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Why have you not ground the Obj 263 line?/Why do you think others haven't?

  1. Because it looks huge and unwieldy. (4 votes [5.63%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 5.63%

  2. Because I can't stand turret-less tanks. (9 votes [12.68%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 12.68%

  3. Because I like TDs with high pen and high alpha guns, its DPM doesn't tempt me. (7 votes [9.86%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 9.86%

  4. Because I find it easy to kill them. (3 votes [4.23%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 4.23%

  5. Because its armor profile doesn't seem to cut it/I like reliable German style armor vs troll armor. (3 votes [4.23%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 4.23%

  6. The Obj 263 looks good, but the tier 7-9 ones are trash. (12 votes [16.90%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 16.90%

  7. The tier 7-9 ones look good, but the Obj 263 looks like trash. (1 vote [1.41%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 1.41%

  8. I might grind it eventually, but there are other lines I'm grinding first. (5 votes [7.04%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 7.04%

  9. I don't really see/hear much about the line, so I'm grinding lines I know more about. (6 votes [8.45%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 8.45%

  10. I never really thought much about the line... (6 votes [8.45%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 8.45%

  11. Someone I trust said it was bad. (3 votes [4.23%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 4.23%

  12. Ain't nobody got time for dat! (7 votes [9.86%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 9.86%

  13. Driving Stronk Communist tanks is for sissies, real men drive German tanks. (5 votes [7.04%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 7.04%

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Wboys #1 Posted 21 March 2017 - 06:50 PM

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   I've noticed that the Obj 263 line as a whole, and the Obj 263 in particular, are pretty rare tanks to spot on the battlefield. In fact, the Obj 263 is probable the rarest tier X to see. My hunch is backed up by WoTB Stars, which says the Obj 263 has a meager 850~ ranked players. In contrast, the Maus, probably the second rarest tier X, has 1,600~ ranked players. 

 

   Why is this line so unpopular? It starts from the SU-100, a great tank that many people already own that makes the line a relatively quick grind. Then you get the fairly OP SU-100M1 that still has the old T-54's broken HEAT pen...except at tier 7. The SU-101 is fairly meh, but the SU-122-54 is great fun. Then it ends with the glorious YOLO Wagon. 

 

   Lots of people ground up the STB-1 line, and most people think practically every tank in that line is total trash until the STB-1, which was never exactly a totally OP tier X. 

 

I created this thread to try and get to the bottom of this enigma, once and for all! My theory?

 

please vote first.

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Edited by Wboys, 21 March 2017 - 07:03 PM.

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MayoNasalSpray #2 Posted 21 March 2017 - 06:53 PM

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The reason I know isn't on there.

 

SU-101, Everyone is fine with the others but this is the kicker, also why I wrote a guide on it.

 

Some how my guide got put in "German Tanks" :confused:

 

http://forum.wotblit...__fromsearch__1


Edited by lookedsquirrel7, 21 March 2017 - 06:56 PM.


NICKEL_AND_DIME #3 Posted 21 March 2017 - 06:56 PM

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I got the 122-54 and skipped the rest.

Basically I decided if I want to deal with Russian accuracy in those tiers, I at least want a turret to go with it, as the dispersion of these at the sides of their gun arc has worse accuracy than a 3-year-old throwing rocks at the side of a barn from 50 yards away.



Wboys #4 Posted 21 March 2017 - 06:57 PM

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View Postlookedsquirrel7, on 21 March 2017 - 12:53 PM, said:

The reason I know isn't on there.

 

SU-101, Everyone is fine with the others but this is the kicker, also why I wrote a guide on it.

 

Some how my guide got put in "German Tanks" :confused:

 

Well yeah SU-101 isn't great. Is it as bad as the STA and Type 61 though? What about the Panther II? Lots of people have those tanks. The Jap line especially people love to do nothing but hate on (I actually enjoyed the line) but there are a good amount of STB-1s out there.

