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Defaultz #41 Posted 21 March 2017 - 01:22 AM

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View PostDirk_The_Dragon_Slayer, on 20 March 2017 - 09:10 PM, said:

 

The gun good.  I'm not sure what you think is bad about it.

 

I'm not sure what you think is good about it. Poor penetration, troll accuracy, poor dpm, and low ammo count so you can't even fire apcr too liberally. i'd trade some of the armor for a better gun any day. 

ZoneZ72 #42 Posted 21 March 2017 - 01:27 AM

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View Poste___18989, on 20 March 2017 - 11:29 PM, said:

It is a fantastic tank! I think of it as a medium version of the IS-6. Good armor, ok gun, ok mobility, strong turret and great credits. It's pretty hard to beat! 

not true, most tier 8 TD/Heavy can pen it with ease, and thats why i dont like it. You cant use hull down effectively. In case of the PZ.4 S, it may have a weak hull (especially the sides), but the turret is great in its tier and the depression will allow it to do a lot of hull down. So I think the mod 1 is more kind of leading the push and on the move. but that mobility though...



e___18989 #43 Posted 21 March 2017 - 03:19 AM

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View PostZoneZ72, on 20 March 2017 - 07:27 PM, said:

not true, most tier 8 TD/Heavy can pen it with ease, and thats why i dont like it. You cant use hull down effectively. In case of the PZ.4 S, it may have a weak hull (especially the sides), but the turret is great in its tier and the depression will allow it to do a lot of hull down. So I think the mod 1 is more kind of leading the push and on the move. but that mobility though...

 

The turret is not unpennable. But it is indeed still a strong turret. Even if someone loads pramo all you have to do is move back and fourth while hull down and you will get LOTS of bounces on the turret. You should never rely on this tho-just do it when you need to. Relying on bouncing shots is generally not a good strategy with any tank. You will get penned from time to time but you will bounce a lot. I'm number 19 on the server with it and that's how I play it. Take it for what it's worth. Btw.. there are MANY spots on maps where you can go hull down in a non gun depression tank including this one. 

 

The strong turret is also one of the reasons why it is such a good face hugger. That upper plate and turret is a great combo. Not a perfect turret but still strong. 


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View PostScumbagJuJu, on 20 March 2017 - 07:18 PM, said:

It's the most OP tier 8 medium in the game.

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Nice review, War_Child.  You used a lot more APCR than I do, in situations where I wouldn't have, but you have this tank sorted out better than I do.  I'm really struggling with producing an acceptable damage level.

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View PostPA60Pilot, on 21 March 2017 - 06:07 AM, said:

Nice review, War_Child.  You used a lot more APCR than I do, in situations where I wouldn't have, but you have this tank sorted out better than I do.  I'm really struggling with producing an acceptable damage level.

 

I'm an APCR'aholic.  I overshoot prammo in most of my games - out of caution.  I would have made some serious bank in that game had I not used all 14 APCR rounds. 

1stooge #48 Posted 21 March 2017 - 12:55 PM

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I have this tank and it's called t54 mode 1? Is this the same tank being sold or is it a variation . Mine is not called 1st proto type ?

 

 

 



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View Post9nr, on 21 March 2017 - 04:55 AM, said:

I have this tank and it's called t54 mode 1? Is this the same tank being sold or is it a variation . Mine is not called 1st proto type ?

 

 

 

 

They are the same tank.

 

T-54 Type/mode 1 Prototype


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BorisBaddenov #50 Posted 21 March 2017 - 01:40 PM

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Dirk_The_Dragon_Slayer #51 Posted 21 March 2017 - 02:10 PM

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View PostDefaultz, on 20 March 2017 - 08:22 PM, said:

 

I'm not sure what you think is good about it. Poor penetration, troll accuracy, poor dpm, and low ammo count so you can't even fire apcr too liberally. i'd trade some of the armor for a better gun any day. 

 

It has a similar, if not the same, numbers as the T44.  It also compares with other mediums at 8.  

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I have both the Proto and the Type 59 and I stink in both. :great:

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View PostDirk_The_Dragon_Slayer, on 21 March 2017 - 09:10 AM, said:

 

It has a similar, if not the same, numbers as the T44.  It also compares with other mediums at 8.  

 

I don't have the T-44 but I'm sure if I did, I would stink in it as well.





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