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MudkipAtWar #1 Posted 21 October 2017 - 10:06 PM

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Going down the line right now, what is it like? Compared to other hevies, how does it stand in today's meta, etc

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KingxChuck #2 Posted 21 October 2017 - 10:32 PM

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The entire line is great except KV4

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_The_Tactition_ #3 Posted 21 October 2017 - 10:35 PM

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The tanks are all brutes. However, the KV3 has been power creeped, the KV4 has a lot of weak spots. But the ST-1 is a beast. It’s what happened when the Soviets decided to make a T32 pretty much. The IS4 is just a brute, but it has terrible alpha, at 420. E100 is better IMO.

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Rawmusse #4 Posted 21 October 2017 - 10:39 PM

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Is4

 

It has some pros and cons, but it's amazing in most of the situations.

 

Your biggest pain in the [edited] are going to be the damm Is7s, doesn't matter if a 42% wr noob is driving it, it will most likely go down taking 2/3s of your Hp.

 

Against everything else is godlike, the gun is pretty much the best in class, second to the Fv215b. And the armor is reliable, it just bounces stuff if you know what are you doing.

 

On the mobility, not too fast, but not too slow. (So is fast enought)

 

Meta wise, really good, the Ap pen is good, so no need to spam heat (more dpm), is fast, and has good armor.

 

 

St1

 

A good hulldown heavy, but slow.

 

Kv4

 

Trash, I used to love it (1000 games in total) powercrep to hell

 

Kv3

 

Trash

 

T150

 

decent if top tier

 

 

 


Edited by Rawmusse, 21 October 2017 - 10:42 PM.


Posit1ve_ #5 Posted 21 October 2017 - 10:41 PM

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They've benefited from med nerfs and prammo nerfs, and the return of the armor meta, but they're still outclassed at their tiers by better heavies (STI is still a beast though)

 

KV-3 is still too slow in a tier filled with lights and draculas

KV-4 is outclassed by tanks like IS-3, due to the prevalence of weakspots and fairly poor gun

IS-4 has a trash gun for a tier X heavy (mediocre alpha, same trash gun handling as IS-7, weak DPM, and mediocre penetration), and suffers from a roof weakspot and poor frontal armor

 

But the STI is pretty good. Mediocre gun, but the turret armor is great, unlike KV-4 and IS-4, and it has great gun depression


Edited by Posit1ve_, 21 October 2017 - 10:42 PM.

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e___18989 #6 Posted 21 October 2017 - 10:50 PM

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Honestly, I think the IS-4 is overrated. The low alpha really hurts. It should get good gun handling like other low alpha tier 10 heavys. But it doesn’t. It still has bad gun handling. The gun really lets it down. I cannot count how many times I rolled lower than a medium tank! Plus they have faster ROF. That’s pretty embarrassing when that happends. 

 

Low alpha

bad gun handling

only ok frontal armor 

 

 


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Defaultz #7 Posted 22 October 2017 - 12:19 AM

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If you think 122mms are bad, remember the days when 120mms were praised as being really good? Now they get out-traded by mediums, take noticeably longer to load than medium guns, and still miss stupid shots. 420 alpha on the is4 is still mediocre, but it'll let you trade damage without feeling dead inside.

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View Poste___18989, on 21 October 2017 - 05:50 PM, said:

Honestly, I think the IS-4 is overrated. The low alpha really hurts. It should get good gun handling like other low alpha tier 10 heavys. But it doesn’t. It still has bad gun handling. The gun really lets it down. I cannot count how many times I rolled lower than a medium tank! Plus they have faster ROF. That’s pretty embarrassing when that happends. 

 

Low alpha

bad gun handling

only ok frontal armor 

 

 

 

at least the 4202 can't just hesh your sides for full rolls into your fuel tanks anymore. 

 

OP: the line was great like two years ago, these days you'd be better served by something else.


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MudkipAtWar #9 Posted 22 October 2017 - 02:03 AM

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Nuts, tying to go down underrated lines that aren't garbage

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Posit1ve_ #10 Posted 22 October 2017 - 02:55 AM

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View PostMudkipAtWar, on 21 October 2017 - 09:03 PM, said:

Nuts, tying to go down underrated lines that aren't garbage

 

Lines are usually underrated because they're garbage

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View PostRawmusse, on 21 October 2017 - 10:39 PM, said:

Kv4

Trash, I used to love it (1000 games in total) powercrep to hell

 

Lol when was KV-4 ever good? I started playing the game back in December 2015 and never had trouble against KV-4, especially if you shoot at 45° angle against its side armor it's an all you can shoot buffet that even my tier 6 tanks used to exploit. It was a choice of hitting tacks, engine, fuel tank, or try for the ammo lol. Fuel tank so often has always been the easy way to get a fire started lol.



SanguinaryDan #12 Posted 26 November 2017 - 06:46 PM

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I’m glad I went the awful to get to the ST-I and IS-4.  Both tanks are a lot of fun to play and will do solid work plus I love the way they look.  The problem is that you start running into the 150mm+ TDs and the ultra heavies (Maus, IS-7 & E100) that are so hard to pen and/or have such deep HP pools that it’s a “if ya can’t beat ‘em...” situation.  There are just too many things in Tier X games that make it attack of the killer tomatoes.  And while you can make life harder for them shooting at you it takes very much more effort than they need to do the same.  

 

Ridulously powerful guns?  Ok.  Insanely heavy armor?  Ok.  Both in one package making up most of both teams?  Not so interesting.

 

So if you want to scare the other side into changing their undies when you come around a corner you won’t choose the IS-4.  And that’s a shame.


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View PostSanguinaryDan, on 26 November 2017 - 06:46 PM, said:

I’m glad I went the awful to get to the ST-I and IS-4.  Both tanks are a lot of fun to play and will do solid work plus I love the way they look.  The problem is that you start running into the 150mm+ TDs and the ultra heavies (Maus, IS-7 & E100) that are so hard to pen and/or have such deep HP pools that it’s a “if ya can’t beat ‘em...” situation.  There are just too many things in Tier X games that make it attack of the killer tomatoes.  And while you can make life harder for them shooting at you it takes very much more effort than they need to do the same.  

 

Ridulously powerful guns?  Ok.  Insanely heavy armor?  Ok.  Both in one package making up most of both teams?  Not so interesting.

 

So if you want to scare the other side into changing their undies when you come around a corner you won’t choose the IS-4.  And that’s a shame.

 

They switching the armor of the is4 from the front having 140mm and sides 160mm. To having the front being 160mm and sides being 140mm. I just hope they don't make the shoulders 140mm though.

Apeman1970 #14 Posted 12 January 2018 - 06:06 PM

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SanguinaryDan #15 Posted 14 January 2018 - 03:41 PM

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It was okay before. You got penned a lot because everyone knew your weak spots. Now it’s just scary. If you can keep that lower glacis hidden or angled you can happily force the reds to go for the prammo to have any chance. You still can’t allow the E100 to face hug you as even at 160mm he’ll fire down and punch through your hull.

 

Mind you, I’m kitted all the way to v-stab.  But I’m really enjoying those games that don’t see 50%+ TDs. You are very much on even par against all the other Tier X Heavies. 


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View PostKingxChuck, on 21 October 2017 - 10:32 PM, said:

The entire line is great except KV4

 

Uh, I'm not that good of a player, but I'm WR58%+ in KV4 @ 300+ battles.  I love it.

  

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