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wannabeunicum #1201 Posted 29 July 2019 - 10:37 PM

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View PostAOT_Jaeger2, on 28 July 2019 - 05:41 AM, said:


Man, if you patted yourself on the back any harder, you’d break your own spine. The Ferdinand is not, and never has been one of the best Tier 8s in the game, even though I like it. You might as well have played the Jagdpanther II 9/10 times when compared to the Ferdinand prior to the buff. Moreover, win rates of a tank are only one very very minor component in determining whether or not a tank is too strong or too weak, one of the least relevant I would say. Some of the better players in Blitz could carry 50% of their games to a victory regardless of tank, while another portion of the player base would be pretty much guaranteed to contribute little or nothing, even with the most powerful tank in the game and generous matchmaking.

 

Whether or not that tank is dealing damage, killing tanks, and surviving to tell the tale also factors in. Looking in at average statistics, the Charioteer leads all other British tanks at the tier in every category, and by almost 300 damage in DPG when compared to the next highest (the AT 15, a strong contender at Tier VIII nonetheless), and when compared to all Tier VIII TDs it only ranks behind the WZ 120G, T28 Defender, and Skorpion G in WR, but still beats the others in pretty much every other category; only losing out to the 120G and Skorpion (by a Hair) on DPG, and it’s the only Tier VIII TD period to cross the 1 KPB threshold at 1.005 kills per battle on average. It only loses in KDR and DR to the 120G, and again by only a small margin.

 

So basically, this tank isn’t the most overpowered Tier VIII TD because the Faketank exists. Period. It kills tanks more often, deals more damage per game than 99% of the competitors, all while having the lowest average number of battles played by far. Seriously, it has barely more than half the average battle count of the next lowest tank.

 

Just give it a rest and acknowledge you just don’t want to stop stomping Tier VIII pubs with this OP machine.

http://forum.wotblitz.com/index.php?/topic/88850-upcoming-balance-adjustments/page__st__140#topmost

 

The Ferdinand was literally as "OP" as the charioteer in update 4.5 after its buff. This just shows garbage WGs balance analysis is. If you take every sub 60% player or aka the vast majority of the playerbase you would not find any significant over performance from the charioteer compared to other good tier 8 tanks like the IS tanks. 4.5 was the update where they buffed the Tiger P to be super OP and everyone agreed on that but literally not a single player complained about the Ferdinand in 4.5 but WG's garbage stats showed it was OP and they nerfed it.


Edited by wannabeunicum, 29 July 2019 - 10:42 PM.


wannabeunicum #1202 Posted 29 July 2019 - 10:41 PM

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View PostRibbleStripe, on 29 July 2019 - 08:00 AM, said:

 

I'm not proving anything. I just compared your tier 8 stats and your tier 10 stats. If you are okay with tier 8 damage higher than tier 10, you are already unicum. In logics.

Taking an exceptional player who can truly abuse a tank with very specific strengths and at the same time of weaknesses but with good dpm means they can obviously insanely over perform. But all you did was now make the charioteer average for these exceptional players and make it horrible for the vast majority of the players.

 

Was it insanely OP In my hands or in the hands of any other 2% player?

 

Absolutely

 

Insanely OP in the top 15 besides the 2%? It was strong but closer to the e50m levels of OP

 

OP in the hands of the average player? Not at all.


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Ribble I hope I hope WG does something about MM. I don't even want to play anymore. The game was better than this when I started. I have like 25% win rate. Keep up the great work you have done. This isn't it.

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View PostSpartacusDiablo, on 02 April 2019 - 07:30 AM, said:

Ribble,

Is there any chance that you guys could give a little bit of love to the type 64. Personally I think it could use a little bit more gun depression, especially considering that it is a open top tank. I also think it could use either a little bit better acceleration or a higher top-end speed.


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wrecker1968 #1205 Posted 03 August 2019 - 06:41 PM

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WG birthday event is not working properly. I know you pick and choose which post you want to address. You might wanna look into the birthday event.

a15eteRnalTanker #1206 Posted 04 August 2019 - 09:09 PM

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When are we gonna buff the tortoise???

