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_Crusader6_ #1541 Posted 31 December 2020 - 02:42 PM

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View Postdangerousdan26, on 30 December 2020 - 08:18 PM, said:

The matchmaker sucks


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dangerousdan26 #1542 Posted 31 December 2020 - 07:31 PM

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Matchmaking in Gravity is bad

I play my tier 7 quite a bit in Gravity but in 9 out of 10 games, I am low tier in a tier 8 game.  Yes, I have actually counted them!

I suspect MM does this because there are too few tier 6 and 7s playing Gravity.

What's especially disappointing is the large number of those fat VK tier 8s playing.  My Smasher doesn't pen them and they just roll ahead.  There is no skill playing those and I think it ruins the game.

I care not whether you agree.  I am just putting this out there.

PS I still enjoy Gravity.  Many credits and no affect on WR.  With low gravity, they are fun


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j_rod #1543 Posted 31 December 2020 - 07:38 PM

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View Postdangerousdan26, on 31 December 2020 - 01:31 PM, said:

Matchmaking in Gravity is bad

I play my tier 7 quite a bit in Gravity but in 9 out of 10 games, I am low tier in a tier 8 game.  Yes, I have actually counted them!

I suspect MM does this because there are too few tier 6 and 7s playing Gravity.

What's especially disappointing is the large number of those fat VK tier 8s playing.  My Smasher doesn't pen them and they just roll ahead.  There is no skill playing those and I think it ruins the game.

I care not whether you agree.  I am just putting this out there.

PS I still enjoy Gravity.  Many credits and no affect on WR.  With low gravity, they are fun


It’s gravity mode... seriously who gives a [tomato]?


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CommanderSean_2014 #1544 Posted 23 January 2021 - 02:55 PM

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dangerousdan26 #1545 Posted 25 January 2021 - 06:42 PM

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Matchmaking really sucks.  I suspect it is not random.  Too many game completely lopsided (7-0, 0-7).

Why can't WOTB fix this algorithm.  Every player knows how screwed up MM is.  



j_rod #1546 Posted 25 January 2021 - 07:24 PM

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View Postdangerousdan26, on 25 January 2021 - 12:42 PM, said:

Matchmaking really sucks. Everyone is welcome to an opinion.  I suspect it is not random. Shouldn’t be too hard to provide some evidence then.  Too many game completely lopsided (7-0, 0-7). Lopsided games cannot be solved by matchmaking. One or two bad players that throw away their lives early is all it takes.

Why can't WOTB fix this algorithm. Question marks are your friend, but there’s nothing to be “fixed”.  Every player knows how screwed up MM is.  The vast majority of players that complain about MM are bad, you included. Your 60% winrate isn’t very impressive when one looks and realizes that you have zero games at tiers 9 & 10, and a sub 50% winrate at tier 8 with terrible stats. 

 

Responses above, but I can’t figure out if you’re just a troll or that dumb. Looking back at your posts, they are almost all whining posts about MM this or MM that while you continue to try to seal club to keep a decent winrate. The issue is that the game has left you behind and you can’t seal club like you used to and since you never actually learned real skills, you’re now suffering for it. 

 

You add no value to the game, nor to the forum. Go away.


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_Crusader6_ #1547 Posted 25 January 2021 - 09:50 PM

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View Postdangerousdan26, on 25 January 2021 - 01:42 PM, said:

Matchmaking really sucks.  I suspect it is not random.  Too many game completely lopsided (7-0, 0-7).

Why can't WOTB fix this algorithm.  Every player knows how screwed up MM is.  


I suspect you need to get better, you're struggling in low tiers (5-7), and 1,200 avg dmg in a Smasher is pretty awful -- It just may be a you issue.

