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SpartacusDiablo #421 Posted 12 January 2018 - 12:47 AM

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View PostAndromeda_74, on 11 January 2018 - 07:44 PM, said:

 

thanks Spartacus. I’ve been trolling the forums for a while, and this is my first time posting. From what I can tell there’s allot of helpful forumers and advice given.

 

 I do have to say the matchmaking is very frustrating. I’ve been i matches where the reds have 4 Tanks with derps. Not sure about you guys, but I’m kinda tired of being one shot killed. Almost scared to even peek a boom them, especially when I’m bottom tier in a light tank. 

 

​Then don't peek a boom them.  Use terrain, speed, and your camo to get away from them.  In most cases their accuracy sucks.  Get unspotted and hit them from another angle.  Sometimes it's hard to do but you should never fight them on their terms.  Always try to fight them on your terms.

 


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BattChiefJoe241 #422 Posted 12 January 2018 - 02:38 AM

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View Post___ez_e___, on 11 January 2018 - 07:48 AM, said:

 

Technical it’s not bouncing since that’s not how the mechanics work on HE. 

 

Its semantics.   A bounce is defined by a ricochet (at least that’s the way I see it)

 

AP literally pens armor then explodes inside the tank.  AP shot bounces is a ricochet.  HE shot will never ricochet since it explodes on impact.  

 

HE literally explodes outside the tank and that explosion then pens the tank.  Sometimes you will have the outside explosion fail to pen the tank, which many players equate with bouncing.    Since the explosion occurs outside the tank, the point where HE hits is very important.   If the armor is too thick, the explosion is just going to bounce off the armor.  

 

For example, I had a HE shot from my KV2 do no damage to the tank, because I notice I hit the wrong spot that allowed the HE explosion to explode most above the enemy tank.  I was shooting a cupola, but this particular tank has a cupola with a soft middle, but a very strong armor on top.  I hit the very top of the copula, which was impenetrable for this particular tank.     A HE shots will never ricochet and will explode on impact. 

 

So if you hit a enemy tank wrong some of the HE explosion can either miss the tank or hit the wrong part of tank.   If you hit an enemy gun by accident rather then the tank, then expect to do zero damage.  

 

Also you can kill and damage multiple enemy targets if they are close enough together.  I haven’t killed 2 tanks with one HE shot, but at least one forum player has show that he did kill two tanks with one shot.   Clearly those tanks can not be full health.  I’ve definitely purposefully damaged two tanks with one HE shot.   

 

I’ve also killed one shot kill tanks with HE when there isn’t a clean shot at them (ie through train) and I knew the HE would explode on impact (hitting mostly the train) and that explosion would spread and travel enough through the little openings to kill the tank. 

 

 

 

I am talking about HE shells that you fire, do not see the flash of impact, then you hear, that one bounced.

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BattChiefJoe241 #423 Posted 12 January 2018 - 02:47 AM

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Andromeda_74, on 11 January 2018 - 06:13 PM, said:

I’m a 40%er and I definitely look at damage. I’m also OCD about my WR and can’t, for the life of me, bring it up. I’m not great player, but I’m not bad either. 

 

​I agree after complaining to wargamming my WR went from over 50% to 49% and it was brutal. I am a player like you. I would rather have a good team that wins even if I die, as long as I contributed to the team. The first online game I played was COD 2. I was recruited by OUTLAW CLAN. I was excepted after a recruiting period while playing. The main focus was on teamwork, it didn't matter how many times you died as long as you helped the team. It was gaming paradise, members not stealing kills, giving themselves up so team could Capture The Flag. Of course the Clan was ruined when new younger members only cared about how many kills they had. One member was caught using wall hacks. I respect all of the team players in this game and green thumb when they play well.

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SpartacusDiablo #424 Posted 12 January 2018 - 02:03 PM

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Ventured into tier X this morning.  Ended up with 7 tank Destroyers in the game.  5 on reds and 2 on the greens.  What an incredibly fun and dynamic game. Get a set of TD's spotted, move to flank, spot 2 more, move to flank, and spot the last one.  Meanwhile my entire team is focused on killing one E-50 for 2 minutes.  This allows the red TD's to close in and absolutely wreck us.

Do something about the amount of tank Destroyers in play for Christ's sake.

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Andromeda_74 #425 Posted 12 January 2018 - 09:14 PM

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View PostSpartacusDiablo, on 12 January 2018 - 12:47 AM, said:

 

​Then don't peek a boom them.  Use terrain, speed, and your camo to get away from them.  In most cases their accuracy sucks.  Get unspotted and hit them from another angle.  Sometimes it's hard to do but you should never fight them on their terms.  Always try to fight them on your terms.

 

 

oh I do that too...but...I’m a terrible driver :( 

i drove off the bridge on Canal yesterday. I was jamming across and had an IS in my sites and BAM, right off the side :facepalm: 



Revenge_of_Peppa_the_pig #426 Posted 12 January 2018 - 11:25 PM

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View PostPanzertroopenVT, on 11 January 2018 - 01:58 PM, said:

 

so if I hire you at my company to do work and you say, I have a 55%wr on wotb you think that's gonna carry you through this thing called life? Cause I got news for you, even in most gaming communities this game isn't the "bee's knee's" sorta speak. So for you to imply folks who have a lower than 50% wr in this game are Braindead just reinforces the fact to me that there are a lot of morally inept, ignorance is bliss individuals playing this game a the moment. What ever happened to laying for fun and learning from like minded people? Folks like this came!

 

​man . give me 6 script bots . will be far more better then with things MM throw at me .

