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[Tomio_Hara]

Every game.

 

Every damned game it's there.

 

Most of the time it just sits there, menacingly.

But once every half minute or so it peaks out and

BAM!

1400 hp gone, 3 crew dead, and every module damaged or destroyed. One second you are a full health tank and the next you are a one shot for anyone.

 

This is what the FV-215b 183 does best. And thanks to its HESH rounds it strike fear into the hearts of opponents by just sitting at one end of the map. Even if you have armor the HESH rounds will still splash and do several hundred damage and kill a crew member. Now if you only saw these tanks once every few games or so and never more then 1 on any team it wouldn't be too bad. However, it seems like this tank is now the 2nd most popular vehicle at tier X after the IS-7. Something needs to be done! These tanks turn high tier games into campfests and essentially play the role of artillery in blitz. Even the AP does 930 damage on average, far higher then the typical 640 for other tank destroyers. 

So I am making this petition to try and fan the fire of community outrage to get the dev's attention to change something about this tank. Wether it be nerfing the penetration of HESH rounds, nerfing the alpha damage, increasing the already long reload, or just making it so expensive to play many players can't afford to play it ALL THE TIME, it doesn't matter. 

This tank needs to be nerfed!

 

Spoiler

 85% Of the problem is that there are at least 2 of these tanks every game. I have seen as many as 3 or 4 per team before. Reducing the profitability, increasing repair cost, and making HESH extremely expensive would be a great way to 'nerf' this tank if you don't want it's stats touched. I see that the majority of people answering the poll are not saying why in the thread..

 

Edited by Tomio_Hara, 31 July 2017 - 03:08 AM.

[Dark_Magician_Girl]

You know a tank is broken when you can eat and play at the same time and easily average 3k.

 

It's a completely OP tank that should have the accuracy of a KV-2.

 

+1

Edited by Dark_Magician_Girl, 30 July 2017 - 11:48 PM.

[_Steel_slayer_the_reroll]

I don't have a tier X,  but I agree with what you're saying. I say to replace HESH with HEAT/APCR.

[WipWapJaws]

I don't know.  I don't have it but it really doesn't bother me too much when I see them in game. I find the Maus a harder tank to play against tbh but I see ur point

 

 

whats the accuracy on them like?

Edited by WipWapJaws, 30 July 2017 - 11:58 PM.

[G_O_O_S_E]

_Steel_slayer_the_reroll, on 30 July 2017 - 11:52 PM, said:

I don't have a tier X,  but I agree with what you're saying. I say to replace HESH with HEAT/APCR.

 

well I mean...no... hesh is the only thing British tanks were good fun for, so don't take it away. 

 

But this tank DEFINITELY needs a pen nerf across the board, a decrease to profitability so you see fewer, and WAYYY worse accuracy than the already terrible accuracy it has. 

[Money_mann____]

Just make that thing as innaccurate as hell and force them up front like the rest of us. 

 

Not good enough? Nerf the HESH damage right down to 1000, you can still knaw off a tank's health, but not instantly erase those reds.

Edited by Money_mann____, 31 July 2017 - 01:40 AM.

[Pittoors_]

They should bring back the mechanic when if you switch ammo types, you have to reload all the way again. It would benefit tier X from the 183 spam, yes, it would make tier IX and X mediums weaker when it comes to switching ammo, but that would be a reason to buff their penetration back to their original state.

[_AzorAhai]

Pittoors_, on 30 July 2017 - 07:06 PM, said:

They should bring back the mechanic when if you switch ammo types, you have to reload all the way again. It would benefit tier X from the 183 spam, yes, it would make tier IX and X mediums weaker when it comes to switching ammo, but that would be a reason to buff their penetration back to their original state.

 

it would make every auto loader crap

[Pittoors_]

Big_Brothers_Ban_Hammer, on 30 July 2017 - 08:11 PM, said:

 

it would make every auto loader crap

 

Not every one, but the ones with bad penetration and long reloads like the T69 and T54E1. Just sligtly buff their penetration to a point they don't have to rely on prammo as much. They needed some kind of buff anyways.

Edited by Pittoors_, 31 July 2017 - 12:26 AM.

[Player60]

Even though i have never been shot by one.I was flanking with a pack of meds and all of a sudden *BOOM*The 54 next to me gets hit in the track and kind of loses control and is stuck there.3/4 hp gone.20 or so seconds later *BOOM* the Leo next to me goes down.And there i was sitting alone against 3 heavies...I agree it does need a nerf.Reload,Pen,Accuracy whatevr just do something

[_JadeX]

[_Steel_slayer_the_reroll]

G_O_O_S_E, on 30 July 2017 - 03:58 PM, said:

 

well I mean...no... hesh is the only thing British tanks were good fun for, so don't take it away. 

 

But this tank DEFINITELY needs a pen nerf across the board, a decrease to profitability so you see fewer, and WAYYY worse accuracy than the already terrible accuracy it has. 

Huh. I see. Perhaps increase bloom on 183, increase reload, and lower HP by 50-100 points?

 

[_Steel_slayer_the_reroll]

Pittoors_, on 30 July 2017 - 04:06 PM, said:

They should bring back the mechanic when if you switch ammo types, you have to reload all the way again. It would benefit tier X from the 183 spam, yes, it would make tier IX and X mediums weaker when it comes to switching ammo, but that would be a reason to buff their penetration back to their original state.

 

Please no. T49, KV2, and SU 152 will instantly become underpowered.

[Pittoors_]

_Steel_slayer_the_reroll, on 30 July 2017 - 08:46 PM, said:

 

Please no. T49, KV2, and SU 152 will instantly become underpowered.

 

I see your point, I stand corrected. Then I think either the penetration or the gun handling should be nerfed.

[RoadKutter]

Pittoors_, on 30 July 2017 - 04:06 PM, said:

They should bring back the mechanic when if you switch ammo types, you have to reload all the way again. It would benefit tier X from the 183 spam, yes, it would make tier IX and X mediums weaker when it comes to switching ammo, but that would be a reason to buff their penetration back to their original state.

That's a PC thing, we don't have 30min to wait for ammo to switch on Blitz 

[War_Vet_1]

Nerf it and you take away the only good thing about the tank. No nerf.

[Pittoors_]

RoadKutter, on 30 July 2017 - 08:59 PM, said:

That's a PC thing, we don't have 30min to wait for ammo to switch on Blitz 

 

That mechanic was on Blitz, too.

[YourMomCallsMeOedipus]

Stop getting hit.

[Player60]

Pittoors_, on 31 July 2017 - 01:05 AM, said:

 

That mechanic was on Blitz, too.

 

if it was implememted back,our entire match would be Reload 10 seconds>>wait oops e100 reload apcr 10 seconds.We only have 7 minutes,this idea is so stupid i dont believe anyone would suggest it

[Dark_Magician_Girl]

_Steel_slayer_the_reroll, on 30 July 2017 - 07:46 PM, said:

 

Please no. T49, KV2, and SU 152 will instantly become underpowered.

 

Right, because tanks that can HE a majority of targets at their battle tier for near full rolls will suddenly become underpowered.

 

KV-2, "underpowered." That's hilarious.

 

 

Edited by Dark_Magician_Girl, 31 July 2017 - 01:36 AM.