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Padre_ShadowRider #1 Posted 23 September 2017 - 03:02 AM

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Haven't got the turret yet, but there are 2 choices for the next gun: both 100Mm  D-54 or D10t2c    And the guns lead to a line above like the T62a or Object 140... 

 

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Posit1ve_ #2 Posted 23 September 2017 - 04:24 AM

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The D10t2c used to be the de-facto choice due to better DPM and accuracy/aim time

 

However, with the prammo nerfs, the AP pen on the D-54 is actually important now. DPM doesn't matter if all you do is bounce your shots

 

There's a case for both guns, but right now I'm leaning D-54


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Switched over to the d54 and it's not too bad. It does help make up a little bit for the the nerfs this thing got as well as the prammo nerfs that _posit1ve_ mentioned above. Still won't reliably pen the front of another t54, but it does make the difference when engaging heavies. You no longer need to be perpendicular to the sides of an e75 to pen it, for example. Instead, you might be able to scratch them from an angle with the d54.

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I also like the D54. That pen is really nice with calibrated shells. 

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The one with the best pen, crew skills, consumables and spare parts can fix the gun handling.  But no good if you can pen anything

_DixieNormous #6 Posted 23 September 2017 - 12:35 PM

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I disagree. 18mm doesn't change a whole lot, and if it does, you have 270mm of HEAT. I'll take the DPM 

nukiwaza #7 Posted 23 September 2017 - 12:53 PM

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I have been running the D10 for so long now I don’t remember why I choose it. I got it pre-nerf and never re-evaluated. Most people post nerf are choosing penetration over DPM. I think I will try D 54 with calibrated  shells. 

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I run the D10,  it I'm gonna switch and see what happens.

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View PostFascist_Pickle, on 23 September 2017 - 08:35 AM, said:

I disagree. 18mm doesn't change a whole lot, and if it does, you have 270mm of HEAT. I'll take the DPM 

 

Enjoy your increased use of HEAT with nerfed damage :rolleyes:



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I switched to D1054 with calibrated shells. HEAT is no good anymore anyways: nearly impossible to pen E100 frontally or IS-7 anywhere.  

Edited by vvk2, 24 September 2017 - 05:02 AM.


nukiwaza #11 Posted 24 September 2017 - 04:34 AM

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Ok I ran a bunch of different combinations today and i am done with the D10. Doing much better with D54 and calibrated shells. 

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Well guys, got the D54 top gun today and must say I am a bit disappointed against tier 10s  Even with calibrated shells, most frontal armor of other tanks is still unpenable. Heat doesn't seem any better. From lower tiers the tank looked unstoppable, but when I am bottom tier, unless I can get behind them, I'm not doing much better than with the stock gun.  :-(  

 

 



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In a medium you should be trying to get behind them or their sides.

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Padre_ShadowRider #14 Posted 09 October 2017 - 02:13 PM

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View PostMeatloaf_Sandwich, on 09 October 2017 - 05:09 AM, said:

In a medium you should be trying to get behind them or their sides.

 

yeah, I "should" be able to but sometimes you get boxed in like in Naval going to the concrete hill... Also though on open fields, I am on wireless burst tech and I think my tanks respond more slowly than others as the signal is not continuous. I have the best engine in the 54 but I seem slower than comparable 54's    We are trying to get cable into our neighborhood that may fix some of the latency.

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I've been running the d54 with calibrated shells as of late and have found that the dpm trade off gets you much better effective dpm as you can reliably pen tier ten tanks for the most part with 230 mm of pen.

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I'm using the D10 with calibrated shells and I like it a lot. Not worth sacrificing accuracy and DPM for slightly more pen. Generally you shouldn't be facing heavies head on, I mean, the armor of tier 10 heavies is supposed to be good against tier 10s, not to mention tier 9s. 

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View PostNWasabi, on 09 November 2017 - 05:29 AM, said:

I'm using the D10 with calibrated shells and I like it a lot. Not worth sacrificing accuracy and DPM for slightly more pen. Generally you shouldn't be facing heavies head on, I mean, the armor of tier 10 heavies is supposed to be good against tier 10s, not to mention tier 9s. 

 

You do realize you could use the gun Rammer on The D-54 is basically the same thing...



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View PostMayoNasalSpray, on 09 November 2017 - 02:13 PM, said:

 

You do realize you could use the gun Rammer on The D-54 is basically the same thing...

 

The D54 is less accurate. 

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View PostPadre_ShadowRider, on 09 October 2017 - 02:07 AM, said:

Well guys, got the D54 top gun today and must say I am a bit disappointed against tier 10s  Even with calibrated shells, most frontal armor of other tanks is still unpenable. Heat doesn't seem any better. From lower tiers the tank looked unstoppable, but when I am bottom tier, unless I can get behind them, I'm not doing much better than with the stock gun.  :-(  

 

Wait what. With calibrated shells... I can ez pen all T10 heavies frontally with AP except Maus..... because Maus.... (btw its with D54 and aiming at weakspots :D and I've also noticed that heat is not very useful...)

 

EDIT: I forgot the IS4...


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