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YourUberDriver #1 Posted 12 March 2017 - 02:34 AM

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I just lost about 7 or 8 battles in a row, and at first I thought it was just some bad luck, but when I checked the teams, everyone in my team, from all the battles have 35%-45% win rates with 100-300 personal ratings, whereas all my enemies had 49%-56% win rates and over 1,000 personal ratings. How is this fair?


EDIT: I'm not saying it's rigged, I legitimately thought it might have had some matchmaking errors or glitches that came with the recent update. Don't get you anal hairs in a knot.

Edited by YourUberDriver, 14 March 2017 - 04:51 AM.

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WipWapJaws #2 Posted 12 March 2017 - 02:38 AM

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It's random so it's what happens.  No one complains when they are on a 8 game winning streak....  "they are just playing well"

KempBushThe3rd #3 Posted 12 March 2017 - 02:40 AM

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Well, to be fair, you have a 46% winrate, so you really shouldn't be complaining about MM. There is nothing broken with MM. We all get the same MM, but we have higher winrates than you because we know how to deal damage and conserve hitpoints.

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_War_Child_ #4 Posted 12 March 2017 - 02:50 AM

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Match making isn't broken.

 

BUT, the parameters that it uses to establish "fair" teams is so screwed up, at least 3 of the Russian engineers have been "retired" in front of firing squads (and 2 others are spending their time in Siberia). 

 

It's best that you not mention MM or you might get a "visit" from Sly or some other American-Russian operative...

 

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YourUberDriver #5 Posted 12 March 2017 - 02:52 AM

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View PostKempBushThe3rd, on 12 March 2017 - 02:40 AM, said:

Well, to be fair, you have a 46% winrate, so you really shouldn't be complaining about MM. There is nothing broken with MM. We all get the same MM, but we have higher winrates than you because we know how to deal damage and conserve hitpoints.

 

And? I know I'm not an excellent player, but it doesn't seem fair to end up in battles where nearly everyone in the enemy team is a warlord and nearly everyone in my own team is an actual "noob". But if it's random like the other guy said, then I guess it really is just bad luck.
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Yami_taku #6 Posted 12 March 2017 - 03:02 AM

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Welcome to the forums. Looks like you've already got the gist of things here; complain about MM and you're good to go.


YourUberDriver #7 Posted 12 March 2017 - 03:09 AM

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View PostYami_taku, on 12 March 2017 - 03:02 AM, said:

Welcome to the forums. Looks like you've already got the gist of things here; complain about MM and you're good to go.

 

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michaeltsoon #8 Posted 12 March 2017 - 03:29 AM

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View PostYourUberDriver, on 11 March 2017 - 10:09 PM, said:

 

gotta vent somehow

The thing here is: Why is matchmaking rigged against you, and you ONLY? While it may be somewhat biased so that super-unis can't win EVERY match (let's be honest that'd be kinda boring too) it definitely treats EVERYONE the EXACT same. So, your reasoning is flawed/invalid. It's not the teams-it's YOU.


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shamokin_bob #9 Posted 12 March 2017 - 03:33 AM

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It's not just you, the game is a sham, it's to make money and that's it,the more you pay the more you get [edited], don't listen to these clowns, mm is [edited] up

michaeltsoon #10 Posted 12 March 2017 - 03:34 AM

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View Postshamokin_bob, on 11 March 2017 - 10:33 PM, said:

It's not just you, the game is a sham, it's to make money and that's it,the more you pay the more you get [edited], don't listen to these clowns, mm is [edited] up

People like this ^^^^ is the reason why chat was removed.... Seriously-why can't these millenials recognize that not everything is others' fault?


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RageKicker #11 Posted 12 March 2017 - 04:18 AM

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played 13 games in a row tonight and won all 13 including a couple with unicum platoons on the red team. Problem is we forget winning streaks like this when we lose 5 in a row. I always try to remember the good win streaks as it helps me get through the bad ones.

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__Nolton__ #12 Posted 12 March 2017 - 04:42 AM

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chasey_boy #13 Posted 12 March 2017 - 05:30 AM

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View PostYourUberDriver, on 12 March 2017 - 02:52 AM, said:

 

And? I know I'm not an excellent player, but it doesn't seem fair to end up in battles where nearly everyone in the enemy team is a warlord and nearly everyone in my own team is an actual "noob". But if it's random like the other guy said, then I guess it really is just bad luck.

 

Everyone gets the same exact mm. Some just learn to deal with it better than others. 

