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Hye_yeon_Cho #1481 Posted 30 September 2020 - 04:13 PM

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View PostCommanderSean_2014, on 30 September 2020 - 03:23 AM, said:

Just love when a stock kv3 gets matched up against a smasher.

Or a is3 against a 252u

I have is3 and it can destroy 252us just fine



whatzup22 #1482 Posted 30 September 2020 - 10:37 PM

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View PostHye_yeon_Cho, on 01 October 2020 - 12:13 AM, said:

I have is3 and it can destroy 252us just fine

No one asked


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View Postwhatzup22, on 30 September 2020 - 05:37 PM, said:

No one asked


But you made a totally useless point. 
  Which was addressed.  
 

252U is very strong against players who don’t understand how to beat it.   They don’t worry me at all, because I know how to exploit it. 
 

As for stock tanks - many of us ‘grew up’ in +/-2 where being stock was significantly worse especially in tier 5/6, which was +2/-1. 
  Also until you have had to look at an Obj 140 and Maus in a stock Pershing, you don’t understand what it’s like to be totally outclassed and outgunned. 
 

 

MM currently is way better than it was, simply because we don’t get the huge tier mismatches that where fairly common on +/-2

  Red 5xX, 2x9,  Green 2x9, 5x8.    That is down 10 tiers - and it happened several times - and yes sometimes I was the team with the X overload. 
 


 

 

  


 

 
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whatzup22 #1484 Posted 01 October 2020 - 02:04 AM

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View Post_Crusader6_, on 01 October 2020 - 08:15 AM, said:


But you made a totally useless point. 
  Which was addressed.  
 

252U is very strong against players who don’t understand how to beat it.   They don’t worry me at all, because I know how to exploit it. 
 

As for stock tanks - many of us ‘grew up’ in +/-2 where being stock was significantly worse especially in tier 5/6, which was +2/-1. 
  Also until you have had to look at an Obj 140 and Maus in a stock Pershing, you don’t understand what it’s like to be totally outclassed and outgunned. 
 

 

MM currently is way better than it was, simply because we don’t get the huge tier mismatches that where fairly common on +/-2

  Red 5xX, 2x9,  Green 2x9, 5x8.    That is down 10 tiers - and it happened several times - and yes sometimes I was the team with the X overload. 
 


 

 

  

I had been against Tier Xs in my T-44, I know how it feels. Its painful to still see red unless you spam prammo, which was a waste of credits. 

Yes, MM is way better now despite still being flaws. 

But at least, now that I have T-54, Mauses and Entwicklungs are easier to fight



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The kv5 really seems worthy for preferencial matchmaking, it is just a hitpoint pinata at teir 9.

 

one of the good things about this tank is the side armor, but you cant sidescrape with it because it has boobs :P


I want to bring my pet teir 2 to teir 10 one more time 


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View Postthenerfdude, on 02 October 2020 - 03:07 AM, said:

The kv5 really seems worthy for preferencial matchmaking, it is just a hitpoint pinata at teir 9.

 

one of the good things about this tank is the side armor, but you cant sidescrape with it because it has boobs :P


Drive backwards... 
 


 

 
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thenerfdude #1487 Posted 04 October 2020 - 10:58 AM

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Please remove random matchmaking, I am so tried with these noobs :angry: 

and ratings starts at 23:00 for me so i can barely play it :rolleyes:

 

 


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_Crusader6_ #1488 Posted 07 October 2020 - 06:10 PM

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View Postthenerfdude, on 04 October 2020 - 05:58 AM, said:

Please remove random matchmaking, I am so tried with these noobs :angry: 

and ratings starts at 23:00 for me so i can barely play it :rolleyes:

 

 


Random MM is what allows you to be annoyed with less efficient players.  
   It benefits better players as you will always have a 60%’er on your team - and red won’t always.  
 

Rated battles are a total cluster as too many tiers are allowed and WG doesn’t give ratings / tier, and the ‘season’ is so short. 
 


 

 
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So what is the deal with MM of late?  Is the server pop that low in regular and ratings that we are being matched up with people who have less than 5k battles almost every battle and several of them on each side to boot?  This is even more annoying than being matched up with 40%er who have 6k+ battles.  My WR is plummeting to point I almost....almost don't care anymore about it and I am going to be one of those people who simply says "it's just a game bro" on each loss...

