58 replies to this topic

[Boomer_Von_Doom_II]

What?  You mean the biggest gun in the game which has high penetration HE is broken?  What on earth is your problem?

 

Nerf that b----.

[jkwon126]

Officer_Blitz, on 31 July 2017 - 02:23 AM, said:

I completely disagree. I have no problem taking these tanks out in my IX Patton, They are slow and have terrible turret rotation speed. I can COD these things in a STOCK MODE PATTON. I do have the gun though. Anyways these things are awesome bringing a better variety to the game other than just heavies. Tank destroyers are called that for a reason, they destroy tanks. The thing is, they give medium tanks a purpose. Like a game of Rock Paper Scissors (obviously a bit more than that, but that's the general idea)

 

Heavies>Mediums

Mediums>Tank Destroyers

Tank Destroyers>Heavies

(No tier 9/10 lights)

If there were no high damage tanks heavies would have nothing to fear on the battlefield. I like it better this way

 

This may be a topic where you might have more to gain from reading than writing.

[STINGRAY_2020]

Anyone who played the 183 in the first few months it was released (meaning, before they buffed the dispersion) will tell you that nerfing its dispersion back to original would render it unplayable. 

 

The trouble your facing is a combination of a few things. 

 

A) You're getting hit by a 183. All other issues aside, not keeping track of where they are and skylining your tank, exposing your weakest spots, or driving in the open is your fault. And if you get get penned by HESH, that's you're own fault. 

 

B) The new equipment allows GLD and VSTAB to be stacked. That's a big difference from pre 3.8

 

C) Some players opt to equip pen boost over rammer. The pen boost equipment gives the HESH shell just enough of an increase to pen some areas that were iffy before 3.8.

 

 

 

 

[STINGRAY_2020]

Double post

Edited by Jellotree76, 31 July 2017 - 04:01 PM.

[Amm0rat]

Don't remove the HESH. The equipment system made the 183 have much better gun handling stats than ever before. Change the equipment specifically for the 183 so that it can't run both GLD and Vstabs. The increased penetration equipment should also be removed from this tank. The penetration buff to the HESH causes a non-penetrating shot to cause more damage than a regular HESH round without the increased penetration. Limit the amount of 183's to 1-2 per team. I've had a game with 5 183s on each team... 

[GRIMREPER7]

Its the easiest tank to play against. All you have to do is be aware of the mini map and not spend to much time out in the open. Also just rely on spotting mechanics and play "the lightbuld game," lightbuld comes on, go back to cover. In my experience at tiers 9 and 10 ive never been 1 shot by one, ive just been splashed by HE for 500 dmg. When the 183 does find a target and shoots, its a very easy target. They could mabye nerf its camo to make it easier to spot. Other than that it is fine as is.

[GRIMREPER7]

Its the easiest tank to play against. All you have to do is be aware of the mini map and not spend to much time out in the open. Also just rely on spotting mechanics and play "the lightbuld game," lightbuld comes on, go back to cover. In my experience at tiers 9 and 10 ive never been 1 shot by one, ive just been splashed by HE for 500 dmg. When the 183 does find a target and shoots, its a very easy target. They could mabye nerf its camo to make it easier to spot. Other than that it is fine as is.

[XXX_Corps]

It was just nerfed. It now has little to no armor.

[fedsnbr]

Most of the time when I get hit by a 183, I can see afterwards (after I calm down from the rage of course) that it was because I made a mistake.

[Fishy___]

Space_Ape_Marksman, on 30 July 2017 - 10:56 PM, said:

Hmm....Let's see here...

Pros: 

- Huge alpha

- Good pen

- Good traverse

 

Cons:

- Paper armor

- Non fully traversable turret

-  B A D terrain resistance, as fast as E100 on flat ground

- As big as an E100; terribad camo

- Terrible accuracy

- Very team dependent

- Very RNG dependent

- No gun depression

 

Let's see.

Good pen is a bit of an understatement, 310 AP pen will pen pretty much everything.

Terribad camo is false, it's ridiculous for it's size.

Accuracy isn't even bad considering it's caliber.

RNG dependent? Not if you plan your movements correctly.

 

183 is a hilarious tank. Full glass cannon, epic pub stomper, but in competitive it struggles due to obvious drawbacks.

[_Herr_]

I think the rate of fire should be reduced... honestly I think a lot of high-damage guns need their firing rate reduced. 

 

However...... it's armor is nonexistent. its turret placement doesn't help this fact and it's rather uncommon to bounce off of it. Additionally, it's rather large. Doesn't take much to hurt this vehicle. Problem is, it's easier for the FV to ruin your day if driven by a player with half a brain... which, admittedly, is rare. 

Edited by _Herr_, 01 August 2017 - 05:43 AM.

[Zuke76]

All the nays are salty 183 owners, nerf it anyway

[Zuke76]

Oh shi t this is old i thought it was new lma o

[anonym_sIlFGOSMAtmm]

[dport02]

I agree with what others have said, there’s too many of them in X matches. I’ve seen up to 3 fv183s on each team. It completely ruins gameplay, as everyone is too cautious to move and sits and basically no one advances. This happens too often.

Edited by dport02, 10 July 2018 - 04:12 AM.

[_Crusader6_]

dport02, on 09 July 2018 - 11:11 PM, said:

I agree with what others have said, there’s too many of them in X matches. I’ve seen up to 3 fv183s on each team. It completely ruins gameplay, as everyone is too cautious to move and sits and basically no one advances. This happens too often.

 

Too cautious?     The problem is being too slow.  

 

Yes the HESH Pen is ridiculous. 

    Yes the ammo increase it got was wrong.  

 

But 99% of the 183’s in game are useless.   

   It’s people’s own stupidity that causes issues.   

 

 

[I_Am_Not_Toxic_I_Swear]

LAPPELduvide, on 30 July 2017 - 08:19 PM, said:

Stop getting hit.

 

[SpartacusDiablo]

There are too damn many TD's in higher tiers.  A 183 is annoying as hell but avoidable in most circumstances.  It's when you hit battle and see 5 td's on red and three of them are 183's that the whole thing becomes asinine.

The only think that needs to be nerfed is the 183 population.

[XxxSTAKillaxxX]