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MarBearCat #61 Posted 17 July 2017 - 06:43 PM

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I'll shove my T1 Heavy so far up a KV 1 it's Hetzer will scream in PAIN!!!

GeneralBossman #62 Posted 17 July 2017 - 06:44 PM

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View PostSpace_Ape_Marksman, on 17 July 2017 - 12:02 PM, said:

How is T1 Heavy bad.... One of the best heavy dpm of tier 5, good frontal armor, fast AND it can ram..

 

Never said it was bad. It's a tank that often gets misused and I find pretty easy to kill.

 

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MarBearCat #63 Posted 17 July 2017 - 06:45 PM

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View Postrazernaga2014, on 17 July 2017 - 01:10 PM, said:

People be disagreeing with the choices but not offering a replacement/substitute tank.

 

Why should I be offering a replacement? I'm just here to RIGHT A WRONG!

 

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GeneralBossman #64 Posted 17 July 2017 - 06:47 PM

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View PostMayjaplaya, on 17 July 2017 - 11:04 AM, said:

Maybe it's because grinds aren't very long at tier 6 and you can get to the Panther through the VK30.01D as well.

 

Oh, and you have to grind the horrible VK30.01H to get to the VK30.02M. Now that is a garbage tank I have no fear facing.

While that's true, I really don't see much of either tank really. 

 

Not sure how I feel about 30.01H, because the gun is great but the armor leaves a bit to be desired...


 

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View PostSharpe40475, on 17 July 2017 - 10:29 AM, said:

 

not necessarily, DPM yes, low alpha, not quite. We all seem to agree that the Leo can be a terror at tier 5. While high alpha can make it feared, low alpha doesn't necessarily mean the opposite.  Large clip potential similar to having alpha

 

I definitely think weak armor makes more of a candidate. 

 

You can't be saying that the ISU-152 or the Jadgtiger are candidates.  Both tanks have good alpha and pen

 

 



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View PostBakalovBoy, on 17 July 2017 - 10:37 AM, said:

 

Is this supposed to be a troll post ?

 

What do you think?

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If the enemy FV4202 knows what he/she is doing its actually really scary to face them. 

 

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View PostMAJIME, on 17 July 2017 - 12:54 PM, said:

If the enemy FV4202 knows what he/she is doing its actually really scary to face them. 

 

That's true with just about any tank... The average player, not so much.

 

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Tier 5-

 

Chi-Nu. While I undoubtedly love this tank as well as pretty much every other tank in the line, most people just cannot drive this tank correctly. The thin armor makes it a cinch to finish off with HE from french 90s, and the general ineptitude of people who drive it in random matches totally cancels out any pro this tank has.

 

M4. Particularly with 105. Yes, it's the same story as with the Chi-Nu.

 

M7. It's a smaller M4 with a horrible 75mm gun and an okay 57mm.

 

Chaffee. Why does it fire so slow? Nobody knows.

 

Tier 6-

 

M6. Joke of a tank. Basically just a T1, with extra weakpoints, and up a tier. The armor is worthless at the tier even against lights and mediums.

 

AT 8. Dear. Lord. The definition of awful. Same points as you, so no need to reiterate.

 

KV-1S. Yes, I know, that 122 is OP, and it is. It's that 22 second-long reload that takes the cake for me. Just juke 'em into firing and missing and then pummel them to death while they wait for the drunken loader to cram the propellant into the breach.

 

MT-25. 45mm gun? At tier 6?!

 

Tier 7-

 

AMX M4 45. While I love to play this tank simply for the gun, most people cannot make this tank work, and I can see why. The misleading title of "heavy tank" makes many people think that they need to be up-front, taking hits for their team, when they really need to be sitting back a little bit, making the gun sing. The weak armor makes HEing them through the sides and rear easy.

 

Chi-Ri. Another tank I love but do not fear. The poor pen makes it easy to wiggle about and bounce a few shots. Missing is the hardest thing to do when encountering one since it's the size of a run-of-the-mill condominium.

 

Tier 8-

 

Ru 251. While this tank can easily get the best of someone caught off guard, all you have to do is load HE and watch as the HP melts away.

