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alexcnsf #1 Posted 03 October 2017 - 02:20 AM

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With more made up tanks on the way, why can't we just have so more real tank, like the ones from PC. Personally I want the E10 as a premium, Chinese medium line,  Japanese heavies (I have heard they will never add them bc of blitz gameplay), FV 101, another british medium line, Swedish tanks (mostly just heavy autoloaders and legendary tds). What tanks do you want to see soon?
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YES! E10! That thing will be awesome.

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Sell the firefly as a premium

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Pls no jap heavies

 

 

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Japanese Heavies are a no, considering the fact that their natural predator, and that those do not exist in Blitz, so they would just wreck everything.

As for additions, I don't know... Grizzly?



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View PostWizoGT379, on 02 October 2017 - 08:43 PM, said:

Sell the firefly as a premium

 

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I would like to see an Italian tank. Maybe the P.40? From GuP. Withthe anime skin and name an option so those who have anime PTSD are not offended. Just a thought...

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Chinese lights/mediums. 

Come on, Type 62 with a 105mm and spaced side armour? Sign me the fk up. 


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I would love to see the Swedish heavies introduced after the Chinese meds. That could be followed directly by adding the TD line like they did with the French.

I would also love to see the tier X replacement tanks that are coming in PC. FV 215b replaced by the Super Conqueror. Foch 155 replaced by the AMX Foch 50 B. And the godsend: Noobwagon183 replaced by the FV217 Badger.

 

I'd love to see a Japanese TD line added as well. Yes. There is enough candidates.

And I'd love to see an Italian tech tree. Yes. There is enough candidates.

 

Premiums I am hoping for:

T34 mit. 8.8cm

Rheinmetall Skorpion G

E10

Kanonenjagdpanzer

Revalorise or however it is spelled

Panzer 58 Mutz

STA-2

Lorraine 40T

Zrinyi I/II

Turan III

AMX 13 57

STG

T26E5

M56 Scorpion

and the Stug IV just because it's cool

 

The WZ 111, Chieftain T95, LekPz M41 90mm, T-44-100, and Type 64 are all on the way. 


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View PostNot_A_Fascist, on 03 October 2017 - 12:01 AM, said:

Chinese lights/mediums. 

Come on, Type 62 with a 105mm and spaced side armour? Sign me the fk up. 

 

Agreed. Mostly just slightly changed russian meds, but still...

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View PostChariot_Solace, on 02 October 2017 - 10:57 PM, said:

I would love to see the Swedish heavies introduced after the Chinese meds. That could be followed directly by adding the TD line like they did with the French.

I would also love to see the tier X replacement tanks that are coming in PC. FV 215b replaced by the Super Conqueror. Foch 155 replaced by the AMX Foch 50 B. And the godsend: Noobwagon183 replaced by the FV217 Badger.

 

I'd love to see a Japanese TD line added as well. Yes. There is enough candidates.

And I'd love to see an Italian tech tree. Yes. There is enough candidates.

 

Premiums I am hoping for:

T34 mit. 8.8cm

Rheinmetall Skorpion G

E10

Kanonenjagdpanzer

Revalorise or however it is spelled

Panzer 58 Mutz

STA-2

Lorraine 40T

Zrinyi I/II

Turan III

AMX 13 57

STG

T26E5

M56 Scorpion

and the Stug IV just because it's cool

 

The WZ 111, Chieftain T95, LekPz M41 90mm, T-44-100, and Type 64 are all on the way. 

 

I heard that the chieftan t95 event got cancelled along with the russian meduim tier 8 and the german bulldog. U can view what tanks are coming into the game later by checking was tanks you can use for missions and then selecting not only in garage. the cheiftan is there but I thought people said it was cancelled from the update 4.3 or 4.4
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View PostChariot_Solace, on 03 October 2017 - 01:57 AM, said:

I would love to see the Swedish heavies introduced after the Chinese meds. That could be followed directly by adding the TD line like they did with the French.

I would also love to see the tier X replacement tanks that are coming in PC. FV 215b replaced by the Super Conqueror. Foch 155 replaced by the AMX Foch 50 B. And the godsend: Noobwagon183 replaced by the FV217 Badger.

 

I'd love to see a Japanese TD line added as well. Yes. There is enough candidates.

