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Jagdwagengrimm_ #1 Posted 08 July 2017 - 09:29 PM

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I'm fed up with this game, and have lost my last bit of hope that WG will fix anything. They will only continue to add more and more cartoon content that ruins the theme, needlessly further complicate simple solid aspects of the game, make changes that no one wants, in one instance because some moron developer's feelings were hurt since no one used the useless equipment that he created,directly and indirectly nerf tanks that people spent money and countless hours on, make it harder to make progress in general, promote poor gameplay by making missions a necessity/priority over winning matches while attempting to simultaneously enslave you with two sets of missions a day because the mission rewards are so precious you don't want to ever miss them, get further and further and further away from realism until all the tanks have wings and Buzz Lightyear poking through the commander's hatch, ripoff customers with shady gambling events, drive away highly loyal players that spent cubic butloads of cash with them, take away progress players have made in the game only to give us 1/10th compensation and make us work to get it back, reduce our effective garage size, drive away their own community contributors by making it harder to produce a variety of content, throw in some blatantly pay to win content here and there, perpetually fail at in game balancing by over-buffing tanks(ex. T34) or over-nerfing tanks(ex. AMX50B), or giving all the advantages to one class of tank(heavies ATM) removing a large portion of the strategical aspect of the game since prammo is a much smaller threat, armor is dominant over mobility, view range differences are negligible, tracks block more shots, and traverse speeds are so high you don't have to worry about getting CODed anymore, not to mention every change brought to the game is glitched/flawed to some degree and never works as advertised and is never fixed in a timely manner, ignore overwhelmingly negative feedback on changes to the game and ignore your players in general basically telling us too bad, get used to it etc., all the while trying to sell us crap and apparently not worrying at all, all because this game has no direct competition. At some point though it will, and I can't wait for that time to come. The more I play this game, the less I think of Eastern Europe and the way you guys do things. This game is a single shade of what it used to be and it's flat out sad.I used to say WG developers had the IQ of Billy Madison on crack, but then I remembered most of them are Russian/Belorussian so they're probably all Krokodil addicts. Morons. Whoops, almost forgot the absurdly obvious Soviet bias. It's pretty funny considering Finland and Afghanistan whooped that [edited].

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Jagdwagengrimm_ #2 Posted 08 July 2017 - 09:30 PM

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TitaniumRadon #4 Posted 08 July 2017 - 10:29 PM

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He's right, why the hell is WG adding these stupid fantasy and made up tanks when they should by updating the French tank line by adding there light tanks and Tank Destroyers.There should also add the chinese tank line like the PC version and remove thoes dumb fantasy, made up tanks like the 3 GUP COLLECTION tanks which are the Anko,Kuro Mine and SP Kame, which are all made up.

hydra1415 #5 Posted 08 July 2017 - 11:24 PM

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View PostTitaniumRadon, on 08 July 2017 - 10:29 PM, said:

He's right, why the hell is WG adding these stupid fantasy and made up tanks when they should by updating the French tank line by adding there light tanks and Tank Destroyers.There should also add the chinese tank line like the PC version and remove thoes dumb fantasy, made up tanks like the 3 GUP COLLECTION tanks which are the Anko,Kuro Mine and SP Kame, which are all made up.

 

This continues to amuse me. Why do all of the realism gurus pick on the GUP tanks? At least they are all models of real tanks (Hetzer, Pz. IV, Tiger) even if they have stupid animals drawn on them (Kame, looking at you) and ridiculous voice acting (Anko, looking at you). They function the exact same way as their counterparts, except for the health nerf on the Kuro and the spaced armor on the Anko. If you have the Lupus, Edelweiss, and Nameless to pick on, as well as the Drac, Helsig, and Tankenstien, why even bother mentioning the GUP tanks, much less use them as your main weapon? If you're gonna be a realism guru, at least do it intelligently.  