 

T28/T28 Prototype. Same killers for both of them: the dreaded slow. The thin side armor crumbles like a sand castle as soon as a gun of any considerable caliber hits it. The armor is pretty much non-existent as pretty much every gun at tier 8 has more than 203mm of penetration, or is on a chassis faster than a arthritic turtle and can flank around them, completely negating the armor profile of the vehicles.

 

Tier 9-

 

Type 61. Again. Love the tank. But for some reason pretty much every Type 61 driver I have ever seen in random matches has forgotten that they are indeed in a Type 61 and not a T-54, and thus forgets that it only has 90mm of frontal armor.

 

Tortoise. Same reasons as the T28, so need to reiterate, except the fact that the armor on this tank actually doesn't exist.

 

Leopard PT A. Particularly the more common stock ones with the possibly unintentional 6 second aim time. Seriously though, why does this gun take 6.3 seconds to aim?!?

 

I'm not gonna bother with tier 10 because I really just dislike playing at this tier so much that I have no opinion on any tank at the tier.


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BakalovBoy #70 Posted 17 July 2017 - 07:27 PM

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The Panther 1 is an amazing tank and probabaly hands down one of my favorite tanks to play at that tier.

Top gun 198 pen is superb for a med and playing bottom tier in a tier 8 match isn't all that bad either. Low alpha but can't beat the awesome pen and very quick reload.

Armor is basically pennable by most everything but then again, mediums shouldn't be relying on their armor in the first place.


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Tier 5:

Stock VK 30.01 H. A stock VK is basically a free kill. The upgraded VK 30.01 H with the Waffe gun is a solid tank. 

 

M7. I have yet to see a decent M7 driver. 

 

Chaffee. Every Chaffee that I have ever encountered have been so easy to kill and the RoF sucks. 

 

Pz Sfl. IVc. This is the only German TD in the Grille line that I considered to be a piece of crap. If this thing gets spotted in a battle, it's toast. 

 

Tier 6:

Stock AT-8. The upgraded AT-8 is a monster in the right hands. However, if it is stock, it is just a 1000 hit point deposit waiting to be emptied. 

 

T37. Every T37 that I have encountered has died so easily. I'm easily able to smash a platoon of these in my Bromwell. 

 

Tier 7:

Bulldog. This tank is a joke. It is too easy to take this thing off of the battlefield. 

 

KV-13. Poor gun depression and it is just simply outclassed in every aspect by its other Soviet tier 7 counterpart: the T43. 

 

T20. This tank is just so mediocre thanks to powercreep. 

 

Panther M10. Powercreep.

 

Tier 8:

Centurion. This tank isn't good enough to compete against other meds such as the T-44 or the Mod 1. It's big as a house and is easily penned. 

 

T28. Free 1150 damage. 

 

Glacial 112. This tank is barely seen on the battlefield since it sucks. From what I've seen/heard, the gun sucks. You should be able to put shots in while the glacial can't return the fire.

 



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I have not read this entire thread.  But for me, the answer is simple:  Whichever tank I am driving.

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View PostMarBearCat, on 17 July 2017 - 03:49 PM, said:

T1 Heavy is BOSS :angry:

 

T1 heavy suuuuuuuuuucks. 

 

The Vk 36.01 is a bad tank? I would argue that it is better than the tiger 1, same armour a tier lower with a smaller hitbox and the same alpha. The only tanks that catch my eye on a team list are either tanks with alpha above 450 or ripe tomatoes: SU-152 and IS-6 as respective examples. Everything else is just a target. Although honestly i fear all tanks, i work with them for a living, they are multi-ton war machines the lot. 


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Tier 5: Churchill I is too slow to matter, low Alpha gun and drivers tend to go straight to cap

Tier 6: MT-25 gun lacks pen, and the Alpha nerf for APCR alpha nerf has hit this tank hard, even though it was weak to begin with. it is hopelessly outclassed by most Meds and lights in same Tier.

Tier 7: SPIC, Bulldog: outclassed by any means by much stronger tanks like T62, Dracs or any med for this matter.

Tier 8: T-28 slow and hence easily avoided and side armor is paper.

Centurion - low Alpha gun and hull armor is paper. Slower than most other Meds and needs to stay hull down.

