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QuiAudetVincit #1 Posted 29 November 2017 - 03:23 AM

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So, I've been playing the Tiger P a bit (first 10 battles or so). First off, so much for a honeymoon period. 5 battles and here are some tier VIIIs!

 

In essence, I know the tank is still largely stock and you can't judge a tank by its stock traits. But this tank is horribly slow, even with top engine; the armor is inadequate; it's a huge target, too. Should I grin and bear it through the grind, or just be done with it?



blahblahguy #2 Posted 29 November 2017 - 03:29 AM

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That tank is one of my favorite tier vii so I would stick with it
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QuiAudetVincit #3 Posted 29 November 2017 - 03:29 AM

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View Postblahblahguy, on 29 November 2017 - 03:29 AM, said:

That tank is one of my favorite tier vii so I would stick with it

 

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I_Maverick_I #4 Posted 29 November 2017 - 03:30 AM

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Idk the line sucks imo until the Maus. Vk B is actually pretty decent, but the VK A is pretty bad. The Tiger P has lots of potential with great armor in the front. I would just grit your teeth and push on. Tier 9 and 10 stats are the only ones that matter anyway, no one cares if you only average 1100 in a tier 7

View Post__Seal__, on 13 December 2017 - 06:13 PM, said:

 

I have said this before. The reason seals are migrating to tier X is because there are too many clubbers at 1-5. Its no longer safe, even in our homeland.

 

Well...if the seals think it's safer to be at tier X, we should be playing tiers I-V to avoid the seals at tier X right?? 


QuiAudetVincit #5 Posted 29 November 2017 - 03:37 AM

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View PostI_Maverick_I, on 29 November 2017 - 03:30 AM, said:

Tier 9 and 10 stats are the only ones that matter anyway, no one cares if you only average 1100 in a tier 7

 

*Looks at stats*

*Sees that he averages 1100 at tier 7*

 

Be that as it may, wouldn't it be better to learn how to deal with this at tier 7 rather than higher up?



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View PostQuiAudetVincit, on 29 November 2017 - 03:37 AM, said:

 

*Looks at stats*

*Sees that he averages 1100 at tier 7*

 

Be that as it may, wouldn't it be better to learn how to deal with this at tier 7 rather than higher up?

What he is saying is that tier for tier the Tiger P is, well, terrible. It is a common answer on bad tank threads. The VK 45.02 B and the Maus, on the contrary, are good and strong tier for tier respectively, and thus should have higher stats.


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QuiAudetVincit #7 Posted 29 November 2017 - 03:54 AM

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View Post_The_Tactition_, on 29 November 2017 - 03:48 AM, said:

What he is saying is that tier for tier the Tiger P is, well, terrible. It is a common answer on bad tank threads. The VK 45.02 B and the Maus, on the contrary, are good and strong tier for tier respectively, and thus should have higher stats.

 

Ah. I didn't make that connection, thanks

 

EDIT: running on not much sleep (which may contribute to my TP woes)


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SanguinaryDan #8 Posted 29 November 2017 - 04:19 AM

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You could be well rested and being fed peeled grapes by Vestal Virgins and the Tiger P would still stink.  The super thick hull is only the vertical plate in front of the driver’s face.  The others have “Shoot Here” painted on them.  Your aim time is positively Russian.  The mobility was cribbed from the KV’s playbook as well.

 

IMO, if you’re masochistic in your tendencies then the Tiger P and the follow on VK A (though it’s not half as awful) will be your cup of tea.  If not, and you don’t mind researching without playing, get to the VK B as quick as you can.  Even if it involves signing a strange document with your own blood.

 

 


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WMd76 #9 Posted 29 November 2017 - 04:25 AM

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Am I crazy, because I've never rage sold a tank once, and that's odd because I'm one of the more 'heavy' rangers of my friends, just ask LtPork lol, 

 

havent rage age sold a tank, but I technically have rage 'sold' 2 phones... Sigh


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QuiAudetVincit #10 Posted 29 November 2017 - 04:42 AM

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View PostWMd76, on 29 November 2017 - 04:25 AM, said:

Am I crazy, because I've never rage sold a tank once, and that's odd because I'm one of the more 'heavy' rangers of my friends, just ask LtPork lol, 

 

havent rage age sold a tank, but I technically have rage 'sold' 2 phones... Sigh

 

Rage sold the Sp1C, too (post-nerf, of course)

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View PostQuiAudetVincit, on 28 November 2017 - 11:42 PM, said:

 

Rage sold the Sp1C, too (post-nerf, of course)

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Tiger P is awful.  Many hate the VK A as well but it's a capable tank.