 

 


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whatzup22 #1548 Posted 25 January 2021 - 10:17 PM

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We have it worse in Asia. The MM is just...damn. Because Asia has the weakest players, nearly every match will never be balanced, there wil always be a 7-0 or 0-7.
Just imagine this: a FEAST toon against a poor 34% player who cluelessly decided to purchase a tier X and an afk 'turret spinner".
Guess who won.

dangerousdan26 #1549 Posted 09 February 2021 - 05:39 AM

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Matchmaker just sucks period

_Crusader6_ #1550 Posted 09 February 2021 - 12:41 PM

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View Postdangerousdan26, on 09 February 2021 - 12:39 AM, said:

Most players  just suck period

Fixed it for you. 


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Kiwi_Kebab #1551 Posted 09 February 2021 - 07:17 PM

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What part of the matchmaker is the issue? 

 

The argument seems to come down to "the MM sucks because it makes game unfair", but no one really wants a fair MM do they? Where's the variety, the flavor? 

 

The MM works by tiers and tank class. What more do you want? 



j_rod #1552 Posted 09 February 2021 - 07:48 PM

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View PostKiwi_Kebab, on 09 February 2021 - 01:17 PM, said:

What part of the matchmaker is the issue? 

 

The argument seems to come down to "the MM sucks because it makes game unfair", but no one really wants a fair MM do they? Where's the variety, the flavor? 

 

The MM works by tiers and tank class. What more do you want? 


Very bad players removed from the queue and placed in their own special place. Failtoons removed entirely. No more MM considering platoons at all.


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dangerousdan26 #1553 Posted 10 February 2021 - 07:05 AM

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Matchmaker sucks

dangerousdan26 #1554 Posted 10 February 2021 - 07:10 AM

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Matchmaker sucks

j_rod #1555 Posted 10 February 2021 - 01:25 PM

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View Postdangerousdan26, on 10 February 2021 - 01:10 AM, said:

Matchmaker sucks


Looks like you’ve finally moved past tier 6 after 31k games. Trying to actually play tanks that have armor profiles and against decent players ain’t all that easy is it?


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_Crusader6_ #1556 Posted 10 February 2021 - 04:53 PM

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View Postdangerousdan26, on 10 February 2021 - 02:10 AM, said:

I am a bot 

 

Agreed. 


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Tackywheat1 #1557 Posted 10 February 2021 - 08:51 PM

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Kiwi_Kebab #1558 Posted 12 February 2021 - 02:57 AM

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View Postj_rod, on 09 February 2021 - 01:48 PM, said:


Very bad players removed from the queue and placed in their own special place. Failtoons removed entirely. No more MM considering platoons at all.

Now that I think about it, I wish players with a zero-star military honor could have their queue where they only fight other trolls.

 

But that might incentivize bad behavior... a shadow ban with an infinite queue time might be better. 



Bellatormonk #1559 Posted 21 February 2021 - 10:06 PM

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"We are aware of all MM issues and complaints (for example, my team is full of newbies and red team is full of pros). Some of you might remember that we had researched that earlier but couldn't find any solution. Now we have a separate team that focuses on MM. It's a very complicated task because first of all we have no right to ruin something that works fine."

 

 

Because having 10 matches in a row where at least 4 or more people on Green and Red in a match cant break 500 dmg in a T8 match.  Working as intended...like utter trash.  Literally matches these are won by 3 or less people scoring 2k+ dmg to carry each team win or lose.  But..it's..not broken...



j_rod #1560 Posted 21 February 2021 - 10:22 PM

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View PostBellatormonk, on 21 February 2021 - 04:06 PM, said:

"We are aware of all MM issues and complaints (for example, my team is full of newbies and red team is full of pros). Some of you might remember that we had researched that earlier but couldn't find any solution. Now we have a separate team that focuses on MM. It's a very complicated task because first of all we have no right to ruin something that works fine."

 

 

Because having 10 matches in a row where at least 4 or more people on Green and Red in a match cant break 500 dmg in a T8 match.  Working as intended...like utter trash.  Literally matches these are won by 3 or less people scoring 2k+ dmg to carry each team win or lose.  But..it's..not broken...


I agree with everything you say, but is it a MM issue or player base issue? Regardless, what’s the solution?


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