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RH_131 #1 Posted 09 July 2017 - 10:21 PM

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Nothing about this tank is heavy. It's armor is so bad I'd rather be in a leopard 1 as I can count on 1-2 bounces per game. Unlike every other tank in the British tech tree it doesn't have any turret armor whatsoever. It's mobility is on par with an E-75, which would be great if it had the same turret as the caernarvon or 215b. But since it doesn't, there's absolutely no reason to think this tank is good. It will easily be killed by not only every tier 9 tank it meets, but also by every tier 8 because in case I haven't pointed this out yet, it has 0 armor. The only reason I still have this tank is the gun, otherwise it'd be in the same place my obj 704 is. But having a good gun on a paper box does nothing when T-54s can yolo rush you and kill you in 20 seconds 10/10 times. This pos needs an immediate buff to its turret armor so it actually belongs in the heavy tank tree. 
 
 
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Mr_BushyBeard #2 Posted 09 July 2017 - 10:30 PM

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Agreed. 

When I got it, I was really looking forward to it. I seriously didn't win more than a couple of games in it. It is not a heavy in any way. 

It's the odd tank at tier nine that actually isn't as great as the rest. Usually, tier nine is the sweet spot. Not so with the Conq.


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tdskip2 #3 Posted 09 July 2017 - 10:37 PM

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CeNeN_is_FakeNews #4 Posted 09 July 2017 - 10:40 PM

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It's definitely not a very usable tank and definitely deserves a buff but I have found the high penetration HE shells work very well against so many tier 8 tanks

 



_Hav0k #5 Posted 09 July 2017 - 11:06 PM

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What.....

 

If they buff the Conq's turret, it's gonna be OP. I also don't know why you said it's slow, it's really quick and nimble. Plus T-54s are ez kills because you have the DPM and traverse to keep up with them, more HP and HESH... It's a pure heavium not a heavy.


Edited by Space_Ape_Marksman, 09 July 2017 - 11:07 PM.

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Dark_Magician_Girl #6 Posted 09 July 2017 - 11:07 PM

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I think the conq is actually pretty good..... 

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RH_131 #7 Posted 09 July 2017 - 11:10 PM

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View PostSpace_Ape_Marksman, on 09 July 2017 - 06:06 PM, said:

What.....

 

If they buff the Conq's turret, it's gonna be OP. I also don't know why you said it's slow, it's really quick and nimble. Plus T-54s are ez kills because you have the DPM and traverse to keep up with them, more HP and HESH... It's a pure heavium not a heavy.

What're you talking about. The gun takes 11 seconds to reload, whereas a T-54 takes 6. It gets absolutely destroyed by any medium tank because it can't bounce anything.


 
 
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DanAnsomeHansome #8 Posted 09 July 2017 - 11:13 PM

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View PostDark_Magician_Girl, on 09 July 2017 - 11:07 PM, said:

I think the conq is actually pretty good..... 

 

That's bc u r pretty good. 

christian1470 #9 Posted 09 July 2017 - 11:51 PM

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View PostSpace_Ape_Marksman, on 09 July 2017 - 06:06 PM, said:

What.....

 

If they buff the Conq's turret, it's gonna be OP. I also don't know why you said it's slow, it's really quick and nimble. Plus T-54s are ez kills because you have the DPM and traverse to keep up with them, more HP and HESH... It's a pure heavium not a heavy.

 

this. The conq is a fine tank, it's got a great gun, the turret is pretty good and it's got depression and mobility. Further, why anyone would ever get rid of an obj 704 is completely mind boggling to me. 

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View PostDark_Magician_Girl, on 09 July 2017 - 06:07 PM, said:

I think the conq is actually pretty good..... 

 

Your's is pretty good, not mine. :D

 

 

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Confused_Teletubby #11 Posted 10 July 2017 - 12:04 AM

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View PostDark_Magician_Girl, on 09 July 2017 - 03:07 PM, said:

I think the conq is actually pretty good..... 

 

View PostSpace_Ape_Marksman, on 09 July 2017 - 03:06 PM, said:

What.....

 

If they buff the Conq's turret, it's gonna be OP. I also don't know why you said it's slow, it's really quick and nimble. Plus T-54s are ez kills because you have the DPM and traverse to keep up with them, more HP and HESH... It's a pure heavium not a heavy.

 


 

 


G_O_O_S_E #12 Posted 10 July 2017 - 12:06 AM

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View PostDark_Magician_Girl, on 09 July 2017 - 11:07 PM, said:

I think the conq is actually pretty good..... 

 

I actually agree. I remember playing it when I personally WASNT good and I still have pretty decent stats and remember it treating me well. Sure it's not a great tank, but honestly I think it prepares you for playing the 215b, which in terms of armor is outclasses by oh idk pretty much every tier ten heavy?

Mayjaplaya #13 Posted 10 July 2017 - 12:11 AM

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View PostRH_131, on 09 July 2017 - 04:10 PM, said:

What're you talking about. The gun takes 11 seconds to reload, whereas a T-54 takes 6. It gets absolutely destroyed by any medium tank because it can't bounce anything.

 

Uh...

 


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_Hav0k #14 Posted 10 July 2017 - 01:59 AM

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View PostRH_131, on 09 July 2017 - 11:10 PM, said:

What're you talking about. The gun takes 11 seconds to reload, whereas a T-54 takes 6. It gets absolutely destroyed by any medium tank because it can't bounce anything.

 

Do you not have full crew? Because even without rammer it's around 9 seconds.

Edited by Space_Ape_Marksman, 10 July 2017 - 01:59 AM.

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Tomio_Hara #15 Posted 10 July 2017 - 02:52 AM

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G_O_O_S_E #16 Posted 10 July 2017 - 03:10 AM

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View PostTomio_Hara, on 10 July 2017 - 02:52 AM, said:

What do you have against the 704? I love that tank!

 

I'd rather play a CGC or a St. Emil. The 704, along with the ISU, were by far my least favorite tanks I've ever played in this game. They beat out even the terribly, awful, irrelevant Ferdinand for suck factor. Giant steaming garbage piles

RH_131 #17 Posted 10 July 2017 - 03:25 AM

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View PostTomio_Hara, on 09 July 2017 - 09:52 PM, said:

What do you have against the 704? I love that tank!

The fact that shooting the [edited] of a T-95 at point blank range is impossible causing his platoon mate to pen my angled side losing a game.


 
 
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CptCheez #18 Posted 10 July 2017 - 03:28 AM

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I've gotten 11 Raseiniai medals in this game in my nearly fifteen thousand battles.  One of those was in the Conqueror.  2 of my 37 Pool's were in the Conq as well.

 

Your argument is invalid. :)


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Conqueror was a very good tank when it could beat up mediums. I don't see it doing very well in the current superheavy/TD meta.

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