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krietenstein34 #81 Posted 23 October 2017 - 05:41 PM

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View PostSpartacusDiablo, on 23 October 2017 - 10:36 AM, said:

You're playing in tiers 3,4, and 5... Of course the majority of players there will be inexperienced and have a low battle count.

 

That's exactly what I'm saying................   I don't recall it being as bad as I've observed  in last week.   TONS of new people.   And since the player base really isn't growing, they're losing them as fast as they can bring them in.   Like I said............. just an observation.   It blew my mind, not the bad WR's...... it was specifically the lack of battles. 

 

 


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chicagoK #82 Posted 23 October 2017 - 06:09 PM

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View PostMarBearCat, on 21 October 2017 - 04:18 PM, said:

MM is especially bad when you have your "honeymoon" and when your tank's anniversary comes up.

 

I've noticed this. I can't ever remember getting good players on my teams when I'm involved with one of

the two above.

 

There is no honeymoon period.  You've driven 0ver 200 tanks.  Do you mean to tell me that you've tracked the team makeup for the first 10 or so battles that you've played in each of those, and performed some sort of statistical comparison against your overall win rate/team makeup or, better yet, a similarly-sized sample of games played later on with those tanks? Or have you just noticed that with some of those tanks you got off to a rough start?  I guarantee you haven't done the former. The latter is just an example of confirmation bias meets availability heuristic.  Same holds for anniversary tanks.    

 

Now if your response to that is, "But I had this happen this one time and then again another time," you're in the wrong place.  My career win rate is 60%.  When I first got the B-C 25 t AP, I went 1-3 in my first 4 battles...25%!  At 93 battles I'm now 63% in that tank.  Confirmation of an anti-honeymoon?  Nope, I just had a short run of bad games. 

 

Besides all that, the fact that you're using "honeymoon period" to mean a time where you have bad luck with tanks, while everyone else uses "honeymoon period" to mean a good run, contradicts the existence of such a phenomenon from the get-go.

 

View PostSpartacusDiablo, on 22 October 2017 - 06:08 PM, said:

While yes there are adjustments made at times (honeymoon period) they are applied to all players equally. There is no rigging of one player over another.

 

See above about honeymoon periods.  Agree wholeheartedly with the second sentence.

Edited by chicagoK, 23 October 2017 - 06:18 PM.


SpartacusDiablo #83 Posted 23 October 2017 - 06:37 PM

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I have noticed and wargaming has confirmed that a newly purchased tank is initially given five to ten matches where it is always top-tier. That is what I am referring to as the honeymoon period.  The honeymoon period only applies when running solo. If you are platooned with another same tier tank you may be drawn into a higher tier match.

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View PostSpartacusDiablo, on 23 October 2017 - 01:37 PM, said:

I have noticed and wargaming has confirmed that a newly purchased tank is initially given five to ten matches where it is always top-tier. That is what I am referring to as the honeymoon period. The honeymoon period only applies when running solo. If you are platooned with another same tier tank you may be drawn into a higher tier match.

 

patently false 

 

I have 301 tanks played.   Several of them solo jumped in as low tier in the first game.   

 

What they mean to say is - if the queue is big we will try to make you high tier.   


 
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SpartacusDiablo #85 Posted 23 October 2017 - 10:00 PM

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View Post__Crusader6__, on 23 October 2017 - 03:56 PM, said:

 

patently false 

 

I have 301 tanks played.   Several of them solo jumped in as low tier in the first game.   

 

What they mean to say is - if the queue is big we will try to make you high tier.   

That's fair but has not been my experience.  During my most recent grind (the T25/2) my first 6 or so games were all as top tier.  The same as when I purchased the Bromwell.  I recall other tanks being similar but can not recall the specifics.

 

I recall WG making a statement concerning a honeymoon period but as you mentioned it was dependent upon server population.  

 

It would be nice to get an official statement from WG on Matchmaking posted to this thread.  


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TheFluffiestSeal #86 Posted 23 October 2017 - 11:54 PM

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I've had a honeymoon period for exactly 6 battles for all of my tanks.

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dudodger #87 Posted 24 October 2017 - 04:46 AM

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When the hell.is WOT gonna fix this match making [edited].  This game used to be fun. I have been playing for quite a while now and im seriously think about quitting.  I am currently on a 9 game losing streak.  On every team i have been on the average number of battles have been less than 1000 against teams with over 10000 battle average.  Im not even going to get into the win rate percentages.  This [edited]is getting real old real fast.

