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BatChat 25t Impressions - 3 or 4 shell clip?


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ChristianMan777 #1 Posted 10 September 2017 - 12:30 AM

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Personally, I think the incoming BatChat25t should have 4 shots in the auto loader. In all fairness, the BC25t is not supposed to have good (or even mediocre) dpm, it's always been about the burst damage. I personaly believe that the new BC25t should have a 1400 clip potential (350 x 4 = 1400), but if that can't happen then 1240 would be fine in my opinion (310 x 4 = 1240). The BC25t at the moment does not have any real upgrades over the BC25t AP besides a boost in dpm and 8mm of penetration. An extra shell in the clip in exchange for a 20-25 second reload seems fair and balanced to me, especially since the tank has such low penetration and is bound to bounce a shot or two. 4 shells in the magazine would just seem to make the BC25t competative and make it different from the tier 9 BC25t AP and the tier 9 T54E1. That's just my opinion, I wanna hear what others think about this.

 

TLDR: 4 shells is better than 3 because it makes it different from the tier 9 tank and makes it different from other tier 10 tanks.



slayer_____ #2 Posted 10 September 2017 - 01:12 AM

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It should but WG won't. They are nerfing the AMX 50 100 from 4 to 3. 

Posit1ve_ #3 Posted 10 September 2017 - 03:01 AM

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Everyone with a brain wants 4 shells. But WG hates fun...

 

BTW, in case you didn't know, they're nerfing T49, AMX 50 100, Borsig, Grille, wthAuf Pz IV, and T54E1 next patch

 

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It makes perfect sense, so WG won't do it. Hey devs, did it your boss victor promise happy players? Make it happen.

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At least some good news on the obj 268 with the gun depression and traverse buff.  That might be interesting but long long overdue with the death star / grille creep.

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Icecuber07 #6 Posted 10 September 2017 - 04:19 AM

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I think 4 shells would be too much considering that the other t10 autoloaders would have less potential damage(yes i believe 50100 pre nerf is currently extremely op in the right hands). Maybe 3 350 shells?

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ChristianMan777 #7 Posted 10 September 2017 - 04:53 AM

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View PostIcecuber07, on 10 September 2017 - 04:19 AM, said:

I think 4 shells would be too much considering that the other t10 autoloaders would have less potential damage(yes i believe 50100 pre nerf is currently extremely op in the right hands). Maybe 3 350 shells?

 

What we are saying is that we want to have a huge clip potential with a horribly long reload in between clips. The whole point of this huge potential damage is to turn the tide of a battle. Since the BatChat can be caught reloading, you have to be careful in it. That would be the balancing factor of the tank, the huge reload. We don't want just another tier 10 with another 3 shot autoloader because it's tired, it's been done, nobody cares anymore. The AMX 50B has a 1200 dmg clip potential, why can't the BatChat? Because it's a LT? Doesn't the T49 have a 152mm derp gun? Yeah, this whole thing with 3 shots just seems lazy on WG's part. Give us the BatChat we want, a dangerous tank in the right situation, not just some fast T54E1 or a copy of the tier 9 with more HP. Give us the real BatChat!

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The BC25t needs that 4th shell with a 25s reload, or at least 2s or less time between shells with 350 alpha. Something with that little amount of armor having to sit in the open for 6s to empty a magazine is stupid.

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Posit1ve_ #9 Posted 10 September 2017 - 06:00 AM

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View PostIcecuber07, on 09 September 2017 - 10:19 PM, said:

I think 4 shells would be too much considering that the other t10 autoloaders would have less potential damage(yes i believe 50100 pre nerf is currently extremely op in the right hands). Maybe 3 350 shells?

 

The Bat Chat on PC does have more clip potential than the tier X autoloader heavies. A Bat Chat with 1400 clip potential and 3 seconds between shells and like a 25 second base clip reload would be perfectly balanced. Solid clip potential balanced by fairly low DPM and a long reload

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