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Should WG nerf Grille 15?

  1. Yes (7 votes [11.11%])

    Percentage of vote: 11.11%

  2. No (56 votes [88.89%])

    Percentage of vote: 88.89%

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karam_2014 #1 Posted 07 April 2017 - 11:40 PM

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Not only is the Grille fast, stealthy, and has a gun that reloads in like 10 seconds. But it also has a dispersion of 0.28!!! WHAT THE ACTUAL F$%K!?!  A 150mm GUN WITH .28 DISPERSION?? THAT IS [edited]! Nerf it to like .35-.38, seriously. 

RoadKutter #2 Posted 07 April 2017 - 11:44 PM

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Relax your body, when 3.8 drops all will be nerfed equally!

                         

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boppinbobby #3 Posted 07 April 2017 - 11:47 PM

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But get spotted and you last like 10 seconds if you're lucky.

 

trust me the gun barely makes up for having a tier 5 tanks chassis and armour in a tier 10 match.

 

 

oh and not sure if it's your poll or my computer but I cast a vote, hit the vote button and it's telling me to cast my vote first.


Edited by boppinbobby, 07 April 2017 - 11:48 PM.

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Z99x #5 Posted 07 April 2017 - 11:49 PM

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are you serious? you act like the tank has something else going for it....no armor, not that good of speed but it is light because it has no armor, it needs a good camo rating because everything can HE right through it at tier 9-10 so i dont even understand the complaint here, its as if the leopard 1's maneuverability and gun handling was removed, it would become useless and have nothing left going for it!!!!!!

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SweatyFalcon #6 Posted 08 April 2017 - 12:01 AM

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View PostZ99x, on 07 April 2017 - 06:49 PM, said:

are you serious? you act like the tank has something else going for it....no armor, not that good of speed but it is light because it has no armor, it needs a good camo rating because everything can HE right through it at tier 9-10 so i dont even understand the complaint here, its as if the leopard 1's maneuverability and gun handling was removed, it would become useless and have nothing left going for it!!!!!!

 



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Money_mann____ #7 Posted 08 April 2017 - 12:12 AM

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Its a paper tank, no nerf needed

 

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Posit1ve_ #8 Posted 08 April 2017 - 12:14 AM

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View Postkaram_2014, on 07 April 2017 - 05:40 PM, said:

Not only is the Grille fast, stealthy, and has a gun that reloads in like 10 seconds. But it also has a dispersion of 0.28!!! WHAT THE ACTUAL F$%K!?!  A 150mm GUN WITH .28 DISPERSION?? THAT IS [edited]! Nerf it to like .35-.38, seriously. 

 

Ahhhhh. That's what it looks like on paper my friend.

 

The soft stats that are hidden from view actually make it rather terrible. Let's address the Grille's "strengths" one by one.

1. It's "fast". The traverse is garbage. Have you ever tried turning in one? You'll go 50 to 0 a lot faster than if you just crash into a boulder. Grille can only really move in a straight line

2. It's "stealthy". Well that depends on your definition of "stealthy". If you think the Jagdpanzer E-100 is stealthy, than the Grille is indeed "Stealthy" since it has nearly identical camouflage values to the JPE-100. I would consider the JPE-100 (and the Grille by extension) quite the opposite of stealthy.

3. It's "accurate". Well for one, Grille's dispersion has already been nerfed to .3 from .28. But dispersion doesn't even come close to telling the whole story. Dispersion is fully aimed accuracy. What the stats don't show is that the Grille has absolutely atrocious gun handling. It's .3/.3 meaning when you traverse the turret it adds .3 to the dispersion, and when you move, it adds another .3. That gives it the worst gun handling IN THE GAME!! Even worse than notoriously troll Soviet guns like the IS-3 defender and KV-2. .3 dispersion does you no good when you have to wait a full 5 seconds to aim anytime you move at all when other tanks can snap in shots in under a second.

 

That's not to mention the Grille has the worst pen of all tier X TDs and a horrid 4 degrees of gun depression and the horrid armor.

 

All the Grille has is somewhat good DPM and decent damage per shot


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antonysadath #9 Posted 08 April 2017 - 12:17 AM

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lets buff it and change the name to 

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_Brianna141 #10 Posted 08 April 2017 - 12:21 AM

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How many levels of autism are we on here?