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a15eteRnalTanker #1208 Posted 05 August 2019 - 09:05 PM

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__IT_GOES_IN_RGN_RULES #1209 Posted 06 August 2019 - 02:39 AM

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When is the Tortoise getting buff? The tank is literally a worse Jadgtiger.

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RibbleStripe #1211 Posted 02 September 2019 - 11:15 AM

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6.1 stats 

 

Tier 10

 

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1) Will we see 62A buffed?  Can we restore the turret to pre 3.6?  Maybe make the gun even better?

2) Will Tortoise be buffed?  This tank we nerfed a long time ago, can we reverse nerfs and also buff the armor?

3) VK 4502B is also weak, will gun reload/handling, or turret armor be buffed?  Maybe mobility?

4) Leo PTA and WZ 120 look extremely underpowered, are there any planned changes?

5) Leopard 1 is very weak compared to STB and 30B.  Will we see gun buffs to make it distinguishably the best medium weapon?

6) T26E4 and Centurion are weak, even according to charts.  Will we see DPM buffs? Maybe armor buffs?

 

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Are there's any plans to buff the fcm 50 or the super Pershing or the is-6?

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Where are my japanese heavies? Or super Conqueror?
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I've noticed after the 6.2 update that DPM numbers of some tier 2-4 collector vehicles are substantially lower than the DPM numbers of tier 2-4 tech tree tanks. Are there plans to buff any of these collector vehicles to be more comparable to tech tree tanks in future updates?

 

Also, would the balancing team consider looking at the ground resistance numbers of the Sherman V? It is nicely mobile on hard ground, but once you get into medium ground it becomes very noticably less mobile. It's a fun tank, but challenging to drive because it's mobility can vary so much based on what ground you are driving on.

 

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I do not see the FCM50T on the tier 8 chart. Is this because no one plays it?. This is the prize tank for the next event,  Do you mind if we see some numbers on it?

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No Smasher nerf? I can keep ruining tiers 6 and 7, yay :D
 

... and this is a topic from 2 years ago. Good job, me.


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View Post40_Percent_Nub, on 09 September 2019 - 12:53 PM, said:

No Smasher nerf? I can keep ruining tiers 6 and 7, yay :D
 

... and this is a topic from 2 years ago. Good job, me.

They post in it periodically, rather than starting a new thread every time, so youre not necro-ing


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Are you planning on buffing the Challenger? I mean, the Jackson has more DPM and it’s a tier lower. Come on.

 

 


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View PostDark_Magician_Girl, on 02 September 2019 - 02:56 PM, said:

1) Will we see 62A buffed?  Can we restore the turret to pre 3.6?  Maybe make the gun even better?

2) Will Tortoise be buffed?  This tank we nerfed a long time ago, can we reverse nerfs and also buff the armor?

3) VK 4502B is also weak, will gun reload/handling, or turret armor be buffed?  Maybe mobility?

4) Leo PTA and WZ 120 look extremely underpowered, are there any planned changes?

5) Leopard 1 is very weak compared to STB and 30B.  Will we see gun buffs to make it distinguishably the best medium weapon?

6) T26E4 and Centurion are weak, even according to charts.  Will we see DPM buffs? Maybe armor buffs?

 

Thanks,

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First of all, there will be no tier 10 changes before Twister final. 

 

Looks like you suppose there's a way to make the charts look like this.

The only game where such stats are real is "rock-paper-scissors". 

Let me explain something. There are 9 vehicles in tier 10 MT section. Leopard has worst winrate and is 6th in average damage. But the gap between #1 and #9 is so minor that tier 10 MTs are almost perfectly balanced. Here are some calculations as a proof. 
Average damage among tier 10 MT is 2625. E 50 M has 2741, Leo has 2606 and T-62A has 2505. There by, Leopard's damage is lower than average by less than 1 percent. Leopard's WR is lower than average by 1.3 percent.  Does it make this tank "very weak" as you claim? Are you serious?


There are and there always will be fluctuations in the charts. It's absolutely normal, difference within 5-7% is totally acceptable. 

 

By the way, when you have some spare time try to compare latest charts with ones i posted a year and a half ago. Don't you think fluctuations tend to be less significant?


 

 





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