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Indiana__Jones #41 Posted 09 March 2017 - 05:12 PM

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The matchup that defines +2/-2 for me is the Cromwell vs the IS-6.

And before someone comes on here and says how they owned IS-6's in their Cromwells...

Instead, tell  us the stories of the times the Cromwell owned you in your IS-6.  

Bet you don't have one of those..

 



__Crusader6__ #42 Posted 09 March 2017 - 06:00 PM

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My first 5 Comet aces where all tier 9's where I was the lone 7...

 

I know +/-2 will not come back, but it made for a better game all around. 

 

My WR in all tiers (inc X) have gone up in +/-1, mainly because you have worse players who never learn their tank now. 

 

 


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WipWapJaws #43 Posted 09 March 2017 - 06:28 PM

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View PostIndiana__Jones, on 10 March 2017 - 03:12 AM, said:

The matchup that defines +2/-2 for me is the Cromwell vs the IS-6.

And before someone comes on here and says how they owned IS-6's in their Cromwells...

Instead, tell  us the stories of the times the Cromwell owned you in your IS-6.  

Bet you don't have one of those..

 

 

sure I do, if an is6 is isolated it was easy in a Cromwell, just use its speed to stay away from the gun and keep hitting it in the tracks and rear.  If the IS6 was with other tanks I would look for easier targets.

little_brother_of_war #44 Posted 09 March 2017 - 06:35 PM

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Change petition to bring back original (classic) Oasis Palms. 
 
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WMd76 #45 Posted 09 March 2017 - 06:42 PM

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View Postlittle_brother_of_war, on 09 March 2017 - 01:35 PM, said:

Change petition to bring back original (classic) Oasis Palms. 

i wish man, i truely do, that map was better than any map in the game imo


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AirborneJawbreaker #46 Posted 09 March 2017 - 06:53 PM

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oh yeah +2/-2, I remember that.  That was back when the -2s would die in the first 30 seconds and the +2s would only be left to fight it out.  Might as well advocate for teams of 3 or 4 while you're at it.  That's basically what the old set-up was.

WMd76 #47 Posted 09 March 2017 - 07:04 PM

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View PostAirborneJawbreaker, on 09 March 2017 - 01:53 PM, said:

oh yeah +2/-2, I remember that.  That was back when the -2s would die in the first 30 seconds and the +2s would only be left to fight it out.  Might as well advocate for teams of 3 or 4 while you're at it.  That's basically what the old set-up was.

only if you were dumb enough to be aggresisve in a bottom tier tank... here i quote R0CKET, he sums it up perfectly

 

 

"Two things ruined Blitz. 1) Flattening the Maps. 2) Changing MM."

 

and

 

"I believe the balancing issues are being created by trying to tighten up the classes of Tanks.

Eventually you have all of the same Tanks with different shells/skins..

Then you have a boring game.

The Original Maps allowed for diverse Tier matches to be even. The old terrain allowed for full use of Game mechanics, particularly spotting. Low Tier learned to play their roles. 

But most importantly to me. It was fun, challenging and diverse.

Now its just a challenge to not blow a gasket.

Now, its just a HP tradefest. And boring."


Edited by WMd76, 09 March 2017 - 07:05 PM.

My tier 10: IS-7, IS-4 T-62a, Obj140, Obj268, Obj263, E-100, Maus, JgPzE-100, E-50m, Leopard1, M48 Patton, T110E3, T110E4,  T110E5, Fv215b(183), Fv4202                                                    Top Damage Done In Type 59 (6718)! And it was a Fadin's game

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___ez_e___ #48 Posted 09 March 2017 - 07:04 PM

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View PostIndiana__Jones, on 09 March 2017 - 12:12 PM, said:

The matchup that defines +2/-2 for me is the Cromwell vs the IS-6.

And before someone comes on here and says how they owned IS-6's in their Cromwells...

Instead, tell  us the stories of the times the Cromwell owned you in your IS-6.  

Bet you don't have one of those..

 

 

Yeah you're right.   

 

You're just not going to find an experienced player making the mistake of being isolated against a Cromwell.    We would have take proactive measures if we could tell a Cromwell was considering COD.  



AManBunIsADoucheDonut #49 Posted 09 March 2017 - 07:26 PM

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View PostAirborneJawbreaker, on 09 March 2017 - 12:53 PM, said:

oh yeah +2/-2, I remember that.  That was back when the -2s would die in the first 30 seconds and the +2s would only be left to fight it out.  Might as well advocate for teams of 3 or 4 while you're at it.  That's basically what the old set-up was.

How do you remember it?

Your Acct was created after the change to -1/+1.

Why don't you attempt a valid, fact based contribution.


