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Dark_Magician_Girl #1 Posted 20 March 2017 - 02:41 AM

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I just finished a CW battle where we lost 2-1, with the other side using 3 M60's.  I can't help but wonder if the match would have had a different outcome if all our players had access to 330 HEAT pen.  Maybe I'd be going through the front a charging IS7 with ease too.

 

Everyone who has an M60 runs it because of the pen.  That's an unfair playing field putting an un-nerfed gift tank that nobody paid for in the hands of a few and not letting everyone have access to it.  Either balance it or make it available to everyone.  The thing is literally the new obj 140.  WG didn't change the big picture of medium tank balance: a standout tank still exists (Obj.140 --> M60), but now only a select group of players have access to it.

 

The ending picture is more imbalanced than it was before.



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tweek_1 #3 Posted 20 March 2017 - 02:45 AM

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Quit whining about the m60 for cripes sake.

Posit1ve_ #4 Posted 20 March 2017 - 02:45 AM

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American loyalty bias rules!!!

 

M60 is awesome because now not only is it rare, but it's also clearly the best med tank in the game! And even better, the players who own it are overwhelmingly potatoes!! (Check the average stats in it on Blitzstars and/or wotbstars; 1373 average damage and 46% wr according to Blitzstars) If WG does their balance based on the average stats like they do for other tanks, they'll NEVER nerf the M60!

 

Meanwhile I'll just feast on the salt of those who aren't #loyalenough in my M60. I'm just waiting for my loyalty VK 72.01K now!

 

I'd also like to add that it's also OP because it's one of the few remaining meds with good turret armor too since all the Soviets are butter vs. HEAT now!


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DagvaldRiddik #5 Posted 20 March 2017 - 02:47 AM

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ThemasterTanker1 #6 Posted 20 March 2017 - 02:51 AM

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Darkest_Flame #7 Posted 20 March 2017 - 02:53 AM

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All she's trying to say is that it shouldn't be allowed in competitive play that is run by members of the community (**hint hint**).

 

I didn't play that CW game, and my opinion isn't biased because I'm in the same clan. I just really do agree with the statement. I couldn't give less of a damn if they didn't nerf the M60, because it doesn't affect my pub play. But for CW, I believe it'd make things more fair if they limited the tanks used to not include the M60, seeing as how people didn't earn it, they got lucky and had it dropped off in their garage. Imagine if one team had 3 M60's and your team had none, as this situation makes an example of. That would be completely unfair to the guys that don't have the M60. 

 

To make things more fair, I'd like to suggest that the M60 be banned from future clan wars. If they could ban it from here on out that would be 100% epic, but it is probably unrealistic.

 

I think I'll post my thoughts on the CW Discord server. They're bound to take it into contemplation. 



RoadKutter #8 Posted 20 March 2017 - 02:53 AM

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Lol, m60 ftw and I thought only sub par nubs got the tank. So how did you lose to a bunch of unachieving m60 drivers?

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RagingHESHedPotato #9 Posted 20 March 2017 - 02:54 AM

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RagingHESHedPotato #10 Posted 20 March 2017 - 02:54 AM

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You sound like that troll about the is6 fearless. Just LET IT GO!

Panbun #11 Posted 20 March 2017 - 02:56 AM

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I don't think it should be nerfed, nor should it be made available to everyone. Just limit or restrict it from competitive matches.

MarBearCat #12 Posted 20 March 2017 - 02:57 AM

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View PostDark_Magician_Girl, on 19 March 2017 - 09:41 PM, said:

I just finished a CW battle where we lost 2-1, with the other side using 3 M60's.  I can't help but wonder if the match would have had a different outcome if all our players had access to 330 HEAT pen.  Maybe I'd be going through the front a charging IS7 with ease too.

 

Everyone who has an M60 runs it because of the pen.  That's an unfair playing field putting an un-nerfed gift tank that nobody paid for in the hands of a few and not letting everyone have access to it.  Either balance it or make it available to everyone.  The thing is literally the new obj 140.  WG didn't change the big picture of medium tank balance: a standout tank still exists (Obj.140 --> M60), but now only a select group of players have access to it.

 

The ending picture is more imbalanced than it was before.

 

I agree with you. The superior pen does nothing for me, but I agree

MarBearCat #13 Posted 20 March 2017 - 03:00 AM

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View Postpanzermk6, on 19 March 2017 - 09:45 PM, said:

American loyalty bias rules!!!

 

M60 is awesome because now not only is it rare, but it's also clearly the best med tank in the game! And even better, the players who own it are overwhelmingly potatoes!! (Check the average stats in it on Blitzstars and/or wotbstars) If WG does their balance based on the average stats like they do for other tanks, they'll NEVER nerf the M60!

 

Meanwhile I'll just feast on the salt of those who aren't #loyalenough in my M60. I'm just waiting for my loyalty VK 72.01K now!

 

I'd also like to add that it's also OP because it's one of the few remaining meds with good turret armor too since all the Soviets are butter vs. HEAT now!

 

If the M60 gets nerfed, I'll no longer use it. I can't win with it now so why saddle my team with a super nerfed medium being

driven by a super nerfed cat?



_Brianna141 #14 Posted 20 March 2017 - 03:01 AM

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Saltttttttttttttttttttt

 

i have seen multiple people whining about m60 after facing us( pretty sure our entire tourney team have one except panda :P)

 

after all, I don't think it's a big deal but to tell em, git gud m9

 

all m60 gets is pen advantage and you can do the work with every other medium if u carefully aim.

 

also it's not a free tank, in fact probably most expensive tank. If they nerf or remove it they will be in bigger trouble

 

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_stealy #16 Posted 20 March 2017 - 03:03 AM

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View Post_LookinGrim, on 19 March 2017 - 10:01 PM, said:

Saltttttttttttttttttttt

 

i have seen multiple people whining about m60 after facing us( pretty sure our entire tourney team have one except panda :P)

 

after all, I don't think it's a big deal but to tell em, git gud m9

 

all m60 gets is pen advantage and you can do the work with every other medium if u carefully aim.

 

also it's not a free tank, in fact probably most expensive tank. If they nerf or remove it they will be in bigger trouble

 

-Brian, a proud #2 ranked m60 owner

 

n00b y no #1? 

BigPoppaBender #17 Posted 20 March 2017 - 03:04 AM

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Restrict the m60 from CW and other competitive games because of its superior pen and being used a lot? So  should they restrict  the is7 because of its superior armor over other heavy tanks and it's mass usage as well? You can't just restrict a tank for its value because that means you'd have to restrict other tanks that are also the same or higher value use.



LoweExpectations #18 Posted 20 March 2017 - 03:05 AM

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She does have one point, and that is regarding the STB-1.

http://tank-compare.blitzstars.com

The M60 has an overpowered gun, a very strong turret, American tracks and the same mobility. All the STB has for an advantage is hull armor, which isn't even that great, and camouflage. The M60 pretty much negates the point of the STB.


 

 

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View PostBigPoppaBender, on 19 March 2017 - 09:04 PM, said:

Restrict the m60 from CW and other competitive games because of its superior pen and being used a lot? So  should they restrict  the is7 because of its superior armor over other heavy tanks and it's mass usage as well? You can't just restrict a tank for its value because that means you'd have to restrict other tanks that are also the same or higher value use.

 

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View PostPanbun, on 19 March 2017 - 07:56 PM, said:

I don't think it should be nerfed, nor should it be made available to everyone. Just limit or restrict it from competitive matches.

 

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