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3.9 ammo prammo fiasco

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acrisis #1 Posted 24 May 2017 - 02:58 PM

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[ the list has grown and post #18 in this thread has the longer listing http://forum.wotblit...87#entry1220887

 

So, word is going around that not all Premium Ammo has been properly discounted. 

 

Little did I know that we all should be taking screenshots of every single tank for ammo cost (and equipment cost etc) ... but while thumbing through my garage I did take a few snaps because of some serious cost differences within the same tier that I observed, and previously did not quite pay attention to. 

 


RED: no prammo discounts for premium tanks ... what gives?! 
BLACK: no prammo discounts for some regular vehicles ... what gives?!

 

It was not bad enough that WG chose not to credit all players - netting WG BILLIONS of credits in their favor - with the prammo cost change from 3.8 into 3.9.

 

Now we are struck with another failed script, unknown correction date, ...

 

I guess the simplest thing is simply not to load ammo and not to play ... so I don't lose a million credits on the day WG decides to patch the ammo cost. 


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acrisis #2 Posted 24 May 2017 - 03:03 PM

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Additional known tanks that did NOT receive discounted Premium Ammo:

 

BT-SV

Angry Connor
Shinobi
Pz. IV S
Van Hellsing


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View Postacrisis, on 24 May 2017 - 11:03 AM, said:

Additional known tanks that did NOT receive discounted Premium Ammo:

 

BT-SV

Angry Connor
Shinobi
Pz. IV S
Van Hellsing

 

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I sold all of my ammo from all of my tanks, no matter what kind it was HE, or APCR. I sold everything. So luckily I didn't get scammed. The only ammunition I purchased and used this update so far was for the Chafee and no other tank.

 

Edit: I even told some people, no ammo just ramming to protest the update (as a mild joke) but wow I can't believe you got the numbers backing my outlandish comment.


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jonesie3096 #5 Posted 24 May 2017 - 03:20 PM

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I knew something like this would happen and clear all premium ammo out. Wg will fix in a patch or 3. 

Loserville27 #6 Posted 24 May 2017 - 03:22 PM

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View PostGenericMIKE, on 24 May 2017 - 03:14 PM, said:

I sold all of my ammo from all of my tanks, no matter what kind it was HE, or APCR. I sold everything. So luckily I didn't get scammed. The only ammunition I purchased and used this update so far was for the Chafee and no other tank.

 

did the same.  Most of the tanks I don't even use anymore.  I only loaded 1 tank to test the update.  These updates are just one disaster after another.

acrisis #7 Posted 24 May 2017 - 03:30 PM

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Seems to be hit & miss as to which tanks got discounted.

Verified the following two premiums via Preview videos and current in game cost. 

 

IS3D was 5200 now 4400

Dragon was 2800 now 2400 

SU12244 was 4800 now 4000

AT15A was 3200 still 3200

E25 was 2800 still 2800


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NaDa_22 #8 Posted 24 May 2017 - 03:33 PM

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My guess is that the whole thing was rather hastily done. Why else did 112 and some others not receive any AP Penetration buff? 

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This was an awful idea from the beginning. I'm not surprised at all that the execution was botched up.


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View Postacrisis, on 24 May 2017 - 03:30 PM, said:

Seems to be hit & miss as to which tanks got discounted.

Verified the following two premiums via Preview videos and current in game cost. 

 

IS3D was 5200 now 4400

Dragon was 2800 now 2400 

SU12244 was 4800 now 4000

AT15A was 3200 still 3200

E25 was 2800 still 2800

 



acrisis #11 Posted 24 May 2017 - 03:57 PM

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On the upper end, my 

IS7, T54, IS8, IS3, KV4, KV5, IS3D, T34 ... premium ammo look to be discounted. 

 

On the lower end, my
Tetrach 1200 1200, Locust 800 800, PZIIJ 400 400, T127 800 800 ... premium ammo look to be without discount

 

... don't really have the time to go through 84 tanks ...

 


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It would not surprise me if the "stated" shell price was not what actually gets deducted. Much like the grocery store changes the price tag but not the bar code in the computer. So you see $1.99 but get charged $2.29. :P

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View PostKiser_Sosei, on 24 May 2017 - 11:15 AM, said:

It would not surprise me if the "stated" shell price was not what actually gets deducted. Much like the grocery store changes the price tag but not the bar code in the computer. So you see $1.99 but get charged $2.29. :P

 

At this point in time ... after the credit nerf, not crediting back some old modules that were obsoleted, m60 script issue, starting lotto scams, repo'd 3.7 equipment, pocketing a few billion credits overnight with 3.8 into 3.9 (player base x 20% of anywhere from 1 to 20 million in premium ammo loadouts depending on garage size ) and whatever else that has gone on ... 

 

Sadly enough, it feels like we all have to be watchdogs instead of enjoying the game. 

 

 


 

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View PostSilevern, on 24 May 2017 - 10:45 AM, said:

This was an awful idea from the beginning. I'm not surprised at all that the execution was botched up.

 

  This^. Why even use it if you're going to take the hit to alpha? I don't understand why anyone would want to trade alpha for pen when pen really isn't much of an issue with AP. Why spend the money for a guaranteed pen that isn't even guaranteed? If you want to do more consistent damage, use AP. The trade off for increased pen and reduced alpha isn't worth it. Why even bother to pay for it? The only situation I can think of to use it is when you have to make a kill or be killed and then you better make certain your going to bring enough the alpha to do that. 

 

  I ran a test using APCR last night in my Victory.

 

 

  ...and with AP. I dropped the rammer, used the 5% increased pen and supercharge.

 

 

  The results were consistent. I did more damage in the games I where I used AP. The Alpha on the APCR wasn't worth the trade for the increased pen. I'd have to run testes on other tanks to say the same about them but right now, I think the alpha nerf was overdone.


 

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The Prammo nerfed killed the T69 and T54E1, they have awful AP pen and their prammo pen was bad as well.  

    Now lower dmg prammo for them just means scratch or bounce most of the time...

 

I didn't check their costs - but I'm not going to be playing either of them anymore it looks like. 


 

 
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So far, confirmed unchanged premium ammo cost, based on my garage and reports from some other players: 

 

Premiums

 

T2 Light

Tetrarch

Locust
PZIIJ
PZS35

T127

M3 Light

BTSV

SU76i

PZ38H

A32

PZB2

ValentineII

RAM II

T71

T15

PZV/IV
T25

Churchill III

Excelsior

PZIVS

T3485Victory

TOG

Cromwell B

STRV74A2

DickerMax

E25

T3485Rudy

AT15A

Nameless

Edelweiss
Blaze WZ

Helsing HO

FCM50T

 

Regular

 

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Thanks to the previous release nerfing, and the 3.9 prammo damage reduction, the M48 and Obj 140 have become unplayable against heavies.  Guess it's time to sell them

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Change in ammo seems like a way to get us to buy different tanks rather than level the playing field for skill.  Very disappointed...fun level has gone down considerably with these and other changes in this last update.




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