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wolfpack1941 #41 Posted 19 October 2017 - 04:11 PM

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Maybe I just don't understand BUT does the game get harder the more battles that we play? We have 2 accounts and if I play on the one that has over 1200 battles I win more games than when I play the account with over 10,000 battles. Playing the same 2 tanks (KV1 and T150)  the same day between 9 and 11 eastern. Played 8 games on small account won 6. Played 8 games on large account won 1. Its like I can't get over 50.55% win rate. I get up to 50.75 and now back to 50.55. I stay alive until the last with good damage and we still loose. I am an older guy so maybe I have reached my limit. The account with the smaller battles is still 55.56 WR so If I play anymore I will play that one. Would still like to play the other one . Maybe after the event is over.I guess a better tank match is the answer. You pro's know more about that. I wish you all good tanking. 

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View PostDoc_01_, on 18 October 2017 - 08:17 PM, said:

Please people sounds like your skill levels a suspect. Understanding the game Com’on man.

 

 

 

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You do not understand the game mechanics  - it is not MM related, it is strictly you -- your average damage in tier 9 - is slightly above my tier 5...

    After your tier 5 tanks, the wheels came off, and your not able to hold your own at all, and as a result drag your team down.

 

Everyone gets the same MM - with the exception I start off with an extra 60% player (me), and you start with 48% player (you).

 

 The ONLY way to win in this game is to carry more than your fair share.   Simply put, the vast amount of players cannot carry themselves, and need to be carried.

   

 


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Doc_01_ #43 Posted 19 October 2017 - 06:16 PM

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Exactly why everyone should play in identical tanks no upper hand with components, consumables or other modifying enhancements just plain stock tank. IE SKILL. Level playing field and make it where you earn your next tier tank, not buy into the next tier.

SpartacusDiablo #44 Posted 19 October 2017 - 06:24 PM

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View PostDoc_01_, on 19 October 2017 - 01:16 PM, said:

Exactly why everyone should play in identical tanks no upper hand with components, consumables or other modifying enhancements just plain stock tank. IE SKILL. Level playing field and make it where you earn your next tier tank, not buy into the next tier.

A. That sounds boring.

B. All these items are available to any player. What are you not getting about that?  Anyone can earn free XP. Anyone can earn gold.  Anyone can mount equipment, consumables, camo, etc.  A skilled player simply uses these items better.  

 

Stop looking for lame excuses to excuse your performance.

 

 


Edited by SpartacusDiablo, 19 October 2017 - 06:28 PM.

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Kiser_Sosei #45 Posted 19 October 2017 - 06:35 PM

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I wonder if WG will pay to use this Matchmaking patent?

 


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Doc_01_ #46 Posted 19 October 2017 - 06:44 PM

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So I guess after you get all the enhancements on a tank it becomes boring because you can not add to it anymore?

SpartacusDiablo #47 Posted 19 October 2017 - 06:47 PM

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View PostDoc_01_, on 19 October 2017 - 01:44 PM, said:

So I guess after you get all the enhancements on a tank it becomes boring because you can not add to it anymore?

Playing in identical tanks ≠ playing a fully equipped tank.

 

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NICKEL_AND_DIME #48 Posted 19 October 2017 - 06:56 PM

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View PostDoc_01_, on 19 October 2017 - 01:44 PM, said:

So I guess after you get all the enhancements on a tank it becomes boring because you can not add to it anymore?

 

Not in my case.  I find it plays better, and then I am hesitant to use the other tanks that lack the equipment enhancement.  So I just play that one a lot more, then switch to something less complete, then go back to the favorites.


Doc_01_ #49 Posted 19 October 2017 - 06:57 PM

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Not saying all 14 players would all be using same tank. What I am saying is that all M4 would be the same, all E75 would be the same.

__Crusader6__ #50 Posted 19 October 2017 - 07:08 PM

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View PostDoc_01_, on 19 October 2017 - 01:57 PM, said:

Not saying all 14 players would all be using same tank. What I am saying is that all M4 would be the same, all E75 would be the same.

The equipment system (though I really HATE 3.8 system) allows you to customize your tank to your play style.

   Pre 3.H8 I used a lot of cam nets and binos on certain light and Medium tanks to spot.   

 Post 3.H8 most equipment is predictable, so you get mostly cookie cutter tanks.

 

But I tend to agree that equipment should not have the significant bonuses that it does.

    I also believe that the 5% armor bonus should come with a equal loss in HP/Weight to make up for the weight of the armor.

 

 

 

 

 

 


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SpartacusDiablo #51 Posted 19 October 2017 - 07:36 PM

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View PostDoc_01_, on 19 October 2017 - 01:57 PM, said:

Not saying all 14 players would all be using same tank. What I am saying is that all M4 would be the same, all E75 would be the same.

Why? To what end? You'd still have players saying it's unfair that their M4 was put up against a T-34 because the T-34 has a faster ROF.  Or that the M4 is unfair because it can do hull down better.  It all comes down to skill and maximizing your tanks strengths against someone else's weakness to take the win.  That is what some players refuse to acknowledge. 

