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Icefang50 #41 Posted 02 August 2017 - 08:25 PM

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View Postplayer39364645, on 02 August 2017 - 12:28 PM, said:

What ruined the t-43 in my opnion was that after the equipment changes, suddenly every  tank it faces had better or as good view range.  It can't fire a shot now without getting spotted.

It used to be able to sit just beyond everyone's view range and pour in that amazing dpm.

Now it fires one shot and has to hide.

I'm no newebed (sp?), but In the last 173 games since 3.8, I am over 65% WR in the T-43. The bigger impact to tier 7 is the Lupus dice roll. Everyone having optics has also made a huge impact but some players have resorted to name changes to stay anonymous/hidden. 


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The t43 definitely isn't the tank it used to be. I've played maybe 15000 games in it cause it always won the battle, heck when the is 3 defender first came out a few years ago, I'd cod it no problem, when no one else wanted to be near one. Now no matter how much u try killing a tank from the IS family with the t43 it's a struggle if not impossible. But I also think it was too strong in the first place anyway cause I could out shoot and kill a t44 with a t43. 

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View PostPosit1ve_, on 02 August 2017 - 06:58 AM, said:

 

What the tier X autoloaders should have is 4 shells in the magazine. That would be nice. Clip potential > Literally everything else

 

Not really on pc the tvps are really good even though they have small clip potential.

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View PostTomio_Hara, on 02 August 2017 - 08:07 AM, said:

Maybe the AC 1 Sentinel? It is terrible at tier 5 and great at tier 4. If it was buffed in any way to help with the problem of how awful it is when facing tier V's it would make it too overpowered when facing tier IV's. Maybe Wargaming could give it preferential mm..

 

I believe this to be true with most British tanks in that when facing higher tier tanks, it usually doesn't end well

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T54 Mod 1 post pramo nerf is dreadful.  Great armor horrible gun with horrible gun depression.  Sad this is it used to be one of my favorite tanks.  Now it's relegated to the back of my garage even though its fully equipped.  It'll back though one day when WG wants to raise some cash they'll give it a buff and then resell it. 
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View PostProvocative_Communicator, on 02 August 2017 - 09:50 PM, said:

T54 Mod 1 post pramo nerf is dreadful.  Great armor horrible gun with horrible gun depression.  Sad this is it used to be one of my favorite tanks.  Now it's relegated to the back of my garage even though its fully equipped.  It'll back though one day when WG wants to raise some cash they'll give it a buff and then resell it. 

 

are u [edited]serious

Its still a solid tank. It does not need a buff. I see like 1 or 2 mod 1 s per game in tier eight



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Yeah the Mod 1 is still very powerful.

 

I am surprised no one mentioned the T28 Concept. Those disappeared the week after they came out! Super rare anymore and for good reason.


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View PostDark_Magician_Girl, on 02 August 2017 - 01:06 PM, said:

 

 

You can still frontally engage a hull down T34 if you have to.  

Although that's far from ideal in any tank 


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View PostDark_Magician_Girl, on 02 August 2017 - 01:02 PM, said:

This list is more for tanks that I believe to be slightly unerpowered, not for tanks that need massive buffs.  These vehicles have such an opportunity to be great, but they lack a few qualities to reach that standard.

 

 

 

 

Yes. Please buff my T30, it really needs it. I will then be just as competitive in rating battles as in my IS-4. :teethhappy: 

 

In all seriousness though, I think I can understand a bit what you might be saying. The T30 is very situational and the key is actively putting yourself in those situations. It's turret is amazing, I don't understand why you think it's not an amazing turret. I often have large caliber TDs shoot HE at me because they don't think they can pen. I, personally, think the T30 is my best tier 9.  

 

 T34 is kinda the same story except I seem to encounter more prammo spamming TDs that can pen a little more often. 

 

 The 112 I agree on. I thought is was really good but then I tried to think of another tier 8 heavy that, what compared to the 112, that I would take the 112 over. I discovered that, of the heavy tanks I've owned(7), I would take the 112 over the IS-3 and only the IS-3. I would take the T32 or the Caernarvon over the 112.