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View PostNICKEL_AND_DIME, on 21 March 2017 - 12:56 PM, said:

I got the 122-54 and skipped the rest.

Basically I decided if I want to deal with Russian accuracy in those tiers, I at least want a turret to go with it, as the dispersion of these at the sides of their gun arc has worse accuracy than a 3-year-old throwing rocks at the side of a barn from 50 yards away.

 

The only one with bad accuracy is the SU-101. All the others are fine. The SU-100M1 is downright OP.

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View PostWboys, on 21 March 2017 - 01:58 PM, said:

 

The only one with bad accuracy is the SU-101. All the others are fine. The SU-100M1 is downright OP.

Skipped the 101, had a blast in the 100m1 and the 122-54. 263 was a bit rough at first, but I'm pretty fond of it these days. 

 

I was a fan of the 122-44 when it came to blitz, so I already had a preference for the tdium play style over the big alpha derps that always seemed to troll me more than the reds... I suppose more people just want to see big numbers. (I drive my 183 when I want to derp, so I've got no love for the 268 line)


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NICKEL_AND_DIME #7 Posted 21 March 2017 - 07:16 PM

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122-54 was worse when it came out.  They did give it an accuracy buff a few updates back, but in general it was worse for most of the games I played in it. 

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I actually have a 263 and my key annoyance about it is that the armor profile is good but it's weakspots are huge not to mention the gun doesn't handle at high speeds

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meh... i quit the line after grinding the su100m1 bc tho the gun is op and armor is troll, i just couldn't get use to the gun depression...

 

no gun depression + no turret = i hate it

 

but since i already grinded su100m1, i'll free xp and get su 122-54 one of these days


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View PostNICKEL_AND_DIME, on 21 March 2017 - 07:16 PM, said:

They did give it an accuracy buff a few updates back

 

And a massive DPM buff..


   

 

Nothing New

 

 


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View PostLt_gota, on 21 March 2017 - 01:29 PM, said:

meh... i quit the line after grinding the su100m1 bc tho the gun is op and armor is troll, i just couldn't get use to the gun depression...

 

no gun depression + no turret = i hate it

 

but since i already grinded su100m1, i'll free xp and get su 122-54 one of these days

 

Well I know a lot of people hate it for that reason, but then you still see a lot more Obj 268s which suffer from the same problem? 

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View PostWboys, on 21 March 2017 - 12:01 PM, said:

 

Well I know a lot of people hate it for that reason, but then you still see a lot more Obj 268s which suffer from the same problem? 

 

yeah as an owner of the su-152, isu-152, and obj 704, i can say that these tanks have poor gun depression. 

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View PostWboys, on 21 March 2017 - 03:01 PM, said:

 

Well I know a lot of people hate it for that reason, but then you still see a lot more Obj 268s which suffer from the same problem? 

 

one of the original tanks in blitz, iirc. Still has solid camo, and troll armor. 

 

I doubt I'll ever buy mine. 


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View PostWboys, on 21 March 2017 - 08:01 PM, said:

 

Well I know a lot of people hate it for that reason, but then you still see a lot more Obj 268s which suffer from the same problem? 

 

Yea, but you get a bigger boom than with the 263.  I have never feared a 263.  I DO hate looking down the barrel of a 268.

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Are they really so unpopular? They have fewer players but that could be explain by the fact that the line is relatively new. I for one actually like this line better than the 268 line because these guys have the speed which is so much more valuable than the alpha these days. I never like having a 263 staring at me - for one it reloads fast, two its frontal armor profile is just crazy to shoot at.

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No choice on poll for me, I have the 263. I actually liked the line pretty well. I felt each tank had some good strengths, esp maneuvering. :bush: :great: Btw I happen to think 263'is one of the ugliest tank in Blitz.

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I've been told by trusted friends that this tank is amazing. I've heard it has better camo defaults than the Grille or JdPz E 100 and it can do massive damage. I really don't mind TDs with not very good armor, I'm more of a long distance sniper anyway, so I'm definitely going for this tank.

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