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Better get it right WG - War Thunder for mobile is in development

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View PostMeatshield_Six, on 08 July 2017 - 03:34 PM, said:

Better get it right WG - War Thunder for mobile is in development

 

​Good.  Once it's ready, all their players can come to Blitz :amazed:

 

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View Posthydra1415, on 08 July 2017 - 11:24 PM, said:

 

This continues to amuse me. Why do all of the realism gurus pick on the GUP tanks? At least they are all models of real tanks (Hetzer, Pz. IV, Tiger) even if they have stupid animals drawn on them (Kame, looking at you) and ridiculous voice acting (Anko, looking at you). They function the exact same way as their counterparts, except for the health nerf on the Kuro and the spaced armor on the Anko. If you have the Lupus, Edelweiss, and Nameless to pick on, as well as the Drac, Helsig, and Tankenstien, why even bother mentioning the GUP tanks, much less use them as your main weapon? If you're gonna be a realism guru, at least do it intelligently.  

 

Drac isn't that fantasy. It is an amx cdc.

Before people give me the 2 second repair tracks fantasy, remember that no real life tank repairs even in 10 seconds.



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Another one of these? Let's be real. A bunch of the "real" tanks were just blueprints or concepts. If a tank gets penned once it's game over, there is no infantry planting sticky bombs on your tank, you are playing with and fighting against tanks from every nation at the same time and much much more. The realism thing isn't an argument for me. It 8s all based on ww2 tanks and that's fine with me. 

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View Postwannabeunicum, on 09 July 2017 - 01:09 AM, said:

 

Drac isn't that fantasy. It is an amx cdc.

Before people give me the 2 second repair tracks fantasy, remember that no real life tank repairs even in 10 seconds.

 

View PostDanAnsomeHansome, on 09 July 2017 - 01:23 AM, said:

Another one of these? Let's be real. A bunch of the "real" tanks were just blueprints or concepts. If a tank gets penned once it's game over, there is no infantry planting sticky bombs on your tank, you are playing with and fighting against tanks from every nation at the same time and much much more. The realism thing isn't an argument for me. It 8s all based on ww2 tanks and that's fine with me. 

 

First off, the cartoon tanks/cartoon camos are only a fraction of WG's p iss poor management of this game and only a fraction of my post. Secondly, the entire premise of "hybrid nation" tanks is absurd. Tanks hailing from nations that don't exist and that look like Gundam Wing machines commanded by Yu-gi-oh are way out of place in a WWII-Cold War era tank game. They stick out like giraffes in an ant farm and ruin the theme. At least the blue print tanks belong to a nation and are made up of modules and chassis that were available to those nations at the time. For the most part, it is entirely possible that they could've been built under different circumstances. They fit in much easier and it's undeniable. And before you say repair kits and adrenaline and all that stuff isn't realistic either, those are game mechanics, separate from the storyline that all games have, the THEME that all games have.

 

But again, it's only a fraction of WG's b s.


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I feel badly for those of you who invested a lot of $$ into this game ... the time alone required to reach a semi-enjoyable level is investment enough. I can only imagine I would feel exactly the same as you do had I done the same. And you didn't even mention how brutal the game is set up for new players, allowing experienced vets who maintain low-tier vehicles to club seals and pad stats.

 

I have never given, nor will I ever give, a dime to Blitz or the PC version, which I recently migrated to as I grew tired of the same ol' garbage with Blitz, because I will never give money to an enterprise that incorporates frustration for its customers in to its business model to try and get them to invest in the enterprise, and to continue incremental investment to alleviate incremental frustration. I play WoT because I have an historical interest in armored combat, and as soon as another enterprise comes along with a more attractive fun-to-frustration value ratio, that's where my money will go.

 

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From WG point of view its playerbase age group ranges from young teens up to retired men and women. So cartoon tanks are going to be added. Its how WG keeps its product going. Its how they get new players. Honestly 8 domt cate about the tanks i play it because of the competition. Every tank adds new dynamics to the game. Its a mobile based shooting game. Most players just want to drive around and shoot. Other players are focused on having great stats some are in between. Thats what adds diversity to the game. If youre the typeof player whos focused on stats you will have to learn to carry harder, toon more often and know that you cant win every time. You have to expect to lose 50% more or less battles that you play. Some dont care if they win or lose. Most think that the objective of playing is run out to the open and hope your tank can dish out more dpm then 7reds. They are clueless as to using cover to dodge shots. Once you realize that the game is nolonger focused on skill and just except all your friends you told about this game and are now playing with no idea what to do and it will never be the same. The less likely you be to rant.

