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BootlegTampico #1 Posted 22 June 2017 - 03:43 PM

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Finally got around to finishing these up. I am missing the 4202, because I couldn't get anyone with one to test!

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If you want to know what this means.

spottingRange = effectiveViewRange - (effectiveViewRange - 50) * camoFactor

 

Spotting Range-Range at which you are spotted.

Effective View Range-View range of the spotter.

Camo factor-a percentage value that determines your concealment. This may not be greater than 1. 


Edited by AmmorackedIS6, 22 June 2017 - 05:22 PM.

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r4zrbl4de #2 Posted 22 June 2017 - 03:51 PM

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I can test with my 4202

 

 

 

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Why is the 268's so high?

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BootlegTampico #4 Posted 22 June 2017 - 04:02 PM

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View PostPixelBucket, on 22 June 2017 - 12:01 PM, said:

Why is the 268's so high?

 

because it's the best tank

View Postr4zrbl4de, on 22 June 2017 - 11:51 AM, said:

I can test with my 4202

 

sweet! I'll have to try and catch you soon.

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_Duncan_Idaho_ #5 Posted 22 June 2017 - 04:27 PM

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View PostAmmorackedIS6, on 22 June 2017 - 07:43 AM, said:

spottingRange = effectiveViewRange - (effectiveViewRange - 50) * camoFactor

 

OK, nevermind, I found the WOT wiki and it says "camo factor may never exceed 1" and that makes me think the numbers in your list are percentages. . . .  why did I try search the forum? I should have used google in the first place. . .

http://wiki.wargamin...nics#Examples_2

Please clarify. . . .  This math doesn't make sense to me given what I think the values are so I think I must be wrong:

 

So, let's take the Leo 1 spotting a 140 and plug it in for example. View Range is maybe 280. I don't know what "effective view range is", but I assume it is bigger than 280 due to optics, 100% crew, vents or other modifiers. Nothing would make it smaller except an untrained crew, right? So, assuming we are just at 280:

 

spottingRange = 280 - (280-50)*16.15 = a negative number which makes no sense.

 

So, would someone please clarify how this formula is supposed to work?


Edited by _Duncan_Idaho_, 22 June 2017 - 04:39 PM.

 

 

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Camo crew skill? Camo paint? Camo equipment? Tank crew?

 

I really want this info, but the formula seems a lil incomplete.

 

 


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_AzorAhai #7 Posted 22 June 2017 - 04:35 PM

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What about the T57 heavy?

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_AzorAhai #8 Posted 22 June 2017 - 04:36 PM

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Effective view range is the view range of the enemy vehicle. Should be base view range. The rest is the values of your tank.

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_AzorAhai #9 Posted 22 June 2017 - 04:38 PM

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Also, that value for camp is a percentage. So 16.2 would be .162

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BootlegTampico #10 Posted 22 June 2017 - 05:20 PM

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View Post_Duncan_Idaho_, on 22 June 2017 - 12:27 PM, said:

 

OK, nevermind, I found the WOT wiki and it says "camo factor may never exceed 1" and that makes me think the numbers in your list are percentages. . . .  why did I try search the forum? I should have used google in the first place. . .

http://wiki.wargamin...nics#Examples_2

Please clarify. . . .  This math doesn't make sense to me given what I think the values are so I think I must be wrong:

 

So, let's take the Leo 1 spotting a 140 and plug it in for example. View Range is maybe 280. I don't know what "effective view range is", but I assume it is bigger than 280 due to optics, 100% crew, vents or other modifiers. Nothing would make it smaller except an untrained crew, right? So, assuming we are just at 280:

 

spottingRange = 280 - (280-50)*16.15 = a negative number which makes no sense.

 

So, would someone please clarify how this formula is supposed to work?

This problem solved itself in time :medal:

View PostTengenToppaPotatoLagann, on 22 June 2017 - 12:33 PM, said:

Camo crew skill? Camo paint? Camo equipment? Tank crew?

 

I really want this info, but the formula seems a lil incomplete.

 

 

Those adjust the camouflage factor, with the exception of crew training. I haven't yet tested to see how they perform. 

View PostBig_Brothers_Ban_Hammer, on 22 June 2017 - 12:35 PM, said:

What about the T57 heavy?

It's there.

View PostBig_Brothers_Ban_Hammer, on 22 June 2017 - 12:36 PM, said:

Effective view range is the view range of the enemy vehicle. Should be base view range. The rest is the values of your tank.

It's effective view range because view range can be adjusted based on crew training, equipment, and module condition. 

View PostBig_Brothers_Ban_Hammer, on 22 June 2017 - 12:38 PM, said:

Also, that value for camp is a percentage. So 16.2 would be .162

Correct.


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