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360TrickShotter #321 Posted 03 May 2017 - 06:07 AM

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Didn't WG give us survey back when they actually listened to the playerbase they introduced +1/-1 MM?

I'm pretty sure they introduced +1/-1, then removed it, then gave us the survey to see which one we liked better, and I guess we know which side won out.


 

 

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dayton07277 #322 Posted 03 May 2017 - 06:18 AM

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With 3.8 coming out. And then bring back 2+2. Hahahaha. Yeah..... I could gold my way to 70%er. Thanx but nfw!!! 

Chariot_Solace #323 Posted 03 May 2017 - 06:32 AM

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View PostBolo_MkXX_Tremendous_DMD, on 03 May 2017 - 12:49 AM, said:

 

I do play the CDC, and I win most of my games in it.  I don't platoon all of the time and I'm not a keeper of the key so I don't want them to horde rare camos or return to old matchmaking.  You have to earn your victories and if you play this game to compete with enemy teams (not to wave your <richard> in the forums) you already understand this.

 

Well. That's cool I guess. Just saying it's basically a tier 7 tank inserted into tier 8. Which is definitely true. It actually has less advantages than the drac.

I've had some good games in it. I'm just not a huge fan. 

 

But yea....."Wave my <richard> in the forums?" Lol Wt f? If anyone's doing that it's you. Trying to brag about doing well in a not so great tank. lol. Seriously?


Edited by Chariot_Solace, 03 May 2017 - 06:57 AM.

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Pittoors_ #324 Posted 03 May 2017 - 12:07 PM

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You know, a couple of years before I would have agreed with +1/-1 because I was a considerably worse player but now I don't really care if it's back to +2/-2 again.

 

That being said, speaking about +2/-2 or +1/-1 is way too controversial and will lead to nothing. WG has already tested the MM and now +1/-1 has been here for quite some time already, I guess you should move on about it.

 

It's beating a dead horse.


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Big_Tidday_Goth_GF #325 Posted 03 May 2017 - 01:24 PM

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View PostChariot_Solace, on 02 May 2017 - 10:32 PM, said:

 

Well. That's cool I guess. Just saying it's basically a tier 7 tank inserted into tier 8. Which is definitely true. It actually has less advantages than the drac.

I've had some good games in it. I'm just not a huge fan. 

 

But yea....."Wave my <richard> in the forums?" Lol Wt f? If anyone's doing that it's you. Trying to brag about doing well in a not so great tank. lol. Seriously?

 

not really skro, just that comparing it to an OP tank, anything is going to look bad.  I don't come in here to act great and all that - I think it's obvious who does and how horrible this community is - but I defend the CDC because it is a good tank that perennial, girlish whiners use as an excuse to do nothing but kvetch at the game.  It is a fine tank with the accuracy to snipe IS-6 weak spots and the hilariously exaggerated (and lied about by scumbags) Defender armor from across the map.  It's a regular sniper, not a hair on fire tank like Dracula or Dragon.

 

It isn't about ability in the game, at the end of the day: it's about how people attacking the CDC, screeching about the Defender, and jocksniffing everyone with an opposing view are fundamentally dishonest people.  Those are the people who want to beat up on helpless stock tier VIIIs in their top tier platoon, and no matter how much of a loud and unpleasant noise they make, they still obviously are a minority of players.


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Big_Tidday_Goth_GF #326 Posted 03 May 2017 - 01:28 PM

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View Post360TrickShotter, on 02 May 2017 - 10:07 PM, said:

Didn't WG give us survey back when they actually listened to the playerbase they introduced +1/-1 MM?

I'm pretty sure they introduced +1/-1, then removed it, then gave us the survey to see which one we liked better, and I guess we know which side won out.

 

I think they care more than people give them credit for.  I don't like every decision they make and I don't like where this update is headed, but Nintendo and Sega are where you want to look to see companies that really hate their fans.  Konami or Capcom are by far the worst

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tcamp48 #327 Posted 03 May 2017 - 01:49 PM

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Don't want it back....nope.