I actually play less now i used to play 50 plus battles a day now i play 20 every few days.it will get better once school starts again and less kids play and i may play more. Right now i haven't the interest in the game as much.  It's like this every year at this time. Untill the end of September. Schools out kids stay up late and play. 



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Used to be I could just pop into a game in a spaded tank, do my meatshield routine and get back to important things.  Then came boosters that took some time to employ, but I could live with that .. but then my equipment on both grinds and premium was taken and tiers of choices costing time and gold came along just as I was getting a handle on how to play effectively and I lost interest in doing more than training rooms.  I read somewhere that WG's Blitz development director has resigned; and if so, I'm staying installed in hope some significant regression comes about that returns Blitz into the quick fix arcader it was.  JMO  

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View Posthydra1415, on 08 July 2017 - 06:24 PM, said:

 

This continues to amuse me. Why do all of the realism gurus pick on the GUP tanks? At least they are all models of real tanks (Hetzer, Pz. IV, Tiger) even if they have stupid animals drawn on them (Kame, looking at you) and ridiculous voice acting (Anko, looking at you). They function the exact same way as their counterparts, except for the health nerf on the Kuro and the spaced armor on the Anko. If you have the Lupus, Edelweiss, and Nameless to pick on, as well as the Drac, Helsig, and Tankenstien, why even bother mentioning the GUP tanks, much less use them as your main weapon? If you're gonna be a realism guru, at least do it intelligently.  

This. I am fine with the GuP tanks because they are essentially reskinned tanks. However, the Valkryia Chronicle tanks, ugh. Like Vikko said. Go fap to your waifu somewhere else.


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I will begin this post by stating that I am a total weeb. Extreme bias may follow.

 

Now I will attempt to refute your post.

 

First of all equipment is not useless. It provides a substantial advantage and is relatively cheap and balanced, adding more customizability to your tanks.

 

Second, most of your complaints were about balancing. Personally, I have noticed very few balancing issues, except for the KV-2, my arch-nemesis. I find that heavies are actually quite vulnerable to basically anything that can immobilize them, and move faster than their traverse speed. It's actually quite funny to see a leopard literally running circles around a Kuro who can't turn their turret fast enough.

 

As for your complaints on nerfs to premium tanks... IMO premium tanks are supposed to be exclusive, not OP. Nerfs to them are simply a part of game balance.

 

As for missions... most of them REQUIRE you to win matches to complete them, completely negating your complaint.

 

The gambling event isn't really shady, just painful when you don't win a Merica tank after buying 10 boxes.

 

Finally for the Anime tanks ( and yes I am triggered that you used the word "cartoon" ) GUP tanks have already been talked about so lets talk about Valkyrie Chronicles. They're pretty balanced, my JPanther has no problems taking them out. But more importantly, they don't break immersion because you almost never see them. At $25 a pop, they are a rare sight on the battlefield, and when you do see them, personally I don't mind that much.

 

All that being said, I do wish WG would improve the matchmaker so that it uses stats not just tiers. I hate seeing noobs who bought their way up to VIII as they ruin my games. Also the prammo nerf is... pretty dumb, but APCR rounds are still sufficient to punch through even the toughest armor.

 

And which tank features Buzz Lightyear? Because I want that.:)

 

 


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View PostClockwork_Legion, on 09 July 2017 - 10:06 PM, said:

I will begin this post by stating that I am a total weeb. Extreme bias may follow.

 

Now I will attempt to refute your post.

 

First of all equipment is not useless. It provides a substantial advantage and is relatively cheap and balanced, adding more customizability to your tanks.

 

Second, most of your complaints were about balancing. Personally, I have noticed very few balancing issues, except for the KV-2, my arch-nemesis. I find that heavies are actually quite vulnerable to basically anything that can immobilize them, and move faster than their traverse speed. It's actually quite funny to see a leopard literally running circles around a Kuro who can't turn their turret fast enough.

