2017 - 02:25 PM.


generaldestruction1 #28 Posted 09 March 2017 - 02:31 PM

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The +2/-2 was fine as far as you weren't driving a tank with a lower tier gun. Meds had to act like meds, heavies armour still counted for something especially if you grinded only using ap rounds. Considering the experience level of the average player today it would be plain seal clubbing. Great for the win rates for the preferred mm tier 8 op gold tanks being top tier but has high potential of losing many players to the excessive grind. I have noticed the queue wait time has already increased in the last month. The developer has a lot to consider.

Edited by generaldestruction1, 09 March 2017 - 02:46 PM.


Sturm_69 #29 Posted 09 March 2017 - 02:33 PM

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It.....won't....happen. Move along 

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___ez_e___ #30 Posted 09 March 2017 - 02:34 PM

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I prefer -2/+2 mm as the battles were so much more dynamic and strategic.  

Now half of the battles are about which team can get their bull rush going faster.  That's why the player base skill level is so low as there's not as much incentive to learn the game since everyone is just bull rushing.  


Howitzer_155 #31 Posted 09 March 2017 - 02:43 PM

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-2/+2 master race.  

___ez_e___ #32 Posted 09 March 2017 - 02:51 PM

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I will add there is no better satisfaction then carrying a battle as the -2 tier tank AND players from both your side and enemy team will congratulate you.

When you have an epic game in -1/+1 some players might congratulate you, but again as the -2 you will get your accolades.

You get that stupid grin and there's no better feeling in this game then getting that accomplishment of carrying as the -2 tier tank.   

 

No better feeling.  None. 

 

 

Also, if I could play as the -2 tier tank all day long even against the best super unicums....I'd do it all day long everyday.  I'd learn a lot and have the satisfaction of playing with highly competent and competitive players.  


Edited by ___ez_e___, 09 March 2017 - 02:56 PM.


tankcrunch #33 Posted 09 March 2017 - 03:03 PM

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No.

Sorimka #34 Posted 09 March 2017 - 04:04 PM

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View Post__Crusader6__, on 09 March 2017 - 07:41 AM, said:

What +/-2 did was force people to play their tank in certain roles. 

 

Either you learned that or had zero success.  

 

Second line tanks, mediums flanking and lower tier Meds sometimes reflanking. 

 

I agree with you from a historical perspective.  It *did* force people to play certain roles.  However, there has been SO much balancing towards -/+1 mm now that all hell would break loose if they released the e-100s/etc. into tier 8, etc.etc.etc.

 

I believe -/+1 is here to stay.

 

edit: OH.   How could I forget?  Releasing the hell that is Tier 8 premiums on tier 6??? Umm.... yeah.  about that.


Edited by Sorimka, 09 March 2017 - 04:05 PM.


PlusSizeSkinnyJeans #35 Posted 09 March 2017 - 04:36 PM

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-2/+2 and Original Maps if returned would resolve 90% of the Game issues. 

The Original MM was far more diverse, even and kept the Game interesting. And with far less players on the Server.

Premium Tanks where actually worth getting. Every Premium owner currently is getting less value due to current MM.

The examples of Extreme MM mismatches where few and far between. The T-44 played properly could own a E100 on Original Maps. I know because I sought them out while driving it to sop up the Credits & XP. 

Regarding the Unicums wanting it to Seal Club, zero factor. They are still Seal Clubbing at Tier X and anywhere else. 

Currently all the Tanks are being turned into one version of each type with differing exteriors. 

And the Game is becoming redundant. 

Everyone clearly sees the lack of competitive players loading up to Higher Tiers. This is because they never where challenged to learn Tank application.  They can stumble through games and advance.  Before, Higher Tier Games on Original Maps would punish these players enough for them to go back to lower Tiers. 

Everyone is worried about themselves and their WR. If you enjoy the Game, try seeing Big picture. Everyday the play gets worse and worse because at no point are players challenged to learn the Game to its full extent.

All the special Crew Skills are pointless now. It's a Campfest or Yolanda.

-1:+1 and Flattened Maps is what is going to end up as the Root cause of App failure in the End.

 


Edited by R0CKET, 09 March 2017 - 04:37 PM.

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acrisis #36 Posted 09 March 2017 - 04:39 PM

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+2-2MM is dead.

Better to petition for practical stuff that's beneficial to all players, unicums, veterans, ... down to newbies. 


Edited by acrisis, 09 March 2017 - 04:40 PM.

 

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WMd76 #37 Posted 09 March 2017 - 04:42 PM

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People who dont like +2/-2 either were players who didnt learn the roles of their tank in a -2 game or they just blame 1 tank for all the problems such as the guy tho mentioned stock t44 vs e100, my retort: dont fight the e100 just run and look for people you can actually pen...

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acrisis #38 Posted 09 March 2017 - 04:44 PM

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WG just wants to make it easier for more players, cater to the casual, retain them and make it easier for them to make money. Player retention and satisfaction was higher with 1MM than 2MM ... and so WG chose growth and $$$.

 

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gunslang_iron #39 Posted 09 March 2017 - 04:56 PM

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What if we go pc match making (+3/-3)

acrisis #40 Posted 09 March 2017 - 05:00 PM

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The game would implode.

 

Only veterans and unicums would understand what to do, but you cannot depend on a team at all. Imagine being the -3 and only 55% on your team. ... I wouldn't put up with that. AFKs would be rampant (low tier unfair MM I quit). People would leave the game in droves. 


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