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Cromwell Berlin Imbalances Competitive Blitz, Needs Rebalancing

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unicoizulu #21 Posted 20 March 2017 - 09:14 AM

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I think the Bromwell was a reasonable price. Anyone remember the price.

Wish Wargaming would do more camo like the Berlin.



Mall_ninja42 #22 Posted 20 March 2017 - 09:17 AM

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View PostMSixteen, on 20 March 2017 - 08:54 AM, said:

 

We get it. You're salty. Now go to sleep, child.

No, I'm going to sit here in my mom's basement eating chicken nuggets to replenish my salt content and keep it flowing. 


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slowmocean #23 Posted 20 March 2017 - 09:57 AM

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LOL Great post Stealy

      

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_CH3F #24 Posted 20 March 2017 - 10:04 AM

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7 kv2's would settle that in no time at all!

Gladsfur #25 Posted 20 March 2017 - 10:37 AM

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This game is like life. It's not fair. Wipe your tears, and get over it. Yes I'm a proud owner of a M60 and the loyalty camo. Good point STEALY. 

Edited by Gladsfur, 20 March 2017 - 10:41 AM.


lookedsquirrel7 #26 Posted 20 March 2017 - 11:06 AM

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Everyone knows the new Meta for Clan Wars 3 is bringing 7 Togs.



Davedt #27 Posted 20 March 2017 - 12:16 PM

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see M60 post :popcorn:

1966MustangFastBack #28 Posted 20 March 2017 - 12:20 PM

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As long as it doesn't get needed then sure. #DontNerfMyBromwell

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Grayghost2000 #29 Posted 20 March 2017 - 12:48 PM

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View PostLoweExpectations, on 20 March 2017 - 04:06 AM, said:

Well, the Cromwell Berlin was available to everyone. If you snooze, you lose. The M60 was given out randomly, so it gave people the advantage and others the disadvantage without their choice.

 

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ProdigyWiz #30 Posted 20 March 2017 - 12:55 PM

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I prefer the Cromwell over the berlin. Bromwell has the worst gun bloom, accuracy, and dispersion. Idk what it is, the cromwell gets more shots in.
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TengenToppaPotatoLagann #31 Posted 20 March 2017 - 01:04 PM

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Valid points in both threads. I'd just like to mention that during one particular blitz brawl, after facing an all Russian lineup with their own mix of loyalty Patton's and various other tanks... C4 ran seven IS-7s and just rammed that stalinium down the red teams throat.

 

The m60 probably wasn't nerfed, as WG didn't know right away how the pen nerfs would play out. If they keep the low pen for more than a few patches I would say nerf the m60.  If they give a few tanks higher pen again, leave it. 

 

Either way, while it's obviously a very strong tank, there are always other choices a team can make, strat wise.

Tier six is easy, there are a bunch of tanks that can be as imbalanced as the brommy. Flat panzer at the back would be annoying as hell if the driver had lvl6 camo, paint, and a net. Nobody has even mentioned how unfair it is that some people have every crew skill maxed.

 

Idk enough about competitive play in blitz to be setting strategy for top clans, that much I do know, so feel free to ignore what I've said.


Edited by TengenToppaPotatoLagann, 20 March 2017 - 01:12 PM.

draw me like one of your french tanks

 


__Boomer2__ #32 Posted 20 March 2017 - 01:34 PM

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Keep crying.  I don't fear a Bromwell anymore than I fear a Cromwell.

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BoomMfer #33 Posted 20 March 2017 - 02:15 PM

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Seems to me that premium tanks shouldn't be allowed in tournament play. Why should someone who has money, or in the case of the M60 luck, have an advantage over other participants.


Never_Forget_ #34 Posted 20 March 2017 - 03:44 PM

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 You can't ban premiums (except the m60 which wasn't available to all). Some players only have premiums in their garage at tiers 2-8. 

 



pastore123 #35 Posted 20 March 2017 - 04:05 PM

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I'm so surprised to see serious answers here

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woof_defender #36 Posted 20 March 2017 - 04:11 PM

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why not just ban premiums from clan wars and tournaments for all tiers.