_GeneralPearson #14 Posted 12 March 2017 - 05:34 AM

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View Postmichaeltsoon, on 12 March 2017 - 03:34 AM, said:

People like this ^^^^ is the reason why chat was removed.... Seriously-why can't these millenials recognize that not everything is others' fault?

Autism, that's why 



YourUberDriver #15 Posted 13 March 2017 - 05:43 AM

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View Postmichaeltsoon, on 12 March 2017 - 03:29 AM, said:

The thing here is: Why is matchmaking rigged against you, and you ONLY? While it may be somewhat biased so that super-unis can't win EVERY match (let's be honest that'd be kinda boring too) it definitely treats EVERYONE the EXACT same. So, your reasoning is flawed/invalid. It's not the teams-it's YOU.

 

Can you tell me when or where I ever said it's biased against me? I understand that small mistakes can lead to a loss and that the battles are random, but these loss streaks are so consistent in tiers 3-5. My only win streaks are from tier 6-8 battles. I wasn't looking for an argument, I just asked a question, but I understand if you're tired of this question since now I see it's been asked time and time again.
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dan_184_invader #16 Posted 13 March 2017 - 11:26 AM

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View Postshamokin_bob, on 12 March 2017 - 03:33 AM, said:

It's not just you, the game is a sham, it's to make money and that's it,the more you pay the more you get [edited], don't listen to these clowns, mm is [edited] up

 

STFU . People like you are the people who ruin the forums and the game. Put it this way. I had to quit bc of all the rants and etc bc it got to damn disgusting. This is also why WG removed chat. 

 

To the question, MM is not rigged it's all random. It may seem unfair at times but that is just luck. Even statistical mm won't have a great effect. Some times I can do terrible and do like 200 dmg or sometimes I can do like 3k in my vk2801. It is not rigged tho. 


Edited by dan_184_invader, 13 March 2017 - 11:31 AM.


ShadowReaper1151 #17 Posted 13 March 2017 - 11:50 AM

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I notice certain characteristics about the game. Buy a new tank and the outcome is favorable for say 5-10 matches. Then things change. It should be several losses. Instead. New tank, 75% crew training, not upgraded 100% ect. It happens with every new tank I get, premium, or otherwise. Now I not saying that my player name was typed in and I was put into one of 20 mm categories depending how much wargaming likes my Facebook page, but I am saying I believe there are certain algorithms inbeded in the mm. They're are also the fact that people with a high wr also platoon together, which can throw the mm balance off i believe. Players also do things like synchronize time and in a group press the battle button at the same time to increase the chances of ending up in the same match with their comrades. Life isn't fair. There is only 1, I say 1 way get a100% win rate. That is to enjoy every match win lose or draw. That's the only way to win, or it's just a random stress generater.



SpartacusDiablo #18 Posted 13 March 2017 - 12:27 PM

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It's all about percentages. I currently have a 57% winrate. According to wotbstars this puts me above 90% of the players on the NA server. So if there are 14 players in a match the chances lean heavily towards one team getting a decent player while the other does not. God forbid if I've platooned up with another good player.  It's not rigged it's just that there are simply not enough good players to go around.

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BobboEvans #19 Posted 13 March 2017 - 03:24 PM

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View PostYourUberDriver, on 13 March 2017 - 05:43 AM, said:

 

Can you tell me when or where I ever said it's biased against me? I understand that small mistakes can lead to a loss and that the battles are random, but these loss streaks are so consistent in tiers 3-5. My only win streaks are from tier 6-8 battles. I wasn't looking for an argument, I just asked a question, but I understand if you're tired of this question since now I see it's been asked time and time again.

First, MM will put you high tier for your 1st few games in a new tank.  Second, if someone has a better win rate, that means you can have a better win rate if you get better because we all see the same MM.  Focus on getting better. MM is MM with whatever algorithm WG feels is appropriate.  


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YourUberDriver #20 Posted 14 March 2017 - 04:48 AM

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View Postdan_184_invader, on 13 March 2017 - 11:26 AM, said:

 

STFU . People like you are the people who ruin the forums and the game. Put it this way. I had to quit bc of all the rants and etc bc it got to damn disgusting. This is also why WG removed chat. 

 

To the question, MM is not rigged it's all random. It may seem unfair at times but that is just luck. Even statistical mm won't have a great effect. Some times I can do terrible and do like 200 dmg or sometimes I can do like 3k in my vk2801. It is not rigged tho. 

For the last time, I never said it's rigged. I just thought it had a few matchmaking errors because of the new update, sheesh!


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