 

As for your complaints on nerfs to premium tanks... IMO premium tanks are supposed to be exclusive, not OP. Nerfs to them are simply a part of game balance.

 

As for missions... most of them REQUIRE you to win matches to complete them, completely negating your complaint.

 

The gambling event isn't really shady, just painful when you don't win a Merica tank after buying 10 boxes.

 

Finally for the Anime tanks ( and yes I am triggered that you used the word "cartoon" ) GUP tanks have already been talked about so lets talk about Valkyrie Chronicles. They're pretty balanced, my JPanther has no problems taking them out. But more importantly, they don't break immersion because you almost never see them. At $25 a pop, they are a rare sight on the battlefield, and when you do see them, personally I don't mind that much.

 

All that being said, I do wish WG would improve the matchmaker so that it uses stats not just tiers. I hate seeing noobs who bought their way up to VIII as they ruin my games. Also the prammo nerf is... pretty dumb, but APCR rounds are still sufficient to punch through even the toughest armor.

 

And which tank features Buzz Lightyear? Because I want that.:)

 

 

 

Ok weeb. Let me correct the plethora of inaccuracies, misunderstandings, and just plain erroneous statements you have posted on my thread.

 

"In one instance because some moron developers feelings were hurt since no one used the useless equipment he created".:facepalm: I have no idea how you misinterpreted this statement to mean that all equipment is useless. I really don't. It was a reference to the old equipment system which was fantastic and presented no problems whatsoever except that some of the half wit developers didn't like the fact that basically everyone used the same equipment(Which is still the case btw. Morons didn't even address their main complaint which no one else was bothered by.) They were vents, on all closed top tanks, not just autoloaders, gun rammer, and vstab or gun laying drive, and no one used some of the useless equipment like CO2 filled fuel tank or a couple others that hardly anyone ever used. If you had been playing this game for longer than a couple weeks, you would know that. That is also why you have no understanding of just what a big deal update 3.8, the new equipment system, and the introduction of sparse parts was. Some people have garage sizes of two or three hundred tanks, and have spent thousands of dollars on the game, and when this crap was implemented, only a very small fraction of their tanks could be fully equipped aka competitive. It was a massive slap in the face and many many people quit over it. This was in part due to the compensation rate of sparse parts handed out in relation to battle count and garage size. It was something absurd like 1/10 of people's garage fully equippable. 

 

I am am far from the only one complaining about balancing. It is widely realized that heavies are by far the strongest class of tank at the moment. Go ask Dimzzy or DMG, or any of the countless more experienced players whose opinions hold exponentially more weight than yours does. Before 3.8's equipment system, which is OP btw, not useless:facepalm:, and the ridiculous prammo nerf, it was way more balanced. Heavies had to be much more careful when dealing with meds because, not only was mobility an disadvantage, but view range and dpm and traverse speeds were too. Getting CODed and tracked and pumped full of prammo or sniped from a distance when you couldn't see the enemy was much more common and a real threat. Now, not so much. If you see this it is because you are a new player in the low tiers watching other new players in the low tiers get wrecked. Heavies have all the advantages now hands down. If a med switches to prammo which is a necessity in the higher tiers, it's DPM drops substantially and it is a massive disadvantage. WG Devs are brainless clowns for the prammo nerf.

 

No one ever said premium tanks were supposed to be OP, BUT. WG has made statements on several occasions that they will avoid nerfing premium tanks that people spent money on unless absolutely fking  necessary. They are not supposed to be OP, but some of the changes to the game have rendered several of them next to useless. Ex. T23E3. If you weren't a noo b, you would understand this.

 

Missions being a necessity is poorly thought out joke because too many of them ask for things like capturing bases or spotting and destroying a vehicle, or tracking two enemies, which causes players to, choose capping bases over helping their team mates, be overly aggressive and die being reckless instead of being smart and using caution leaving your team short handed, or choose to shoot a track instead of shooting a tanks hull and doing damage, which may have been an important missed damage opportunity. All of these choices can lead to losses, but players will do them anyway because sparse parts are sparse and precious.

