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T69 -- Where is the buff, Wargaming?

T69 American Auto-loader buff

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ABN_Bearcat #1 Posted 10 July 2017 - 06:34 PM

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Okay, I don't recall when the American T57 line was added, but I know that it has been long enough. Why hasn't the T69 been buffed? This tank doesn't have one single strong point. Everything is subpar to mediocre at best. It's pen is atrocious and even more so since the nerf to gold ammo. It really could use a buff.


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Reddeer_2015 #3 Posted 10 July 2017 - 06:45 PM

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Personally I feel T69 isn't too bad to play with, but T57 heavy is kinda awkward as the worst tier 10 tank without any kind consideration from wg developers.

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The T69 isn't really a threat in my book. The T54E1 is god awful.

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T69 needs a buff to 195mm AP pen, 2 seconds between shells, and 4 shells per clip, with like a 22 second clip reload

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The T54E1 needs it more.

 

 


_Duncan_Idaho_ #7 Posted 10 July 2017 - 09:22 PM

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hmm. .  I got the T69 with very low expectations as I had heard about how bad it was. . . but I actually do very well in it (relative to me in other tier 8 meds) . . . maybe it's because it's one of my only tanks equipped with VertStabs :justwait:

 

 


ABN_Bearcat #8 Posted 10 July 2017 - 11:56 PM

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View PostPosit1ve_, on 10 July 2017 - 04:00 PM, said:

T69 needs a buff to 195mm AP pen, 2 seconds between shells, and 4 shells per clip, with like a 22 second clip reload

 

I think this would make it more competitive. The AP pen I too low. The extra shell would help with the poor DPM. At least it wouldn't hurt as much if you bounce a shot.

Edited by ABN_Bearcat, 10 July 2017 - 11:57 PM.


ABN_Bearcat #9 Posted 11 July 2017 - 02:17 PM

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View PostWatea_23, on 10 July 2017 - 01:45 PM, said:

Personally I feel T69 isn't too bad to play with, but T57 heavy is kinda awkward as the worst tier 10 tank without any kind consideration from wg developers.

 

I feel like it is the worst tier 8 medium currently in the game. It is very unwieldy and awkward. It would be great if it had two more degrees of gun depression. At least that would make it easier to hide the hull of the tank.


MayoNasalSpray #10 Posted 11 July 2017 - 02:39 PM

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T69 is actually very viable. The armor is pretty good given how it has smooth curves offering a much better chance of bouncing. The penetration isn't bad either given it can dish out 675 damage in the matter of 6 seconds but only has about a 16ish second magazine reload.

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View PostWatea_23, on 10 July 2017 - 12:45 PM, said:

Personally I feel T69 isn't too bad to play with, but T57 heavy is kinda awkward as the worst tier 10 tank without any kind consideration from wg developers.

 

I'm ranked top 100 in the t57, it is balanced just fine. The t69 needs help before anything else in the line

 

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ABN_Bearcat #12 Posted 14 July 2017 - 08:14 PM

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I have been playing the T69 for the past week chasing its ace. The biggest issue I have with it is the penetration. It is too low. Especially considering all the IS spam at tier 8.


_Radium #13 Posted 08 August 2017 - 06:06 PM

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T69 and t54e1 are both trash, they are so utterly hopeless, thank god wg added in the t49 line to reach the t54e1, I was about to free xp my way from t69 to t54e1, they both deserve to be buffed a lot, they are very mediocre AT BEST

ABN_Bearcat #14 Posted 11 August 2017 - 03:04 PM

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Okay, I have played this tank a lot since I first created this topic. I have easily played over 400 games in it. I still think it needs a buff. If anything needs to be buffed, then it has to be the penetration. The AP pen is just not sufficient with all the IS-? spam at tier 8. I pretty much have to load HEAT and that is not good. It lowers the DPM of this tank from 1893 to 1598 without vents fitted, which is abysmal at tier 8 (The Fury has 1993 of DPM with its AP). I use calibrated shells, because the pen sucks, as stated.

 

I just can't figure out why WG hasn't fixed this tank. It is broken.


Edited by ABN_Bearcat, 11 August 2017 - 06:03 PM.


vvk2 #15 Posted 18 August 2017 - 02:20 PM

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Both autoloader lines (American and French) are to be fully rebalanced in 4.2

Padre_ShadowRider #16 Posted 31 August 2017 - 06:56 PM

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I was about to ditch this T69 when I saw that the T54E has even worse damage per PEN!  I can't imagine a more worthless tank. It is okay against lower tiers, but not in its own class or above. I'll wait on 4.2 to see if it is worth it.  Will want to hear if the 54 becomes a viable tank. Too bad I can't cross trade for the T49  At least that one has some serious pen power.

SanguinaryDan #17 Posted 10 October 2017 - 02:09 AM

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If the tank is this bad now my heart goes out to you folks who drove it before they supposedly buffed it in 4.2.  

 

The armor’s not bad for an American medium, though the mobility is.... Shall we say, lacking?  But that gun is pure garbage.  The AP can’t and the HEAT won’t.  That’s not a winning combo.  I wasn’t expecting much after the American light autoloaders, but something would have been nice.  I’ve only played a very few games in it so far.  But I’m thinking I’ll probably stick with the Pershing line and just call this one a teaching moment.  It’s a shame too as I really like the look of these tanks. :playing:


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