__Crusader6__ #88 Posted 24 October 2017 - 01:50 PM

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Dudodger,

 

https://www.blitzstars.com/player/com/dudodger

  You are playing higher tiers than your historical average- as well your not doing a lot of dmg for your tanks. 

Secondly remember it’s an event period - don’t expect much from the player base during these. 

 

If you want to win find your tanks that carry. Look for a 2.5+ Damage Ratio 


 
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TonnerreCadien #89 Posted 24 October 2017 - 07:13 PM

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Since I joined the SocietyTM, all of my matches have been blowouts for green, and tanks are bouncing shots off of me left and right! I don't know what everyone is complaining about.

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ErnieJuarez #90 Posted 24 October 2017 - 08:05 PM

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Who pinned this straight garbage thread? Nice effort, hahah

TheFluffiestSeal #91 Posted 24 October 2017 - 08:44 PM

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View PostErnieJuarez, on 24 October 2017 - 08:05 PM, said:

Who pinned this straight garbage thread? Nice effort, hahah

 

I believe Spartacus mentioned this elsewhere. The idea is to cut down on MM threads. He talked with Zloydd about it.

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dayton07277 #92 Posted 24 October 2017 - 09:31 PM

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View Post__Seal__, on 22 October 2017 - 04:06 AM, said:

I've always done better solo than in a platoon. Is it because platoon matchmaker is different? Another reason could be that our play styles don't mix. I have a strange, selfish playstyle that does wonders solo.

Here! Here! Solo for me also.



dayton07277 #93 Posted 24 October 2017 - 09:32 PM

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View Post__Seal__, on 24 October 2017 - 12:44 PM, said:

 

I believe Spartacus mentioned this elsewhere. The idea is to cut down on MM threads. He talked with Zloydd about it.

Bout time...;)



ErnieJuarez #94 Posted 24 October 2017 - 11:26 PM

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View Post__Seal__, on 24 October 2017 - 08:44 PM, said:

 

I believe Spartacus mentioned this elsewhere. The idea is to cut down on MM threads. He talked with Zloydd about it.

But it’s so poorly done...



SpartacusDiablo #95 Posted 24 October 2017 - 11:28 PM

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View PostErnieJuarez, on 24 October 2017 - 06:26 PM, said:

But it’s so poorly done...

It'll get better (hopefully). I'm working on something.


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TheFluffiestSeal #96 Posted 24 October 2017 - 11:33 PM

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I would recommend that you add what MrConway said on the EU forums. It adds a little bit of flavor.

 

Since the thread has become a little dry and off topic, I'm going to raise a discussion point.

 

Is MM "rigged" against all players (so therefore, not rigged)?

It was mentioned before somewhere else. In WG's MM patent, they said they had the right to curb win/loss streaks. Does that mean that they put sub-par teammates on win streaks, to try to drag everybody towards 50%? And vice versa? 

Is MM "rigged" to drag your winrate towards 50%?

 

I would love to hear some of your thoughts and comments.


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__Crusader6__ #97 Posted 24 October 2017 - 11:38 PM

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View PostErnieJuarez, on 24 October 2017 - 06:26 PM, said:

But it’s so poorly done...

 

It’s done better than your tanking...
 
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ErnieJuarez #98 Posted 25 October 2017 - 12:10 AM

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View PostSpartacusDiablo, on 24 October 2017 - 11:28 PM, said:

It'll get better (hopefully). I'm working on something.

 

It will if you put time into. I seen you edited the first post, so I kinda had a feeling. 



SpartacusDiablo #99 Posted 25 October 2017 - 12:12 AM

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View PostErnieJuarez, on 24 October 2017 - 07:10 PM, said:

 

It will if you put time into. I seen you edited the first post, so I kinda had a feeling. 

Trying to keep the original post as neutral as possible.  I have my views and I will post them in this thread when necessary but I don't think the original post is the place for that.  


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ErnieJuarez #100 Posted 25 October 2017 - 01:09 AM

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View PostSpartacusDiablo, on 25 October 2017 - 12:12 AM, said:

Trying to keep the original post as neutral as possible.  I have my views and I will post them in this thread when necessary but I don't think the original post is the place for that.  

 

That makes sense, it’s hard to stay neutral without a subjective perspective creeping in. I think just the attempt at objectivity would be good enough, but that is just my opinion. Good luck with the thread! 

 

It is a MM thread on WG forum...The lean is expected. Alright dude, nice talking with you. 


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