 

honestly this man need to actually play the game first 

 

salty noobs smh 

 

get good or get rekt 



Yami_taku #11 Posted 08 April 2017 - 12:51 AM

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View Post_LookinGrim, on 07 April 2017 - 07:21 PM, said:

How many levels of autism are we on here?

 

honestly this man need to actually play the game first 

 

salty noobs smh 

 

get good or get rekt 

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Storm216 #12 Posted 08 April 2017 - 12:55 AM

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No, no, no.

The Grille did not even deserve the previous nerf to its dispersion. Now you propose to nerf it further?

No.



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He has 6k battles, why even mind him or even me for that matter talking about a tier X tank

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KempBushThe3rd #14 Posted 08 April 2017 - 02:03 AM

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If it's so OP that you have to whine about it on the forums, why don't you just get the Grille 15 for yourself and play in an "incredibly OP tank?"

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LOL. I only fear them when it has backup or when it's not spotted yet.... but then again the same thing can be said about any other tank in-game

 

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View Postpanzermk6, on 07 April 2017 - 06:14 PM, said:

 

Ahhhhh. That's what it looks like on paper my friend.

 

The soft stats that are hidden from view actually make it rather terrible. Let's address the Grille's "strengths" one by one.

1. It's "fast". The traverse is garbage. Have you ever tried turning in one? You'll go 50 to 0 a lot faster than if you just crash into a boulder. Grille can only really move in a straight line

2. It's "stealthy". Well that depends on your definition of "stealthy". If you think the Jagdpanzer E-100 is stealthy, than the Grille is indeed "Stealthy" since it has nearly identical camouflage values to the JPE-100. I would consider the JPE-100 (and the Grille by extension) quite the opposite of stealthy.

3. It's "accurate". Well for one, Grille's dispersion has already been nerfed to .3 from .28. But dispersion doesn't even come close to telling the whole story. Dispersion is fully aimed accuracy. What the stats don't show is that the Grille has absolutely atrocious gun handling. It's .3/.3 meaning when you traverse the turret it adds .3 to the dispersion, and when you move, it adds another .3. That gives it the worst gun handling IN THE GAME!! Even worse than notoriously troll Soviet guns like the IS-3 defender and KV-2. .3 dispersion does you no good when you have to wait a full 5 seconds to aim anytime you move at all when other tanks can snap in shots in under a second.

 

That's not to mention the Grille has the worst pen of all tier X TDs and a horrid 4 degrees of gun depression and the horrid armor.

 

All the Grille has is somewhat good DPM and decent damage per shot

 

I found all that out when I bought the Grille. It is still a good tank, but oh boy. Anyone who can carry potato team in that thing deserves the win. Raw damage alone is rarely enough.

 

OP just needs to git gud and learn how to use cover and stay out of long lines of sight.


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View Post_Pandageddon, on 07 April 2017 - 11:48 PM, said:

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View Postkaram_2014, on 07 April 2017 - 03:40 PM, said:

Not only is the Grille fast, stealthy, and has a gun that reloads in like 10 seconds. But it also has a dispersion of 0.28!!! WHAT THE ACTUAL F$%K!?!  A 150mm GUN WITH .28 DISPERSION?? THAT IS [edited]! Nerf it to like .35-.38, seriously. 

If I may, I would like to point your attention to the Tortoise's 20-pdr (Relative Caliber: 105mm) gun, which has an accuracy rating of .29 without double food provisions, equipment, and other dispersion-related factors. Are you saying that because the Tortoise's gun is accurate that it should be made less accurate? If so, then what would be the point of grinding for the FV215b (183)?

 

I would also like to say that if the Grille 15 was given 0.36 accuracy, it would be the second most innaccurate Tier X, first place being held by the Obj. 268 and FV215b (183).



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View Postkaram_2014, on 07 April 2017 - 06:40 PM, said:

Not only is the Grille fast, stealthy, and has a gun that reloads in like 10 seconds. But it also has a dispersion of 0.28!!! WHAT THE ACTUAL F$%K!?!  A 150mm GUN WITH .28 DISPERSION?? THAT IS [edited]! Nerf it to like .35-.38, seriously. 

 

Looks like not many people want the Grille to be nerfed, sad day to you sir

 

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