Chariot_Solace #328 Posted 03 May 2017 - 05:16 PM

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View PostBolo_MkXX_Tremendous_DMD, on 03 May 2017 - 01:24 PM, said:

 

not really skro, just that comparing it to an OP tank, anything is going to look bad.  I don't come in here to act great and all that - I think it's obvious who does and how horrible this community is - but I defend the CDC because it is a good tank that perennial, girlish whiners use as an excuse to do nothing but kvetch at the game.  It is a fine tank with the accuracy to snipe IS-6 weak spots and the hilariously exaggerated (and lied about by scumbags) Defender armor from across the map.  It's a regular sniper, not a hair on fire tank like Dracula or Dragon.

 

It isn't about ability in the game, at the end of the day: it's about how people attacking the CDC, screeching about the Defender, and jocksniffing everyone with an opposing view are fundamentally dishonest people.  Those are the people who want to beat up on helpless stock tier VIIIs in their top tier platoon, and no matter how much of a loud and unpleasant noise they make, they still obviously are a minority of players.

 

Right so...apparently, the constant complainers that populate these forums have worn you down to the point where, the instant you see someone half joking about a tank with an emoji to signify it, you jump on them with insults. Good to know. ^^^This guy is sensitive boys. Watch out!^^^

 

It's not just comparing it to an OP tank. They are the same tank. According to WG, the Drac was just a CDC but reskinned. Then when they finally released the CDC we find out that is slower, a bigger target, the spaced armor on the sides was removed, it is less accurate on the move, it has the exact same alpha and hit points. and  all it really has over it's counterpart is a bit more pen to help it compete vs. tier 9s and slightly slightly better accuracy when it is stationary. Which is all fine. Not every tank should be OP. Some people love driving tanks that present a significant challenge to drive. Like I said, my comment was a half joke based off of something that is well known, not a complaint, and it was relevant to the topic of playing tanks two tiers higher. I am not one of the constant complainers that you seem to have a hard on for, in fact I am usually the one silencing them. Up until WG's recent chicanery with the new update that is. Since then I have just been letting them whine.


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Big_Tidday_Goth_GF #329 Posted 03 May 2017 - 05:27 PM

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Lol I'm just telling the truth.   It is true, people calling is annoying (especially when they say please) but it's most just confirmed for vaccines when they start raging that the rest of us don't partake in their ragefest.

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TheKidVauv #330 Posted 16 May 2017 - 06:11 PM

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Wargaming obviously really doesn't give any sh**s about our opinion

SBrockstar95 #331 Posted 22 July 2017 - 06:46 AM

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Yah 7v7 is not enough tanks for this kind of matchmaking...

GreenFaceUS #332 Posted 22 July 2017 - 10:10 AM

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I beg your pardon. Would someone be kind enough to explain, how +/- 2 MM be translated to "so people can have better understanding of tank roles"? What makes +/- 1 MM lacks of that?

 

Imho, the understanding is every player's choice to learn and implemented, not something we can forced through any system.


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GreenFaceUS #333 Posted 22 July 2017 - 10:12 AM

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I beg your pardon. Would someone be kind enough to explain, how +/- 2 MM be translated to "so people can have better understanding of tank roles"? What makes +/- 1 MM lacks of that?

 

Imho, the understanding is every player's choice to learn and implemented, not something we can forced through any system.


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Val_Darrant #334 Posted 22 July 2017 - 01:23 PM

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Uh...No

 

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tcamp48 #335 Posted 22 July 2017 - 01:33 PM

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Not in favor of it and I won't ever want to go back. 

SpartacusDiablo #336 Posted 22 July 2017 - 01:41 PM

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Yes please.

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Vino4Ever #337 Posted 22 July 2017 - 02:31 PM

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This thread has already died once.  Please stop reviving threads that should be left alone.

And NO, leave MM at +/-1.


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STOP whining and crying.


tankcrunch #338 Posted 22 July 2017 - 04:29 PM

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RIP GhostHuey.......

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View Postcheasesteak, on 08 April 2017 - 07:38 AM, said:

failtoon and play 2 down all you want. Problem solved. 

 

Just fix the SP problem and reconsider with spaded tanks






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