And I'd love to see an Italian tech tree. Yes. There is enough candidates.

 

Premiums I am hoping for:

T34 mit. 8.8cm

Rheinmetall Skorpion G

E10

Kanonenjagdpanzer

Revalorise or however it is spelled

Panzer 58 Mutz

STA-2

Lorraine 40T

Zrinyi I/II

Turan III

AMX 13 57

STG

T26E5

M56 Scorpion

and the Stug IV just because it's cool

 

The WZ 111, Chieftain T95, LekPz M41 90mm, T-44-100, and Type 64 are all on the way. 

What do you propose? Not being mean-genuinely curious...


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View Post_Maho_Nishizumi_212, on 03 October 2017 - 04:19 AM, said:

I would like to see an Italian tank. Maybe the P.40? From GuP. Withthe anime skin and name an option so those who have anime PTSD are not offended. Just a thought...

 

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View Post_Maho_Nishizumi_212, on 03 October 2017 - 02:43 PM, said:

What do you propose? Not being mean-genuinely curious...

 

The Medium Line

One good thing: the Italians love gun depression.

These are the guns they were really equipped with, but we all know that WG mounts incorrect modules for balancing purposes all the time(Tiger I getting the L/71. KV-1 getting the 85mm, etc.), so the top gun(s) could be altered if necessary.

X: Leopardino :

The Lion (initially called “Leopardino”;) was born as a new export tank suited for desert regions and hot climates. The tank was requested to the Italian OTO Melara and the German Krauss-Maffei by some Middle Eastern countries. Due to legal problems in Germany, the German society could not export such weapons to countries that were not part of the NATO. And OTO Melara, despite its license for building the Leopard 1A1, could not produce more than 600 pieces exclusively for the Italian Army. The two societies decided to cooperate, with the tank’s components being produced 50% in Italy and 50% in Germany. But the final assembly and commercialization was assigned to OTO Melara to overcome the German legal problems. The chassis was the same of the Leopard 1A1, while the turret developed by OTO Melara was a totally different one. The fist prototype was completed in 1977, the series production was planned for the following year. The Lion's engine, tracks, suspension system and transmission were extremely suited for the terrain on which it was intended to operate. But the project was later abandoned in favor of its evolution, the OF-40.

 

So basically an Italian Leopard 1 with a redesigned turret and mantlet that can actually bounce a few shots. The trade off should probably be a bit less gun handling, DPM, and view range. There is also a bit of spaced armor over the top portion of the tracks like the Centurion tanks so it's not as easy to HE.

Armor: 70mm, 35mm, 25mm. Turret: ????

Armament: 105mm Cannone OTO Melara 105/51

Dep/Elev: -9/+20

 

IX: Carro Armato M47 105/51 mod. 1968:

Basically just an M7 Patton with minor modifications. Italy used them more than another other foreign nation. Sure this one is pretty much a clone, but that's not a new concept in WOT. The Chinese tree in WOT PC has plenty of foreign designs. It's just one tier, and this time period is pretty sparse for Italian armor design. The specs would have some differences, I just don't know what exactly.

Armor: 101mm, 76mm, 50mm, Turret: 101mm, 76mm, 76mm.

Armament: 105mm Royal Ordnance L7A3

Dep/Elev: -10/+19

 

VIII: P34/43:

The P34/43 was developed by Fiat and Ansaldo together with the P26/40 and the P34/43. Its planned armament was a 90mm gun, while the armor had a maximum thickness 100mm. Only 1 wooden mockup was built in 1943. Its characteristic made it comparable to the heavy tanks produced in the same period by Germany and the USSR. 

The heaviest, and most original/improved of the three P43 design proposals which improved on the P40. So on paper, it looks similar to the Panther II. Same upper plate thickness, similar caliber gun. Looks good to me. The lower profile on this design looks nice.

Armor: 100mm, 60mm, 50mm. Turret: 100mm, 60mm, 50mm.

Armament: 90mm Cannone 90/44

Dep/Elev: -6/+20 This is the only one that has bad GD, but it's because of the lower silhouette. Good trade off I suppose.

 

VII: P30/43:

The P30/43 was developed by Fiat and Ansaldo together with the P26/40 and the P34/43, it had to be armed with the same 75mm gun of the P40, have a better engine and better armor. Only 1 wooden mockup was built in 1943.

