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Si1verBlood #1041 Posted 31 August 2019 - 04:50 PM

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View PostAngel_Lahoz, on 31 August 2019 - 11:43 AM, said:

I don’t have time right now for your [edited]crap. The only two or three guys who defend wargamint

We do not defend WG, we ridicule your attempt to make a valid argument.

Talking Garbage is always interesting to watch.

 

 

 

 


Angel_Lahoz #1042 Posted 31 August 2019 - 07:53 PM

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It’s not a valid argument? Come on, man. So it’s not a valid argument , to show how a vast majority of battles are clearly out of balance against the teams I play. Either by having more times noobs of 30-40% or players with few experienced battles played. As I will demonstrate when I finish scrutinizing all the battles to publish

 

ridicule people who can play at the level that other players see on the field as I have seen, demonstrates the kind of people who are the two or three types of always , who defend that wargamint makes a fair balance of percentage teams and battles played , for everyone alike

If you are right after counting all the data, I will agree. But if not, if there are scandal data as I am seeing in a sampling, I will tell you .... please look .... 70% or 80% ( what the data says ) of the battles are clearly decomposed in favor of red. Then, of course, I won’t keep quiet, but not just here. But let’s do it right with hundreds or thousands of battles, don’t say it’s a streak just everyone finds noobs etc etc

Besides, I’ll say again ... where the supposed random game is

 


Edited by Angel_Lahoz, 31 August 2019 - 08:54 PM.


Angel_Lahoz #1043 Posted 31 August 2019 - 10:09 PM

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Well then I leave the chat here. The work will be expensive for a few weeks until I get to do everything. And it will prove or not what I say. Until then , I said it, the reason for you. And at the same time be playing well. Incidentally, right from today, with 4 and 5 destroyed by many battles and good numbers.

 

!! oysters!! Holy bikini !! I must have been possessed

 

https://vimeo.com/us...3120/33b2c61ea7

 

Jajaa

 

But come on!! I already anticipate that you will be filled with glory as all or most battles are so.... We are even talking about Tier 3.

 

Team red 

Average all equipo wr : 47% 

Average Battles played 9500

 

Team green 

Average all team wr : 43%

Average Battles played 3100 

Barbarian !!

 

Some players....

Team red 

Thanospaoki4 ,  pz III 

Dummiderbeste , Cruiser III 

Greiggy , M5 Stuart 

Daco51 , Su-76 i 

 

Team green 

Comandante_cr7 , amx38

player 4452710689 , Chi-ha

Player 6553030564 , M3 Stuart

 


Edited by Angel_Lahoz, 31 August 2019 - 10:58 PM.


_ImUrHuckleberry #1044 Posted 01 September 2019 - 06:18 AM

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Ho Kogan!

SpartacusDiablo #1045 Posted 01 September 2019 - 10:47 AM

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Just checked.  I've ran 61% win rate over the past 290 battles.  Yup totally rigged against me.

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SpartacusDiablo #1046 Posted 01 September 2019 - 01:10 PM

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View Post_ImUrHuckleberry, on 31 August 2019 - 04:55 AM, said:

 

 

SD, you're snoozing on the job. You were explicitly hired to corral those who will not be mentioned.

 

BTW, Wargarmint?! This guy reminds me of another dude that had trouble with big words:

 

 

It's just exhausting at this point.  If players want to think it's rigged against them then so be it.¯\_(ツ)_/¯


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Si1verBlood #1047 Posted 01 September 2019 - 01:39 PM

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View PostSpartacusDiablo, on 01 September 2019 - 05:47 AM, said:

Just checked. I've ran 61% win rate over the past 290 battles. Yup totally rigged against me.

WG loves you so they give you good teams diablo...stop lying to yourself....your skill means nothing when it comes to winning games



SpartacusDiablo #1048 Posted 01 September 2019 - 05:29 PM

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View PostSi1verBlood, on 01 September 2019 - 08:39 AM, said:

WG loves you so they give you good teams diablo...stop lying to yourself....your skill means nothing when it comes to winning games

Not my fault I'm lovable.


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SpartacusDiablo #1049 Posted 01 September 2019 - 06:59 PM

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This works for the forum as well.


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Mako__Reizei___ #1050 Posted 01 September 2019 - 11:30 PM

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Yeah... MM is wild the past week, I encountered a Mäuschen with under 1,000 battles and 43% winrate a few days ago on the enemy team. This is one of the few times that I actually felt sorry for the enemy team and wished that the low skill level downvote was a thing (only when downvoting enemy players to prevent abuse).

Must. Have. 60%. Winrate. Under. 0.5%. Platoon. Rate!!! (30 day)

 

I have 11k WN8 and 2.5k WN7 on my Leichtraktor (Player_81214765456 of the DAMGE clan). Not sure if I should be proud of this...


Gregarioun #1051 Posted 05 September 2019 - 05:02 PM

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Ok I posted under a different thread, but there seems to be an easy way to balance teams a little further.  Once the initial matchmaking is done, there should be a second balancing of the teams based on winrates and number of battles fought.  Because the tanks types are already matched and etc., it should be relatively simple to switch out players from both teams to their corresponding tank niche so you get as close as possible to a 'numerically' balanced battle roster.  

