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XXX_Corps #1 Posted 24 September 2017 - 02:17 PM

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The 13  75 tier 7 is a good light, then you go to the 13 90 tier 8, absolute trash. It's reload is so slow that your only hope is sniping. This tank is not playable.

_CH3F #2 Posted 24 September 2017 - 02:21 PM

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There's a bunch of tier tanks that don't live up to the tank b4 it. Although from what I gathered tier 8 is supposed to be pretty good. I'm only at tier 6 but so far I think the line is underpowered. 

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First off the tank is not trash, it is a great tank once you learn it, it is also not a sniper, second line support is more its role. When I play it I usually do a scouting run first thing then pull back a bit and give support where it is needed, then around mid to late game I will sweep in and finish off the weaker enemies. Use its burst damage to track and smack enemies for your team then while reloading, view your situation and proceed from there. 

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NateDawg2k16 #4 Posted 24 September 2017 - 05:09 PM

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View Post_CH3F, on 24 September 2017 - 09:21 AM, said:

There's a bunch of tier tanks that don't live up to the tank b4 it. Although from what I gathered tier 8 is supposed to be pretty good. I'm only at tier 6 but so far I think the line is underpowered. 

 

You're opinion is fixin to change. You can't beat 10 sec reload with 1.33 interclip 

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_GraceToo #5 Posted 24 September 2017 - 07:57 PM

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I just made the jump to the 13 90 after 90 games in the 13 75.  It's definitely a transition, but it's still a v good tank with the same basic approach.  The gun hits harder and is slower to fire and reload.  So you simply need to plan accordingly - you can't expose yourself in exactly the same way.  But if you slow down a bit it can to a ton of damage.

XXX_Corps #6 Posted 24 September 2017 - 08:49 PM

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It's trash, compared to it's predecessor.

_GraceToo #7 Posted 24 September 2017 - 09:17 PM

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View PostXXX_Corps, on 24 September 2017 - 12:49 PM, said:

It's trash, compared to it's predecessor.

 

There's no information in that statement.  So it's hard to have any real discussion.

 

As I said, try modifying your style a small amount.  I've had multiple 3500+ dmg games in my first 10 with the 13 90.  That's not trash.



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to be fair, your 13-75 numbers are, for the most part, better than your stats in any other light tank.

 

Perhaps a fortuitous run in that tank skewed your expectations? 

It could also be that the first three tier 8 lights were balanced before the introduction of tier x lights, even in pc...

 

but, i'm only on the 12t, so i'm really just hoping that this is a "you" issue.


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SpartacusDiablo #9 Posted 24 September 2017 - 10:30 PM

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View PostXXX_Corps, on 24 September 2017 - 09:17 AM, said:

The 13  75 tier 7 is a good light, then you go to the 13 90 tier 8, absolute trash. It's reload is so slow that your only hope is sniping. This tank is not playable.

Don't take this the wrong way but I take your opinion of how tanks play with a grain of salt.


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XXX_Corps #10 Posted 25 September 2017 - 06:33 PM

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View PostSpartacusDiablo, on 24 September 2017 - 10:30 PM, said:

Don't take this the wrong way but I take your opinion of how tanks play with a grain of salt.

Take it anyway you wish. My opinion is for the average player base. Which is what I am and represent, based on my statistics.



_GraceToo #11 Posted 30 September 2017 - 04:01 PM

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I'm now 70+ games into the 13 90.  I'm doing noticeably better than the 13 70 (65% wr vs 55% wr).  And I'm not an awesome player - these days my 30-day WR is between 55%-60% depending on how much I'm trying to learn new tanks.

 

It could be I'm just getting more used to how to play them, but I find that the 13 90 has more chance to alter the game - when you can unload a clip or two you can really unsettle other tanks.  But you have to work really hard to get to flanks or behind, or make sure you're using hard cover.


But net net - they are both good tanks.  The speed of reload means you need to make some adjustments, but neither one is trash.



XXX_Corps #12 Posted 01 October 2017 - 11:27 AM

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Well after all is said and done the tier 8 is a step down from the tier 7. The top two reasons? The tank is more sluggish at tier 8 and just quicker at tier 7. And the reload at tier 8 is just too long for a tank with no armor. As a comparison, the t69 has the most similar gun in terms of reload and pen values, it has the armor and speed to handle an auto loader reload, where as the amx 13 90 only has speed.

One of the things I did was add turbo boost, I found it helped a great deal for bugging out during a reload.

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View PostXXX_Corps, on 24 September 2017 - 09:17 AM, said:

The 13  75 tier 7 is a good light, then you go to the 13 90 tier 8, absolute trash. It's reload is so slow that your only hope is sniping. This tank is not playable.

 

Dude, hit me up in game and we can run some 90.  This tank can be an absolute game changer.  I'm loving it and having success.


 

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christian1470 #14 Posted 01 October 2017 - 01:23 PM

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View PostXXX_Corps, on 25 September 2017 - 01:33 PM, said:

Take it anyway you wish. My opinion is for the average player base. Which is what I am and represent, based on my statistics.

 

good answer! Tanks don't play the same for everyone. That sounds crazy, but it's true. 

XXX_Corps #15 Posted 01 October 2017 - 06:53 PM

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View PostLokeen, on 01 October 2017 - 12:52 PM, said:

 

Dude, hit me up in game and we can run some 90.  This tank can be an absolute game changer.  I'm loving it and having success.


 

Happy to help if you're interested!


 

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ingemisco #16 Posted 12 October 2017 - 11:55 PM

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AMX 13 90 is a piece of junk. It may be an average tank for an average player, but it doesn't have the capability to be a good tank. At the moment, not a single player plays it at "Super Unicum" level according to WoTBStars.com. It needs a mobility boost, and a small damage bump if they plan on keeping the current ridiculous shell capacity.






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