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[_UrgleMcPurfle_]

The reason why tier X is such a sleepy campground is because people are scared of being pimp slapped by that unspotted 183. No tank in the game is completely impervious to its shell, the dreaded girthy harbinger of death, even from the front, and so everyone has no choice but to cower pathetically behind some disgraceful piece of cover. Oh! such humiliation!

 

But fear not, for I have a solution: to nerf the camo and view range and buff the frontal armor of the IS-7 and Obj. 263. Now, before you call me out on my complete lack of brain cells, let me explain myself. 

 

Camo & View range

 

Worse camo and shorter view ranges will hinder these tanks' sniping abilities, encouraging them to be up front. With the 263, it is theoretically possible, with its accurate gun, that it could simply sit back and let others do the spotting, but in practice such a strategy will be unreliable due to the inconsistent teams. 

 

Frontal Armor

 

These two tanks already have good frontal armor but a fairly weak hull when facing a 183, discouraging a push against one. However, when facing almost any other tank, these two (IS-7 and 263) are fantastic assault tanks because of their ability to rush up and bully other tanks—an ability that is useless when there is a 900-1300 alpha shell waiting for you when you peek. By making them immune from 183 shells from the front, they are able to regain that ability and push the tempo of the game (of course, a major frontal armor buff will require a nerf to balance it out again—I think a side armor and traverse nerf would be in order then).

 

Basically, to reinvigorate tier X I suggest exaggerating the strengths and weaknesses of some breakthrough tanks. And guys . . . when flaming my terrible idea, please only use the spiciest, most quality roasts. Bland roasts not allowed here!

 

 

Edited by _UrgleMcPurfle_, 27 November 2017 - 08:49 PM.

[MudkipAtWar]

Seems legit. Or, just do what pc did with the badger, good idea though!

[TeruzukiKaiNi]

Well I have top sirloin in my fridge but I'm not sure if that is up to your standards. 

[_UrgleMcPurfle_]

iEatChickenMcNuggets, on 27 November 2017 - 01:07 PM, said:

Well I have top sirloin in my fridge but I'm not sure if that is up to your standards. 

 

Eh, add some chili powder when preparing it and I'll be satisfied. 

[outersketcher]

There's a tier X? What's a 183? what's view range? 

ohh.. where can I buy a tier X tank. So I can come help improve the play?

 

 

Spoiler

You know I'm kidding... right?. RIGHT?

 

Edited by outersketcher, 27 November 2017 - 08:22 PM.

[Posit1ve_]

Tier 10 is not a campfest. I don't care what you people imagine it to be. 

 

The "campfest" is a non-existent issue that people invented to rip on the 183

[TheFluffiestSeal]

Or nerf the 183's camo and accuracy and buff its armor and speed, to make it more of a frontline tank. Both work.

[RommelTanker]

__Seal__, on 27 November 2017 - 07:45 PM, said:

Or nerf the 183's camo and accuracy and buff its armor and speed, to make it more of a frontline tank. Both work.

 

Nah swap it for the FV4005 Stage 2

 

Everyone's happy then. Tier 1s can HE pen the turret.

[_warL0rd_]

Posit1ve_, on 27 November 2017 - 07:36 PM, said:

Tier 10 is not a campfest. I don't care what you people imagine it to be. 

 

The "campfest" is a non-existent issue that people invented to rip on the 183

 

oh really? play a few more games at X and tell me how the first three minutes go in each match. 

[TengenToppaPotatoLagann]

bringing in the badger and fv4005 would probably fix the imagined 183 issue. 

 

they wouldnt even have to keep the 183 in game as a reward tank, just add the 4005 branch at the same time as the badger switch, and give 183 drivers both/a choice of either as compensation for the tanks removal.

 

there would still be a bunch of new tds to grind and unlock in the 4005 branch, if they gave the tier x as compensation as it'd be a 183mm gun in the garage of any 215b183 owners

 

meanwhile the badger just makes more sense as a successor to the tort... and it looks like it'd be absurdly deadly when given a chance to fire on the reload... maybe dont even give the badger, just make people grind the tort again if they want a second tier x td.