The lightest of the three P43 design proposals which improved on the P40 desing. The last one will be a premium.

Armor - Hull: 80mm, 50mm, 40mm. Turret: 80mm, 50mm, 40mm. 

Armament - 75mm Cannone Breda M39 L34 75/34

Dep/Elev: -10/+23

 

VI: P26/40: 

The P26/40 was developed to face the new Allied medium tanks and replace the outclassed old Italian design in the defense of the peninsula. It is the best tank produced in series by Italy during the war. The vehicle was designed after studying a captured T-34, this resulted in a modern sloped armor and a powerful 75mm gun being installed on the tank. The first tanks were put in service too late, in 1943, and most of them were captured in fabric when the Germans invaded Italy. But the production was not stopped and around 100 of them were built until the end of the war.
Italy's best tank design to get produced in the war.

Armor: Hull - 50mm, 45mm, 40mm. Turret - 60mm, 45mm, 40mm.

Armament: 75mm Cannone Breda 75/34 M39 L/34

Depression/elevation: -10/+23

 

V:  P40 75/18:

The P40 75/18 was one of the prototypes that led to the production of the P26/40. It was armed with the same gun used on the successful Semovente 75/18 and its armor design was similar to the M series tank. Just 1 prototype was completed and tested in 1941.

So a prototype version with thinner armor and no slope.

Armor: 40mm, 35mm, 30mm. Turret: 40mm, 35mm, 30mm.

Armament: 75mm Cannone L18 75/18

Dep/Elev: -10/+23

 

 

IV: M15/42:

The M15/42 was the last evolution of the M13/40 medium tank. Entered in service in 1943 and retired in the 50s it was used by the Regio Esercito, the Wehrmacht, the National Republican Army and  after the war by the Italian Army. The tank was built as a temporary solution to face Allied tanks due to the delays in the development and production of the new Italian heavy tanks (P26/40 and derivates). The armament, armor and engine were significantly improved and this resulted in increased penetration, protection and speed. The tank fought in Italy and outside the peninsula with the German Wehrmacht for all the war.

The tank chassis was used to built the M15/42 Carro Contraereo anti-aircraft vehicle and the Ansaldo 105/25 M.43 self-propelled gun. A number between 80 and 290 tanks were built during the war.

Armor: 45mm, 25mm, 25mm. Turret: 30mm, 25mm, 25mm.

Armament: 47mm Cannone 47/40 mod.38

Dep/Elev: -10/+20

 

 

III: M14/41 / M13/40 (Either one or a mashup of the two. They are incredibly similar)

The M14/41 was an improved version of the famous Fiat-Ansaldo M13/40. It entered in service in 1941, and fought in North Africa and later in Italy until the end of the hostilities. The armament was the same of its predecessor, a 47mm gun and three 8mm Breda machine guns. Several minor modifications were applied to the vehicle, but the real improvement was the new more powerful engine. Esthetically, it was almost identical to the M13/40. Around 750 M14/41s were built

The Fiat-Ansaldo M13/40 is the most produced Italian Medium Tank of World War II. It entered in service in 1940 and was deployed in the war against Greece, Yugoslavia and during the North African Campaign. Its chassis was also used for one of the most successful Italian vehicles of WWII, the self-propelled gun Semovente 75/18. Armed with a 47 mm L/32 gun mounted in the turret and three 8mm machine guns it was a big improvement over it’s predecessor, the M11/39, and could face most of the British tanks it encountered during the early stages of the North African Campaign. But it still had limitations, mainly in the armor and the engine.These limitation will be partially solved with the later introduction of the improved M14/41 and M15/42. A total of around 1500 M13/40s were built during the war.

This tank(s) would be one of the most usable for historical reenactment battles.

Armor: 30mm, 25mm, 25mm . Turret: 37mm, 25mm, 25mm. or 30mm, 25mm, 25mm.