1. bots will move . instead of sitting in bush all game . aiming at UFOS

2. bots will not join battle  and stay on start afk

3. bots will sometimes shoot . sometimes even hit with damage . AND if bot will manage to do 1k damage (small number tbh ) it will be nearly 100% win

4. bots will not YOLO . and die in first 30 sec . just coz its fun..


Edited by Fred_Adams, 12 January 2018 - 11:25 PM.


BattChiefJoe241 #427 Posted 17 January 2018 - 05:59 AM

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I just played a tier 5 battle and our team had about 27,000 battles and red team had approx. 75,000 battles. Guess what? We LOST

 


Edited by BattChiefJoe241, 17 January 2018 - 05:59 AM.


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Dmopans #428 Posted 17 January 2018 - 11:30 PM

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Tier 6 battle: my team waltzed into a trap that I happen to be nowhere near. Guess the map.

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View PostDmopans, on 17 January 2018 - 06:30 PM, said:

Tier 6 battle: my team waltzed into a trap that I happen to be nowhere near. Guess the map.

 

Compton?

SanguinaryDan #430 Posted 21 January 2018 - 08:38 PM

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How about the Matchmaker and the Missions generator have a little chat before putting you in a game?  I’ve had several runs where my Missions were Supremacy based and the MM sent me to 10+ Encounter battles in a row.:facepalm:

 

 


The point of the game is to win.  The purpose of the game is to have fun.  They are not mutually exclusive.

Andromeda_74 #431 Posted 23 January 2018 - 09:06 PM

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I believe it has not much to do with match making, but more to do with player base. Its just terrible the last few weeks. 

ToeTagAndBagEm #432 Posted 23 January 2018 - 09:11 PM

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Ive had 9 teams in a row like this !
where is this a even match up?

Something isnt right
This happens often and seem a bit like well...[edited]

Green 
43.04%
44.90%
51.28%(me)
45.13%
43.43%
45.47%
46.70%

Red
53.91%
52.72%
45.45%
52.06%
53.78%
44.23%
47.49%


BattChiefJoe241 #433 Posted 24 January 2018 - 02:44 AM

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tier 5 in premium PZV/IV I could not penn a leopard even point blanck most battles my penn is lower then 50%. Teams are bad and lower tier 75% of the time

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Christopher_klann44 #434 Posted 24 January 2018 - 03:30 AM

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View PostBattChiefJoe241, on 24 January 2018 - 02:44 AM, said:

tier 5 in premium PZV/IV I could not penn a leopard even point blanck most battles my penn is lower then 50%. Teams are bad and lower tier 75% of the time

  That sucks, sorry to hear that. Myself, I found once you hit tier 7, that is where the teams turn bad. I'm looking to sell the rest of my tier 7 tanks.



Tackywheat1 #435 Posted 24 January 2018 - 03:32 AM

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Ive had 9 teams in a row like this !
where is this a even match up?

Something isnt right
This happens often and seem a bit like well...[edited]

Green 
43.04%
44.90%
51.28%(me)
45.13%
43.43%
45.47%
46.70%

Red
53.91%
52.72%
45.45%
52.06%
53.78%
44.23%
47.49%

 

Lol this = me 1/2 the time... 1/4 time is:

Green  
50.04%
55.90%
50.53%(me)
39.13%
58.43%
52.47%
56.70%

Red
40.91%
49.72%
45.45%
52.06%
32.78%
44.23%
47.49%

the final 1/4 is:

Green  
53.04%
54.90%
50.53%(me)
55.13%
43.43%
45.47%
46.70%

Red
53.91%
52.72%
45.45%
52.06%
53.78%
44.23%
47.49%

 


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Tackywheat1 #436 Posted 24 January 2018 - 03:33 AM

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View PostChristopher_klann44, on 23 January 2018 - 09:30 PM, said:

  That sucks, sorry to hear that. Myself, I found once you hit tier 7, that is where the teams turn bad. I'm looking to sell the rest of my tier 7 tanks.

 

More like every tier has bad teammates until tier X where the players (usually) have enough experience to git gud

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SpartacusDiablo #437 Posted 24 January 2018 - 03:36 AM

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View PostTackywheat1, on 23 January 2018 - 10:33 PM, said:

 

More like every tier has bad teammates until tier X where the players (usually) have enough experience to git gud

They are bad in tier X as well.


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Tackywheat1 #438 Posted 24 January 2018 - 03:48 AM

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View PostSpartacusDiablo, on 23 January 2018 - 09:36 PM, said:

They are bad in tier X as well.

 

Yes but usually they aren't total idiots and have an iota of skill, something most lower tier players don't have......................

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WarDawg187 #439 Posted 24 January 2018 - 07:56 AM

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I think they should MATCH UP BY RATIOS AND TIER LEVEL, besides, with all disappearing and re-appearing targets and all the crap that toys with the view, you stand no chance anyway...I have my filter on, 1-10 tier...i can be hitting a target and it will VANISH, and i will die because they obviously can still see me...its [edited], and NOT WORTH THE MONEY...W.O.T. has a LONG WAY to go yet...good luck, you'll need it....

SpartacusDiablo #440 Posted 24 January 2018 - 08:27 AM

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View PostWarDawg187, on 24 January 2018 - 02:56 AM, said:

I think they should MATCH UP BY RATIOS AND TIER LEVEL, besides, with all disappearing and re-appearing targets and all the crap that toys with the view, you stand no chance anyway...I have my filter on, 1-10 tier...i can be hitting a target and it will VANISH, and i will die because they obviously can still see me...its [edited], and NOT WORTH THE MONEY...W.O.T. has a LONG WAY to go yet...good luck, you'll need it....

The targets disappear and reappear because you aren't spotting them. Get out of the spawn and stop depending on your your team to spot the targets for you.

 

Another player who doesn't understand the game trying to tell us that it is rigged.  :facepalm:


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