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View PostDerf19, on 19 March 2017 - 09:08 PM, said:

Ban the Fearless too! Not everyone has access to it.

 

I saw my first Fearless in a battle the other day. I focused it just because.

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View Postr4zrbl4de, on 19 March 2017 - 09:18 PM, said:

This is the reason why I'm starting to hate this game. No one on the forums can seem to hold a reasonable discussion without resorting to insults and mockery. Everyone's dug their own little hole of an opinion and won't leave it, they just want to sling mud at each other.

 

This place has stopped being a hub for people who enjoy playing a game. This is what I'd want to bring back most from the early year of Blitz - not old maps, not pre-nerfed tanks, but a friendly environment.

 

This is a little off-topic, but for the most part, I agree. LookedSquirrel7 ruined my green team in game the other day, and I didn't launch myself into the forums to complain, or pick a fight, or throw salt, because I deliberately keep the two things separate. Well, except for that giggly fanboi thing that I do when I see a forum player, try too hard, and ammorack myself. But that's just how I roll, baby.

 

I don't know if it's useful to imagine an idyllic time when players danced their tanks through fields of daisies and sang upbeat disco while they were shooting flowers and unicorn dust at one another, and then came to the forums to cover one another with effusive praise. I think ragers have always raged, noobs have always noobed, and carriers carried. The only thing I'll say for certain is that players have always played. Here on the forums, snarky people have always snarked, constructive people have always constructed, mocking people have always mocked, and posters have always posted.

 

All of these problems remind me of an old story about an aging couple. The man felt that he needed to stay youthful for his wife, so every morning he plucked out some of his gray hairs. His wife wanted him to look older so they could grow old together, so every night she plucked out some of his dark hairs. It didn't take long before he was completely bald.

 

We can play whack-a-mole all we want to get rid of what we don't like, but that's not the right approach. That's the problem with the chat ban and contention on the forums. If we ban enough people, or ostracize enough people, eventually we'll be wondering where everyone went.



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View PostWriterDude, on 20 March 2017 - 04:38 PM, said:

 

This is a little off-topic, but for the most part, I agree. LookedSquirrel7 ruined my green team in game the other day, and I didn't launch myself into the forums to complain, or pick a fight, or throw salt, because I deliberately keep the two things separate. Well, except for that giggly fanboi thing that I do when I see a forum player, try too hard, and ammorack myself. But that's just how I roll, baby.

 

I don't know if it's useful to imagine an idyllic time when players danced their tanks through fields of daisies and sang upbeat disco while they were shooting flowers and unicorn dust at one another, and then came to the forums to cover one another with effusive praise. I think ragers have always raged, noobs have always noobed, and carriers carried. The only thing I'll say for certain is that players have always played. Here on the forums, snarky people have always snarked, constructive people have always constructed, mocking people have always mocked, and posters have always posted.

 

All of these problems remind me of an old story about an aging couple. The man felt that he needed to stay youthful for his wife, so every morning he plucked out some of his gray hairs. His wife wanted him to look older so they could grow old together, so every night she plucked out some of his dark hairs. It didn't take long before he was completely bald.

 

We can play whack-a-mole all we want to get rid of what we don't like, but that's not the right approach. That's the problem with the chat ban and contention on the forums. If we ban enough people, or ostracize enough people, eventually we'll be wondering where everyone went.

 

Good stuff!

Leadf00t #40 Posted 20 March 2017 - 06:11 PM

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View PostWriterDude, on 20 March 2017 - 11:38 AM, said:

 

I don't know if it's useful to imagine an idyllic time when players danced their tanks through fields of daisies and sang upbeat disco while they were shooting flowers and unicorn dust at one another, and then came to the forums to cover one another with effusive praise.

 

This sentence deserves induction into the WoTB hall of fame right next to the less effusive "Eat my dust, snail thumbs!"

 

Strong work, WD.  Very strong.

 

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