Armament: 47mm Cannone 47/32 mod.1935

Dep/Elev: -15/+25 or -10/+20

 

II: L6/40:

The first prototype of the L6/40 was produced by Ansaldo in 1938 and the definitive production version was introduced in 1939. It was based on a modified L3/33 chassis large enough for two men, the driver and the gunner-tank commander, a large quantity of ammunitions and a SPA 18D engine with 4 cylinders, capable of generating a speed of 42 km/h. The turret could rotate at 360 degrees, the guns, designed for both ground and anti-air warfare were a Breda 20mm gun and a 8mm machine gun placed in the turret. The armor was between 6 and 30 mm. The tank, used by the Ariete and Littorio Divisions, fought in North Africa until the surrender of the Axis troops in Tunisia. In Russia, with the CSIR and later the ARMIR, and in the Balkans against the Yugoslavian Partisans. After 8th September 1943 part of them was captured by the Germans and used during the defense of Italy. A consistent number of them was destroyed while defending Rome from the advancing German Army.

Armor: 30mm, 15mm, 15mm. Turret: 40mm, 15mm, 15mm.

Armament: 20mm autocannon Cannone 20/65 Breda mod.35

Dep/Elev: -12/+20

 

I: L5/30:

The Fiat 3000 was the first tank produced in series in Italy and was supposed to equip the Italian Army at the end of World War I. The development of this project started in 1918 on the base of the French FT-17, but the many modifications made it better than the original tank. The Fiat 3000 entered in service in 1921, with the name of Carro d’Assalto Fiat 3000 Mod.21. In 1929 a new version with an improved engine, armament and mobility was built. This new version entered in service in 1930 as the Mod.30, renamed L5/30 at the beginning of WWII. When Italy declared war on France and Britain in 1940 some of them were in Albania, other on the Italo-French border were used  to attack the French fortified position on the Alps. In 1943, when the Allies laded in Sicily the tank was still in service in two companies. One of them was destroyed on the 10th July 1943 during a counterattack of the Livorno Division to retake Gela. This tanks became quickly obsolete and was retired to service too late, only when it was hopelessly outdated.

Armor: 16mm, 10mm, 10mm. Turret: 16mm, 16mm, 16mm.

Armament: 37mm Cannone L.40 37/40 Vickers-Terni

Dep/Elev: -10/+20

 

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VII or VIII: P35/40 Pantera:

There were plans to obtain a license from their German allies to produce their own Panzer V Panther tanks in Italy, much like the Tiger plans with the Japanese, but wars do not always go as planned and these plans fell through because of the armistice. Sources are discordant as to whether the tank was to be a small, lightweight Panther, or a "copy" tank equipped with an experimental phase Italian engine and a 90/53 cannon. So yea. they could go either way with this one, but. Italian Panther with 90mm. Sounds cool to me.

 

IV or V: M16/43 (Carro Armato M Celere Sahariano):

The M16/43 or Carro Armato M Celere Sahariano was the project for a new tank to be used in the desert of Libya and Egypt. Only 1 prototype was ever built. Unlike the other Italian medium tanks it was equipped with the Christie suspension system and the engine allowed it to reach 60 km/h. The prototype was armed with the same 47mm gun used on the M15/42, but the production vehicle was planned to be equipped with a 75mm gun. The loss of Libya and the development of the P40 heavy tank resulted in the abandonment of the project.

So this thing is basically an Italian Crusader. Looks like one too. They figured out Christie suspension by reverse engineering it from captured British cruiser tanks. I was going to put it in the line, but it's just so different from everything else in it, I decided against it. The tier would depend on which gun they gave it I guess. The 47mm or the 75mm. I read another source that said a 57mm was considered as well. And one of my favorite tank sources says a top speed of 71km/hr was achieved during trials, and others like the one I cited earlier say 60. So. Could be fun with any gun as long as it's balanced correctly. 

 

So there you have it. A whole Italian line. With premiums. There's enough for a td line(Which also have great gun depression. Most of them -12), but I just don't feel like it at this time. This took a while.


Edited by Chariot_Solace, 04 October 2017 - 03:40 PM.

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View Postalexcnsf, on 03 October 2017 - 01:53 PM, said:

 

I heard that the chieftan t95 event got cancelled along with the russian meduim tier 8 and the german bulldog. U can view what tanks are coming into the game later by checking was tanks you can use for missions and then selecting not only in garage. the cheiftan is there but I thought people said it was cancelled from the update 4.3 or 4.4

 

Yea they're all in there on the mission screen. They were supposed to come around the Blitz Treasures event, but canceled. Someone else said they will probably be part of a Black Friday sale this year and that makes sense, so that's what I'm expecting.

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