 

 

obvs it is a weird solution, but i'd be happy with it, lol

[9_V0LT]

Easiest, simplest fix, would be to double the 183's loading time. 

[TeruzukiKaiNi]

9_V0LT, on 27 November 2017 - 12:23 PM, said:

Easiest, simplest fix, would be to double the 183's loading time. 

If you double the already 20 second reload the 183 could probably just shoot one time, miss, and die. The 183 will go from camping pos to an actual pos

[TeruzukiKaiNi]

_UrgleMcPurfle_, on 27 November 2017 - 11:15 AM, said:

 

Eh, add some chili powder when preparing it and I'll be satisfied. 

 

Marinate it in olive oil, garlic, and diced chili and hot sauce and I'll be satisfied. 

[Dan_Deerso]

Posit1ve_, on 27 November 2017 - 02:36 PM, said:

Tier 10 is not a campfest. I don't care what you people imagine it to be. 

 

The "campfest" is a non-existent issue that people invented to rip on the 183

 

Gee, I wonder why you say that, it's not like it's your second most played tank. Not gonna be biased at all.

[NateDawg2k16]

From my short experience in X, it's more of a "waiting for other team to make a stupid mistake"

[Rockracer]

if only my 263 had less frontal weakspots

[hydra1415]

NateDawg2k16, on 27 November 2017 - 08:57 PM, said:

From my short experience in X, it's more of a "waiting for other team to make a stupid mistake"

 

^^^^

 

This is my main experience at tier X, and everyone is too eager to pounce on the maker of the mistake and too timid to make the mistake, ending in the first several minutes being a chance to roast a marshmallow or two because the first person to get spotted dies

[_UrgleMcPurfle_]

TengenToppaPotatoLagann, on 27 November 2017 - 02:20 PM, said:

bringing in the badger and fv4005 would probably fix the imagined 183 issue. 

 

they wouldnt even have to keep the 183 in game as a reward tank, just add the 4005 branch at the same time as the badger switch, and give 183 drivers both/a choice of either as compensation for the tanks removal.

 

there would still be a bunch of new tds to grind and unlock in the 4005 branch, if they gave the tier x as compensation as it'd be a 183mm gun in the garage of any 215b183 owners

 

meanwhile the badger just makes more sense as a successor to the tort... and it looks like it'd be absurdly deadly when given a chance to fire on the reload... maybe dont even give the badger, just make people grind the tort again if they want a second tier x td.

 

 

obvs it is a weird solution, but i'd be happy with it, lol

 

Replacing the 183 with the badger is a very logical idea. But let me be honest here: the 183 is a very fun and unique tank to play. No other tank has such extreme derp, or the ability to deliver that derp with such high pen numbers. It adds diversity to the game; I imagine that if it were a person attending a party with all the other tier X tanks in human form, it would be that one weird guy in the corner who doesn't talk—like, what other tank is like it? What other tank has its special mix of characteristics? I think it would be a shame to simply get rid of it. Yes, removing it is the simplest solution. But it is not the best. 

[Posit1ve_]

_warL0rd_, on 27 November 2017 - 03:18 PM, said:

 

oh really? play a few more games at X and tell me how the first three minutes go in each match. 

 

Yah, 700, of my last 1k battles were at tier X. It's not a campfest.

Dan_Deerso, on 27 November 2017 - 03:43 PM, said:

 

Gee, I wonder why you say that, it's not like it's your second most played tank. Not gonna be biased at all.

That was from back when I was a noob. I've barely touched the thing in the past year. I only have 15 battles in it in the past 90 days (out of 4k battles in the same time frame)

Now I primarily play the Bat Chat and AMX 50B, which are HESH magnets, so I'm primarily on the receiving end of those 1300 damage rolls nowadays. I stand by my statement.

[Motorbreath_]

Give the 183 its, ahem, ORIGINAL gun values. Do you remember when the Death Star accurately represented true stormtrooper accuracy? 

Spoiler

Pepperidge Farms remembers

 

Edited by theFANTASTICfox, 28 November 2017 - 12:37 AM.