 

Too many times I end up seeing teams with 4 >%55 10k+ players on one side and everyone but me negative on my side, or vice versa.  In the long run it seems to work out for me but I'm sick of losing streaks/winning streaks.  I don't want to fight wash battles the majority of the time.  


Wot Blitz is kinda like Heroin...except theres rehab for Heroin.

oldman1500 #1052 Posted 12 September 2019 - 03:09 AM

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To all the people who say MM is random Please take the time to read the article on this website about RNG.  WOT is most likely using Pseudo Random Number Generators which are repeatable and predictable. True RNG are too costly time wise to be used in most computer games. So while MM is not rigged against anybody, it is possible tp predict winners and losers or have winning and losing streaks.. https://www.random.org/randomness/

EL_Din_46 #1053 Posted 13 September 2019 - 04:40 AM

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View Postoldman1500, on 11 September 2019 - 07:09 PM, said:

To all the people who say MM is random Please take the time to read the article on this website about RNG.  WOT is most likely using Pseudo Random Number Generators which are repeatable and predictable. True RNG are too costly time wise to be used in most computer games. So while MM is not rigged against anybody, it is possible tp predict winners and losers or have winning and losing streaks.. https://www.random.org/randomness/

 

Not quite. To identify the period you would need access to every number the PRNG generates. When you see it begin to repeat you would know the period. At that point you need access to the number that is being generated this very instant. With that and the historical information you could predict the number that would generated in the very next instance. 

 

Doing that would be impossible for you and I. We don’t have that access.  With, lets say, 10 different battles and 140 players all needing numbers the very next number generated might not be in your battle. And even if you could do those things the PRNG might be good enough to have a period longer than the time in which you will be playing the game. Solve that problem and you are left with those 140 players each making unpredictable decisions about whether they need a number this milli-second or not.  Although we don’t know how good of a PRNG WG uses it is likely to be good enough in practice for us. For us, if it looks random and acts random then it might as well be random.

 

Winning and losing streaks are not, by themselves, proof that randomness doesn’t exist. Chaos obeys no laws, including any laws against being orderly — for a while. But WG does things that are not random and do affect how often people win and lose. New players in tier 1 don’t play against veterans, for example. Whether what they have done is good or bad for the game is a different argument.


Edited by EL_Din_46, 13 September 2019 - 04:52 AM.

 

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___ez_e___ #1054 Posted 23 September 2019 - 10:26 PM

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You know I discovered that some people still are really playing a different game.  

 

I ran into clan that was platooning in tier X.  No big deal, right.  Ok

 

Their whole goal was to constantly block everyone on green. 

 

We got slaughtered.  It was nuts.   Seems to be a game to them though.

 

I didn't realized this nonsense still goes on.  I haven’t  run into this all year until now.  


Edited by ___ez_e___, 23 September 2019 - 10:27 PM.


Angel_Lahoz #1055 Posted 26 September 2019 - 01:45 PM

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The report is on track. I hope to have it finished in early October.Random randomization does not exist. I am discovering the pattern wargamint uses. With what they cannot defend the random chaos that some say.It is a very extensive and complete study report that I will try to summarize as much as possible and with as few links as possible. The "good thing" is that the thing is not there ..How is the wotblitz system against greens a real shame, I am going to invest a significant amount of money in spreading this falsehood by all the networks that are dedicated to arrive 

I will invest a significant amount of money in disseminating this report in the networks dedicated to disseminating 

To the maximum possible public. Good afternoon, see you in October.


Edited by Angel_Lahoz, 26 September 2019 - 01:51 PM.


SpartacusDiablo #1056 Posted 26 September 2019 - 02:14 PM

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Oh good.  I can't wait to see what you deliver.

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___ez_e___ #1057 Posted 01 October 2019 - 12:09 PM

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I’m predicting confirmation bias on his results. 

SpartacusDiablo #1058 Posted 01 October 2019 - 11:21 PM

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View Post___ez_e___, on 01 October 2019 - 07:09 AM, said:

I’m predicting confirmation bias on his results. 

That's just your confirmation bias speaking.


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Angel_Lahoz #1059 Posted 02 October 2019 - 01:23 PM

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But it is me  ___ez_e___ I don't care what they say here. In fact I will leave the link that I already have prepared and the cover and I will focus on the translation and publication by several sites.

I will make it a little more extensive because it is worth it and I am with video promotion sites. I hope to have it in a week or so ready


Edited by Angel_Lahoz, 02 October 2019 - 01:25 PM.


godzilla5599_warrior #1060 Posted 03 October 2019 - 12:40 PM

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I've been playing this game since 2016 so I think my opinion should count for something even if you disagree with me...

 

Simply put the MM,RNG,and connection issues are a bit too consistent to be considered "random" and it's plain obvious that the game IS manipulated which is normal however where we run into problems is it's so badly done as to be annoying and punishing enough that it's not enjoyable....mind you do get a wonderful game every so often but you have to go through hell for 40-60-70 games to get there so it's not worth it.

 

I'm just not playing much and swing through un-installing and reinstalling the game every week or so and honestly my goal is to just stop when my year of premium runs out in Dec.

 

This whole thing is a waste of time,a distraction and nothing more and not even a good well made one.






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