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worf_cmg #50 Posted 09 March 2017 - 07:38 PM

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I'm against the +-2 matchmaking.   Sorry.  I can also assure that it's not a skill issue either.   Yes, we've all had one on one situations where we've shamed larger and more powerful tanks.  However, there is nothing worse than going into a game 2 tiers down when you know you have a dumb team and you have to carry.  Further, there are some tanks where you'd have to use pramo to penetrate even from the rear.

That said, I do wish we had the old maps as well.  I don't mind the new maps so much, I just wish they were in addition to the old.

Airborne_Jawbreaker #51 Posted 09 March 2017 - 08:04 PM

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View PostR0CKET, on 09 March 2017 - 07:26 PM, said:

How do you remember it?

Your Acct was created after the change to -1/+1.

Why don't you attempt a valid, fact based contribution.

 

Fact is you are clueless

Sher9lock #52 Posted 09 March 2017 - 08:05 PM

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+2-2 Nein Danke

PixelBucket #53 Posted 09 March 2017 - 08:21 PM

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I'd rather not face IS-6s and 112s in my Chi-To.

Or face E 75s in a T23E3.


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Chipthed0g #54 Posted 09 March 2017 - 08:24 PM

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I signed the petition and also want it back

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AManBunIsADoucheDonut #55 Posted 09 March 2017 - 08:25 PM

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View PostAirborne_Jawbreaker, on 09 March 2017 - 02:04 PM, said:

 

Fact is you are clueless

 

Lol. Awesome Alt.

Which account are you keeping?

My advice.

Try a 3rd acct.

 

 


Edited by R0CKET, 09 March 2017 - 09:15 PM.

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Airborne_Jawbreaker #56 Posted 09 March 2017 - 08:30 PM

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View PostR0CKET, on 09 March 2017 - 08:25 PM, said:

 

Lol. Awesome Alt.

Which account are you keeping?

 

The latter is from when one of the updates locked us out of our accounts, but was letting us make new accounts.  It was an unintentional reroll, play it on the side using advertisement gold to run it.

Edited by Airborne_Jawbreaker, 09 March 2017 - 08:31 PM.


Mayjaplaya #57 Posted 09 March 2017 - 08:32 PM

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So many people go "herp derp, I can beat +2 heavies with mediums all the time", but what if you switched the tank classes? What the heck can a VK36.01 H do against a T-54 mod. 1? A Tiger II against a 140/T-62A? You're too slow to flank, you have, arguably, and even worse armor profile, and the 140/T-62A have more health and a DPM advantage of something like 70% over the Tiger II. Even if you play smart and stay alive, if the rest of your team are idiots and die, and you're left 1v1 or worse, the medium can just yolo at you, around your cover or whatever, autoaim into center mass, butter your "armor" and outtrade you. Unless the medium is botting, afk, or a disabled player, you'll have no chance.

 

I signed the petition, but I don't really care either way.


Edited by Mayjaplaya, 09 March 2017 - 08:45 PM.

YYK

 

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___ez_e___ #58 Posted 09 March 2017 - 08:36 PM

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View Postworf_cmg, on 09 March 2017 - 02:38 PM, said:

I'm against the +-2 matchmaking. Sorry. I can also assure that it's not a skill issue either. Yes, we've all had one on one situations where we've shamed larger and more powerful tanks. However, there is nothing worse than going into a game 2 tiers down when you know you have a dumb team and you have to carry. Further, there are some tanks where you'd have to use pramo to penetrate even from the rear.

That said, I do wish we had the old maps as well. I don't mind the new maps so much, I just wish they were in addition to the old.

It absolutely is a skill issue.  

 

I can confidently battle as the -2 tier with the mind set that I will carry.   Do you actually carry in those situations?   Absolutely, but obviously it's not easy and doesn't happen as often.  

 

I can actually remember some of my best -2 carry battles, because those battles are hard fought and memorable.  


Edited by ___ez_e___, 09 March 2017 - 08:37 PM.


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View PostWMd76, on 09 March 2017 - 12:34 AM, said:

Ok, so I don't know who made this but it was shared on discord,  I don't know if it was already shared here or not, but if you want please participate, you may say "they said its confirmed to never come back" my retort is: they also said high tier lights would never come in game either, or they'd never sell the fearless, so you never know

 

Petition link:

https://docs.google....iewform?c=0&w=1

 

I'd rather sign a petition to keep -1/+1

 

Sorry



popisdead #60 Posted 09 March 2017 - 09:01 PM

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Just get bent, quit the game and get lost.  

 

+/- made tiers 6 and 8 playable and a bunch of tanks viable.  

 

Drop this issue already.


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