 

And like you said, this is just my opinion. Not necessarily facts(though I'm pretty sure they are :trollface:). 07



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View PostBuckGrizzly, on 02 August 2017 - 11:11 PM, said:

 

Yes. Please buff my T30, it really needs it. I will then be just as competitive in rating battles as in my IS-4. :teethhappy: 

 

In all seriousness though, I think I can understand a bit what you might be saying. The T30 is very situational and the key is actively putting yourself in those situations. It's turret is amazing, I don't understand why you think it's not an amazing turret. I often have large caliber TDs shoot HE at me because they don't think they can pen. I, personally, think the T30 is my best tier 9.  

 

 T34 is kinda the same story except I seem to encounter more prammo spamming TDs that can pen a little more often. 

 

 The 112 I agree on. I thought is was really good but then I tried to think of another tier 8 heavy that, what compared to the 112, that I would take the 112 over. I discovered that, of the heavy tanks I've owned(7), I would take the 112 over the IS-3 and only the IS-3. I would take the T32 or the Caernarvon over the 112.

 

And like you said, this is just my opinion. Not necessarily facts(though I'm pretty sure they are :trollface:). 07

 

T30 turret isn't that amazing. Any tier 9 or ten prammo goes through the cheeks. Its still a solid turret but it isn't the t29 anymore. The real turret at nine is the st1.

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View Poste___18989, on 02 August 2017 - 10:54 PM, said:

Yeah the Mod 1 is still very powerful.

 

I am surprised no one mentioned the T28 Concept. Those disappeared the week after they came out! Super rare anymore and for good reason.

 

Nah they look ok just like the at15a. 

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View Postcheasesteak, on 02 August 2017 - 09:50 AM, said:

 

​T-71 did just get a reload buff from around 13 seconds to 11 seconds. 

 

That didn't really help. The DPM is still pathetic. Before the buff T71 was a worse version of Strv placed in a wrong tier. Now it is somewhat on par with Strv, still being at a wrong tier.

 


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View Postvvk2, on 03 August 2017 - 03:05 AM, said:

 

That didn't really help. The DPM is still pathetic. Before the buff T71 was a worse version of Strv placed in a wrong tier. Now it is somewhat on par with Strv, still being at a wrong tier.

 

Gonna disagree.  A 10+ percent increase in reload is a significant improvement.  It is still a little light on DPM, but is now enough.  Add in its small size, light tank camo, and quickness, it isn't a bad tank. 



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Oh the 112. 3.8 comes out and I am having a ball playing the tank so I spend parts to get it to the vstab. 3.9 comes out with the prammo nerf so it gets parked. I guess I was the sucker on this one. It's a shame because the armour is so good in certain situations.  

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Glacial 112 DEFINITELY NEEDS BUFF. I have to admit it is terrible. I sold mine, it's gun is just so bad. I have the IS6 now, but form now in I'll be avoiding getting any more Russian heavy premiums, their guns are just so trollishly rage inducing that I can't handle it. I want the O-47. Another tank that needs a buff is the bulldog. It may be the fastest at tier 7, but it has the lowest alpha (no idea why it's so bad), and it's autoloader only has 3 shots!! All they need to do to make that tank competitive is buff the clip size to 4, keep the clip reload the same, and buff the pen a little, then it will be fine. And also make the rof much higher on one shot gun. That tank was so disappointing for me, for EVERYONE. it's supposed to rule tier 7, not be the laughing stock of it. An sp IC can beat it for gods sake. It literally has 65 more alpha per shot... makes no sense. If I had it my way, I'd make the autoloader have 5 shots with a 1.5 second reload. Idk. All I care about for now is the t49. 



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In a weird way I am actually glad DMG included the IS-8 in her list. She is very talented and I am not in her league as a driver but I am competitive in the IS-8 with a 56% WR. So if she thinks the tank under powered then I must be doing something right. :hiding:

                                     

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As much as I love my glacial, what's it's purpose if I can just drive my is5 that has better armor, better mobility, better hitpoints, a better turret, and of course a better gun.

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View Postwannabeunicum, on 02 August 2017 - 11:41 PM, said:

 

T30 turret isn't that amazing. Any tier 9 or ten prammo goes through the cheeks. Its still a solid turret but it isn't the t29 anymore. The real turret at nine is the st1.

 

It works for me. Keep in mind I play it at medium ranges, close enough that the gun can reliably go where I aim but far enough away it's hard for reds to hit my cheeks. I agree that the st1 turret is the one to beat........ If only it had 10 degrees of gun depression, but then it would be a tier 10 at tier 9.


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I'm thinking your playstyle is not suited for some of these tanks, knowing you like fast tanks with dpm

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