 

You are grasping at straws in your search for excuses.  

 

 


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__Seal__ #52 Posted 19 October 2017 - 08:47 PM

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View Postwolfpack1941, on 19 October 2017 - 04:11 PM, said:

Maybe I just don't understand BUT does the game get harder the more battles that we play? We have 2 accounts and if I play on the one that has over 1200 battles I win more games than when I play the account with over 10,000 battles. Playing the same 2 tanks (KV1 and T150)  the same day between 9 and 11 eastern. Played 8 games on small account won 6. Played 8 games on large account won 1. Its like I can't get over 50.55% win rate. I get up to 50.75 and now back to 50.55. I stay alive until the last with good damage and we still loose. I am an older guy so maybe I have reached my limit. The account with the smaller battles is still 55.56 WR so If I play anymore I will play that one. Would still like to play the other one . Maybe after the event is over.I guess a better tank match is the answer. You pro's know more about that. I wish you all good tanking. 

How is 8 battles valid? Also, you just admitted to violating the EULA-so you could get banned.


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wolfpack1941 #53 Posted 19 October 2017 - 09:02 PM

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View Post__Seal__, on 19 October 2017 - 03:47 PM, said:

How is 8 battles valid? Also, you just admitted to violating the EULA-so you could get banned.

 

LOL Right now I would not care. Even though another family member plays the other one also. Not saying its ok but some have more than 5 accounts. I have other notes on here about loses to matchmaking I am very discouraged. I have bad games but when I play best (1st or 2nd) we loose. Maybe you guys that have played a lot more can figure it out. Thing is you need to tell someone. 

SpartacusDiablo #54 Posted 19 October 2017 - 09:11 PM

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View Postwolfpack1941, on 19 October 2017 - 04:02 PM, said:

 

LOL Right now I would not care. Even though another family member plays the other one also. Not saying its ok but some have more than 5 accounts. I have other notes on here about loses to matchmaking I am very discouraged. I have bad games but when I play best (1st or 2nd) we loose. Maybe you guys that have played a lot more can figure it out. Thing is you need to tell someone. 

Doing raw damage at the end of the match is not enough to guarantee a win.  You have to position yourself in such a way that the damage you inflict on the reds is meaningful.  Killing a TD early for example.

 

I primarily play lights and mediums because I know how to position myself so that I have a spot from cover to inflict damage on the reds early on. More importantly I position myself in such a way that my team (God willing) is able to inflict damage on the reds as well.  If I catch the reds right I can keep them under fire while members of my team remain unspotted.  I can also lure red tanks back towards the green team.

 

I struggle to maximize my potential in heavies and tank destroyers.  I can play them okay but not like I play a light or medium.

 

It isn't just about doing top damage. It's about doing damage where it matters.  Killing a KV-2 or Death Star early will prevent them from unleashing all sorts of hell on your team.


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CA_vampire #55 Posted 20 October 2017 - 12:20 AM

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This could be resolved very easily if WG  explained to us how the MM works.

 

(Mind you: not how the MM does NOT work.)

 

 

 



CA_vampire #56 Posted 20 October 2017 - 12:24 AM

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View Postwolfpack1941, on 19 October 2017 - 09:11 AM, said:

Maybe I just don't understand BUT does the game get harder the more battles that we play? We have 2 accounts and if I play on the one that has over 1200 battles I win more games than when I play the account with over 10,000 battles. Playing the same 2 tanks (KV1 and T150)  the same day between 9 and 11 eastern. Played 8 games on small account won 6. Played 8 games on large account won 1. Its like I can't get over 50.55% win rate. I get up to 50.75 and now back to 50.55. I stay alive until the last with good damage and we still loose. I am an older guy so maybe I have reached my limit. The account with the smaller battles is still 55.56 WR so If I play anymore I will play that one. Would still like to play the other one . Maybe after the event is over.I guess a better tank match is the answer. You pro's know more about that. I wish you all good tanking. 

 

Yes, I think you are right, this is my impression, too. 

 

 



Doc_01_ #57 Posted 20 October 2017 - 01:25 PM

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Your excuses for enhancements is futile, so let’s agree to disagree. You need enhancements to win or make you fell better while playing so at least some one is benefiting. I’m out!

SpartacusDiablo #58 Posted 20 October 2017 - 01:28 PM

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View PostDoc_01_, on 20 October 2017 - 08:25 AM, said:

Your excuses for enhancements is futile, so let’s agree to disagree. You need enhancements to win or make you fell better while playing so at least some one is benefiting. I’m out!

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Doc_01_ #59 Posted 20 October 2017 - 01:30 PM

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It is a game so ALL HAVE FUN YES FUN TANKING 

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View PostDoc_01_, on 20 October 2017 - 08:30 AM, said:

It is a game so ALL HAVE FUN YES FUN TANKING 

 

Your a confusing guy.

Yes it is a game, but generally folks like to do well at things they do.  Maybe younger generations don't understand that anymore?

 

 


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