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0_BlackBeard_0 #13 Posted 29 November 2017 - 01:37 PM

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The secret to the VK4502 A is to play like a medium. Never sit still and ram stuff. It's armor is good for a medium but crap for a heavy. Use it's traverse speed to wiggle the front end. I ended up buying this tank back after the grind was over. I'm not the best in it but it's a fun tank to drive if you don't mind being reckless.

0_BlackBeard_0 #14 Posted 29 November 2017 - 01:38 PM

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However, I couldn't make the Tiger P work. It's not a crap tank.....its just not really good at anything.

glass2707 #15 Posted 29 November 2017 - 04:28 PM

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Tiger P is the worst tank in the line even though at release people claimed it to be the best.  Meanwhile it’s predecessor is actually a pretty solid tank even though at release people said it was the worst tank in the game(it is pretty bad when stock).  The tier 8 is below average, but feels better because of mobility.  Tiers 9&10 are very good.  So play the Tiger P for the x2+ bonus each reset would be my advice.  Get through it and then sell because it is a dog. 


QuiAudetVincit #16 Posted 30 November 2017 - 06:36 PM

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Update: things are getting better less awful! The thing is still as slow as steaming poo, but my DR is above 1 (don't judge, that's a big improvement), DPB is almost 1000, and my WN8 (FWIW) has gone up from 941 to 1228. all stats from blitzstars.com

 

I think the improvement is down to three things: 1. The enhanced armor equipment, or whatever it's called. Sure, I had to use spare parts, but I'm thinking I want to grind to the Ferdinand as well as the 45 A. (EDIT: so given the length of the two grinds and the unlikeliness of a nerf, I figured it couldn't hurt) 2. Finally mounting the top gun- 203 pen vs 145 on the old one. Lower DPM, higher effective DPM. 3. Slowly learning, by trial and error, how to extreme-angle the front plate while hiding the weak shoulder when I look around a corner.

 

TL;DR- I suck less in it now that it's fully upgraded and after 70 battles


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View Post0_BlackBeard_0, on 29 November 2017 - 01:38 PM, said:

However, I couldn't make the Tiger P work. It's not a crap tank.....its just not really good at anything.

 

I am doing well on Tiger P ( 61.54% WR at 78 games), same as what I did on Tiger I / Tiger II.

The really different play style on Tiger P is never thinking you are a heavy tank, play it as a slow TD.

Predict where red would be, never solo, never rush to front line(if you can rush) at the beginning. 

Use the armor at long range, no one can easily pen you when you wiggling well.

 



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View PostQuiAudetVincit, on 30 November 2017 - 06:36 PM, said:

Update: things are getting better less awful! The thing is still as slow as steaming poo, but my DR is above 1 (don't judge, that's a big improvement), DPB is almost 1000, and my WN8 (FWIW) has gone up from 941 to 1228. all stats from blitzstars.com

 

I think the improvement is down to three things: 1. The enhanced armor equipment, or whatever it's called. Sure, I had to use spare parts, but I'm thinking I want to grind to the Ferdinand as well as the 45 A. (EDIT: so given the length of the two grinds and the unlikeliness of a nerf, I figured it couldn't hurt) 2. Finally mounting the top gun- 203 pen vs 145 on the old one. Lower DPM, higher effective DPM. 3. Slowly learning, by trial and error, how to extreme-angle the front plate while hiding the weak shoulder when I look around a corner.

 

TL;DR- I suck less in it now that it's fully upgraded and after 70 battles

 

Don’t play the Ferdinand.  The JP2 is better by a mile.


NaDa_22 #19 Posted 01 December 2017 - 07:18 PM

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I know Tiger P has always been unpopular - but I can say with 100% confidence that it is much more enjoyable ride than Black Prince or KV3. 

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View PostNaDa_22, on 01 December 2017 - 07:18 PM, said:

I know Tiger P has always been unpopular - but I can say with 100% confidence that it is much more enjoyable ride than Black Prince or KV3. 

 

It certainly wasn’t to me.  BP was really good before the advent of light tanks anyway.  KV-3 is probably my choice for second least favorite heavy at the tier.  Though tier 7 is kind of a bad tier for heavies overall. 





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