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View PostBellatormonk, on 09 October 2020 - 09:18 PM, said:

So what is the deal with MM of late?  Is the server pop that low in regular and ratings that we are being matched up with people who have less than 5k battles almost every battle and several of them on each side to boot?  This is even more annoying than being matched up with 40%er who have 6k+ battles.  My WR is plummeting to point I almost....almost don't care anymore about it and I am going to be one of those people who simply says "it's just a game bro" on each loss...


1) It is just a Game. 
2) Carry Harder. 
 


 

 
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CommanderSean_2014 #1491 Posted 11 October 2020 - 05:42 PM

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View Post_Crusader6_, on 01 October 2020 - 12:15 AM, said:


But you made a totally useless point. 
  Which was addressed.  
 

252U is very strong against players who don’t understand how to beat it.   They don’t worry me at all, because I know how to exploit it. 
 

As for stock tanks - many of us ‘grew up’ in +/-2 where being stock was significantly worse especially in tier 5/6, which was +2/-1. 
  Also until you have had to look at an Obj 140 and Maus in a stock Pershing, you don’t understand what it’s like to be totally outclassed and outgunned. 
 

 

MM currently is way better than it was, simply because we don’t get the huge tier mismatches that where fairly common on +/-2

  Red 5xX, 2x9,  Green 2x9, 5x8.    That is down 10 tiers - and it happened several times - and yes sometimes I was the team with the X overload. 
 


 

 

  

I do remember the pain that u get from +2-2mm

Tho its hugely rewarding if your tip tier lol

P.s.I still remember getting smshed by a kv5 in my stock kv1s.... don't remind me


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joes1500 #1492 Posted 13 October 2020 - 04:32 PM

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First thing I want to say is I don't think MM is biased for or against anyone.  I don't think it is rigged in any way.  What I do think is There are more nubs than ever in this game that don't care squat about WR or any other stat and are playing in tanks way above their competence.  Evident is how many players I have seen with approximately 100 battles driving tier 5 or 6, players with less than a 1000 battles driving all the way up to tier 8 premiums.  I have not had a winning day in 3 weeks.  I am either the first or second to get killed because the team has no idea of what they are doing and sit there until they get shot at, or even worse commit to a line of attack then abruptly change direction or start camping, or I am 1st or second high scorer.

 

My main ID is a 47 and change WR.  My rerolls are 52 and 56.  I am not a great player but, I can usually hold my own.  I can carry some battles but definitely not all.  Telling people to carry harder is just plain bullsh*t.

 

The game has had these same problems from the first day I started playing but, they seem so much more amplified since the start of the pandemic.  So many people with so much time on their hands makes it inevitable that the game gets a rash of new players.  They are just trying to play a fun game and that is understandable.  However it is turning off a lot of the long time players.  I played today for the first time in two weeks.  Won 2 lost 5.  Came in top 2 four, top 3 once, and low twice.

 

The game needs an adjustment in MM not because it is rigged but, because the game has ceased to be fun and challenging.  ( I say challenging because losing constantly is NOT a challenge.)

 

I would offer a suggestion that in my experience would probably help.  Besides tier 1, don't allow a player to progress to a higher tier than the number of battles in thousands that he/she has played.  Tier 4 player needs 4000 battles, tier 5 - 5K. etc;.

 

Well I don't think anything will change and I will probably be told to "Carry Harder" so I will just quit playing for a while, again, and keep my money in the checking account instead of  spending it on the game.  Just wanted to rant.


Edited by joes1500, 13 October 2020 - 04:35 PM.


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View Postjoes1500, on 13 October 2020 - 11:32 AM, said:

First thing I want to say is I don't think MM is biased for or against anyone.  I don't think it is rigged in any way.  What I do think is There are more nubs than ever in this game that don't care squat about WR or any other stat and are playing in tanks way above their competence.  Evident is how many players I have seen with approximately 100 battles driving tier 5 or 6, players with less than a 1000 battles driving all the way up to tier 8 premiums.  I have not had a winning day in 3 weeks.  I am either the first or second to get killed because the team has no idea of what they are doing and sit there until they get shot at, or even worse commit to a line of attack then abruptly change direction or start camping, or I am 1st or second high scorer.