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View PostMayjaplaya, on 17 July 2017 - 12:04 PM, said:

Nobody ran camp/binocs on the T71, or most light tanks. Those equipment don't synergize at all with light tank camo. Most players ran vents, optics, and VStab. I don't know why people keep complaining about the removal of binocs, and then bring up tanks that almost never (and really shouldn't have) used them.

 

If anything, the T71 and other non-French autoloaders got indirect buffs from the equipment change because rammer got nerfed and single-shot tanks can't use vents anymore.

 

 

Maybe it's because grinds aren't very long at tier 6 and you can get to the Panther through the VK30.01D as well.

 

Oh, and you have to grind the horrible VK30.01H to get to the VK30.02M. Now that is a garbage tank I have no fear facing.

 

I ran my t71 up to something over 60% with camo and binocs while many were complaining about how bad it was. Rush out, spot, net, fire, relocate and do it all over again. Worked like a charm. 



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View PostSpekulatius, on 17 July 2017 - 03:00 PM, said:

Tier 5: Churchill I is too slow to matter, low Alpha gun and drivers tend to go straight to cap

Tier 6: MT-25 gun lacks pen, and the Alpha nerf for APCR alpha nerf has hit this tank hard, even though it was weak to begin with. it is hopelessly outclassed by most Meds and lights in same Tier.

Tier 7: SPIC, Bulldog: outclassed by any means by much stronger tanks like T62, Dracs or any med for this matter.

Tier 8: T-28 slow and hence easily avoided and side armor is paper.

Centurion - low Alpha gun and hull armor is paper. Slower than most other Meds and needs to stay hull down.

AMX CDC: HE magnet, worse than the Drac in most respects

 

both churchills because of the speed and lack of depression. 

 

Ive been meaning that mention the CDC. that tank needs help. 



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I haven't re-equipped my high-tier tanks yet, so I am doing nothing but clubbing, but here are my thoughts:

 

1. T1 Heavy is a monster when it's the top tier. I rock in this tank. It is not as OP against sixes; I love it, but it just isn't.

 

2. I love seeing the toaster, especially when I'm in my KV-1. So not afraid of that thing... so love to vaporize it with HE.

 

3. Not afraid of a single Leopard. A Leopard toon, however? That's a lot more troublesome, especially since I mostly roll in heavies these days. Having two of those boogers buzz you at the same time - they're like gnats, only a bit more deadly.

 

4. Not afraid of the M4, unless my bud bg2b is driving it on the opposing team.

 

5. At tier 6, I'm not afraid of the M6, the AT-8, or the Cromwell.

 

6. At tier 7, I'm not afraid of the IS or the Bulldog. Depending on what tank I'm in I can be afraid of the Sp1c.

 

7. At tier 8, 9, and 10, I'm scared of everything, because I suck.

 

And one more thing - my first few months in this game, way back when, I would go white at the sight of a Hetzer. I mean, I was terrified of them. To me, it was the most op tank I had ever seen. That p.o.v. seems quaint now.


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View Postchristian1470, on 17 July 2017 - 02:36 PM, said:

 

both churchills because of the speed and lack of depression. 

I actually liked the tier 6 churchill. The mobility was definitely painful but I found the armor to be surprisingly good, so the key for me was to stick myself in front of a bunch of enemies with a few teammates behind and let them come to you, hopefully negating the mobility problem. Then you sit there and laugh as the reds bounce off your turret and side armor.


 

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Not afraid of any tank. I do tend to die in spectacular fashion rather often, though...

View Post_War_Child_, on 20 June 2017 - 12:16 PM, said:

Let's face it, they don't even know what it will be and even if they do, they'll probably implement it wrong.

 


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I like this topic, I'll take a shot at it.

 

Tier 5 ...the Wolverine never scared anyone.   An utterly useless tank.

 

Tier 6 ...the su-100y ...  I've got a decent record in mine, but I am never even slightly afraid of seeing it on the reds.

 

Tier 7 ...the t20.... no armor, no gun ... no fear.

 

Tier 8 ...the t28 prototype...can't get to the fight before the seven minute game time expires...has zero effective armor if it ever does get there.

 

Tier 9 ...m103... i know people that have done in great in this tank, but no one fears it.

 

Tier 10....whatever i'm driving at the time.  i evoke zero fear in a tier ten tank.






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