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ARC_FIVES #1 Posted 08 April 2017 - 07:04 AM

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So last time I made the idea of hey let's make a petition to get back old mm. Now when the google forum was created we had some flaws and people could enter names more than once which corrupted our data so for this new and improved petition if you want back old mm +2/-2 back simply state your name in the comments and hopefully WG will see this and do something. After all this is a player based game and also for those like bushka and others who mentioned that tanks would become irrelevant again no they wouldn't maybe adjust your playing style instead of camping the whole time :) 

+2/-2 teaches you how to play your role across all tank classes and therefore each tank is relevant again because they have certain roles to do.


 

 

 


ARC_FIVES #2 Posted 08 April 2017 - 07:05 AM

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BootlegTampico #3 Posted 08 April 2017 - 07:06 AM

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AkagiTachibana #4 Posted 08 April 2017 - 07:11 AM

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#3 AkagiTachibana

Edited by AkagiTachibana, 08 April 2017 - 07:12 AM.

"Strike swift As lightning!"

PixelRage #5 Posted 08 April 2017 - 07:13 AM

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General_Vodka #6 Posted 08 April 2017 - 07:18 AM

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Shadow__Lugia #7 Posted 08 April 2017 - 07:22 AM

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Edited by Shadow__Lugia, 08 April 2017 - 07:23 AM.


_LOONA #8 Posted 08 April 2017 - 07:23 AM

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CK_CookieCrisp #9 Posted 08 April 2017 - 07:34 AM

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The_Witch_K1ng_of_Angmar #10 Posted 08 April 2017 - 07:35 AM

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#9 The_Witch_K1ing_of_Angmar doth agree...

pastore123 #11 Posted 08 April 2017 - 07:36 AM

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4sfield #12 Posted 08 April 2017 - 07:36 AM

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  #11 4sfield (I wanted #13)

Edited by 4sfield, 08 April 2017 - 07:37 AM.

 

Snowflakes - 1, Good Guys - 0

 

FREE _stealy!!!


j0nn0 #13 Posted 08 April 2017 - 07:50 AM

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C-c-c-c-combo breaker. Okay. Take a serious look at your teammates right now. Do you really, really, really want them on your team in +2/-2? Not to mention that team sizes are too small to accomodate a proper balance of tanks. Losing 1/7 tanks in a battle makes a big difference real fast, especially if the top tiers on your team suck.

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BootlegTampico #14 Posted 08 April 2017 - 08:07 AM

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View Post_Shawk, on 08 April 2017 - 01:35 AM, said:

+2/-2 Map Strategy
+1/-1 Map Strategy

 

 

View Postj0nn0, on 08 April 2017 - 03:50 AM, said:

C-c-c-c-combo breaker. Okay. Take a serious look at your teammates right now. Do you really, really, really want them on your team in +2/-2? Not to mention that team sizes are too small to accomodate a proper balance of tanks. Losing 1/7 tanks in a battle makes a big difference real fast, especially if the top tiers on your team suck.

 

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_chasey #15 Posted 08 April 2017 - 08:39 AM

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Nope. Much prefer +1/-1

CA_vampire #16 Posted 08 April 2017 - 08:41 AM

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No. Bad idea. 

withskel #17 Posted 08 April 2017 - 08:56 AM

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12# Withskel

Chasey bugger off,i want ze old mm back

 


 

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Mayjaplaya #18 Posted 08 April 2017 - 09:06 AM

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I'll repeat what I said in the last big +2/-2 petition thread because nobody really addressed it.

 

So many people go "herp derp, I can beat +2 heavies with mediums all the time", but what if you switched the tank classes? What the heck can a VK30.01 H do against a Comet? A VK36.01 H do against a T-54 mod. 1? A Tiger II against a 140/T-62A? In each case, you're too slow to flank, you have, arguably, and even worse armor profile, and the 140/T-62A have more health and a DPM advantage of something like 70% over the Tiger II. Even if you play smart, deal your damage, and conserve all of your health, if the rest of your team are idiots and die, and you're left 1v1 or worse, the medium can just yolo at you, around your cover or whatever so "tactics" like hull-down and sidescraping are negated, autoaim into center mass, butter your "armor" and outtrade you. Unless the medium is botting, afk, or so stupid they sit in the open and shoot at some autobounce area on purpose, you'll have no chance.

 

You only need a small WR advantage to dominate [edited]heavies 2 tiers higher in a strong light or medium like the VK28.01, Cromwell (B), Comet, Type 62, LTTB, etc. But if you're in the [edited]heavies like the ones I mentioned above, like I said, the only way you can beat a strong medium 2 tiers higher, even if you are a unicum, is if they are botting, afk, or are so stupid they sit in the open and shoot at some autobounce area on purpose.

 

Again, I don't really care either way, but I'd rather not see yet another +2/-2 circlejerk with nobody bringing any counterpoints.


Edited by Mayjaplaya, 08 April 2017 - 09:07 AM.

YYK

 

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tcamp48 #19 Posted 08 April 2017 - 09:08 AM

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Nope, not gonna happen.

raymond_mac67 #20 Posted 08 April 2017 - 10:01 AM

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+2\-2 is what made getting to tier X so coveted. It wasn't as easy then. Now I see players with less than 1000 battles in X.


 






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