 

My main ID is a 47 and change WR.  My rerolls are 52 and 56.  I am not a great player but, I can usually hold my own.  I can carry some battles but definitely not all.  Telling people to carry harder is just plain bullsh*t.

 

The game has had these same problems from the first day I started playing but, they seem so much more amplified since the start of the pandemic.  So many people with so much time on their hands makes it inevitable that the game gets a rash of new players.  They are just trying to play a fun game and that is understandable.  However it is turning off a lot of the long time players.  I played today for the first time in two weeks.  Won 2 lost 5.  Came in top 2 four, top 3 once, and low twice.

 

The game needs an adjustment in MM not because it is rigged but, because the game has ceased to be fun and challenging.  ( I say challenging because losing constantly is NOT a challenge.)

 

I would offer a suggestion that in my experience would probably help.  Besides tier 1, don't allow a player to progress to a higher tier than the number of battles in thousands that he/she has played.  Tier 4 player needs 4000 battles, tier 5 - 5K. etc;.

 

Well I don't think anything will change and I will probably be told to "Carry Harder" so I will just quit playing for a while, again, and keep my money in the checking account instead of  spending it on the game.  Just wanted to rant.


There are players with over 70k games that don't know how to play -- 

     I ran into a 6k battle 69% WR player in tier 8, he had 342 average dmg overall...    -- he played mostly tier 1-3 and shot exclusively HE in an Emil I, he has a 32% WR in tier 8, and 460 avg dmg...

 

 


 

 
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MRIGGS2345 #1494 Posted 14 October 2020 - 03:00 PM

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I've seen worse games recently too in tiers 5-8, but I'd guess only about 1/4 is due to low battle counts as it is polar extreme players.  I'm assuming there's a combination of new Nintendo switch players coming some of which may have quit before and be picking it back up, as well as people going back down tiers to grind the new line.  Most games recently are lacking the majority "average" player base and have very low (35-43%) WR & very low avg. (300-500) dmg combined with unicum or near unicum players.  Depending how the lineup shakes out it makes for some very quick games.  I think/hope it'll get better in time though.  Good time to play if you're one of those who can carry.

Hye_yeon_Cho #1495 Posted 15 October 2020 - 12:24 AM

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View Postwhatzup22, on 30 September 2020 - 10:37 PM, said:

No one asked

Commander Sean did.

"Or an is3 against a 252"

(Or something along the lines of that)



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View Post_Crusader6_, on 02 October 2020 - 06:44 AM, said:


Drive backwards... 
 

Are you being serious or sarcastic?

 

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Hye_yeon_Cho #1497 Posted 19 October 2020 - 04:51 PM

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View PostTexas_Tyrant, on 19 October 2020 - 11:04 AM, said:

Are you being serious or sarcastic?

 

Yeehaw,

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I didn't make that post, but I think it was about the KV-5. And it's true, you can drive backwards in the kv5 because it still has good rear armor and there are no weakspots.



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View PostTexas_Tyrant, on 19 October 2020 - 06:04 AM, said:

Are you being serious or sarcastic?

 

Yeehaw,

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Serious.  When it first came out and the R2D2’s where way weaker, the Unicum method use to be drive backwards.  
  It was then tougher to pen.    It was very awkward to do, at least to do well, but it worked. 
 


 

 
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Hye_yeon_Cho #1499 Posted 19 October 2020 - 10:25 PM

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View Post_Crusader6_, on 19 October 2020 - 07:38 PM, said:


Serious.  When it first came out and the R2D2’s where way weaker, the Unicum method use to be drive backwards.  
  It was then tougher to pen.    It was very awkward to do, at least to do well, but it worked. 
 

Oh. The "R2D2" like weakspots are pretty horrific, but I just went in Blitz hangar and found that the rear is even thinner than the weakspots. I don't think it's worth it anymore.

 



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View PostHye_yeon_Cho, on 19 October 2020 - 10:25 PM, said:

Oh. The "R2D2" like weakspots are pretty horrific, but I just went in Blitz hangar and found that the rear is even thinner than the weakspots. I don't think it's worth it anymore.

 

Duh,it got buffed a while back.


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