 

The gambling no events are shady because there is no spending cap, which means it is possible to spend $80 and receive no tanks, which is what everyone wants. They should guarantee you at least new tank if you spend a high amount. Leaving your customers feeling ripped off is just plain bad business.

 

Anime is a friggin style of cartoon. That is exactly what it is, idc if you're triggered or not. That's what it is. The valkyria tanks, the Halloween tanks, and th O47 are far from rare, they have overrun tier Seven completely. And half of them are OP. Lupus drac and helsing  especially. They destroy the games theme and don't belong.

 

Prammo has been neutered and is barely a threat anymore considering the DPM drop you get with it, and many tanks relied on it. It has rendered too many tanks next to useless. Everyone with a brain knows that. 

 

Buzz lightyear is coming next year, after they introduce the Mario cart tanks, and everyone over the age of 12 has quit the game completely.

 

In short. You don't have a clue what you're talking about weeb. Ask around. The players that really know this game and have experience agree with me. All of this comes from months of playing this game, browsing the forums and Blitz YouTube channels. The game is trash now, and the only reason anyone sticks around is because it has no direct competition, for now.

 


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This game is not built for the benefit of good players: let's just get that into our collective heads now.

 

Wargaming has built a game that is over the heads of the vast majority of the people who play it.

 

Think about the ramifications of that statement, and it will help you understand everything that is done in the game's development.  Everything that WG does is for the benefit of those users.  Is the game trash.  Absolutely not.  But all these changes have been made to allow WG to make money off their core users - and sorry, it's not you or me - it's the thousands of mindless plebs who download and play the game.


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View PostChariot_Solace, on 08 July 2017 - 09:29 PM, said:

I'm fed up with this game, and have lost my last bit of hope that WG will fix anything. They will only continue to add more and more cartoon content that ruins the theme, needlessly further complicate simple solid aspects of the game, make changes that no one wants, in one instance because some moron developer's feelings were hurt since no one used the useless equipment that he created,directly and indirectly nerf tanks that people spent money and countless hours on, make it harder to make progress in general, promote poor gameplay by making missions a necessity/priority over winning matches while attempting to simultaneously enslave you with two sets of missions a day because the mission rewards are so precious you don't want to ever miss them, get further and further and further away from realism until all the tanks have wings and Buzz Lightyear poking through the commander's hatch, ripoff customers with shady gambling events, drive away highly loyal players that spent cubic butloads of cash with them, take away progress players have made in the game only to give us 1/10th compensation and make us work to get it back, reduce our effective garage size, drive away their own community contributors by making it harder to produce a variety of content, throw in some blatantly pay to win content here and there, perpetually fail at in game balancing by over-buffing tanks(ex. T34) or over-nerfing tanks(ex. AMX50B), or giving all the advantages to one class of tank(heavies ATM) removing a large portion of the strategical aspect of the game since prammo is a much smaller threat, armor is dominant over mobility, view range differences are negligible, tracks block more shots, and traverse speeds are so high you don't have to worry about getting CODed anymore, not to mention every change brought to the game is glitched/flawed to some degree and never works as advertised and is never fixed in a timely manner, ignore overwhelmingly negative feedback on changes to the game and ignore your players in general basically telling us too bad, get used to it etc., all the while trying to sell us crap and apparently not worrying at all, all because this game has no direct competition. At some point though it will, and I can't wait for that time to come. The more I play this game, the less I think of Eastern Europe and the way you guys do things. This game is a single shade of what it used to be and it's flat out sad.I used to say WG developers had the IQ of Billy Madison on crack, but then I remembered most of them are Russian/Belorussian so they're probably all Krokodil addicts. Morons. Whoops, almost forgot the absurdly obvious Soviet bias. It's pretty funny considering Finland and Afghanistan whooped that [edited].

 

 

I read all of this and i agree completely. Constant additions of unnecessary [edited], marathon events, meanwhile ignoring all the broken things. You forgot flat maps too.



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