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Vantablack12 #1301 Posted 22 January 2020 - 01:52 PM

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View PostWhat__why_, on 21 January 2020 - 04:31 PM, said:

Ribblestripe, the USA lights are breaking the game. Not because of the rockets, the rockets are fine. Because of the APCR round. Take away the APCR round for both, make people either use the rocket or splash with HE. 

That would ruin them. Instead, lower the penetration values.


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View PostVantablack12, on 22 January 2020 - 07:52 AM, said:

That would ruin them. Instead, lower the penetration values.


The T49 does just fine without high pen APCR rounds and ATGMS. And it is the most played tank in tier 8. That’s what balances it and that’s exactly how these tanks should be. They would still be unique and popular as hell without them just like the T49 is.


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View PostChariot_Solace, on 22 January 2020 - 07:58 AM, said:


The T49 does just fine without high pen APCR rounds and ATGMS. And it is the most played tank in tier 8. That’s what balances it and that’s exactly how these tanks should be. They would still be unique and popular as hell without them just like the T49 is.

Id be ok with them at least changing the APCR to another HEAT round.



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View PostxNamelessTank, on 06 December 2017 - 03:04 PM, said:

a buff for the kpfpz 70? maybe reload time?


yes plz


give smasher ATGMs!!


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View PostChariot_Solace, on 08 December 2017 - 02:29 AM, said:

 

Another one in dire need.


yes, add ATGMs and buff reload, armor is fine and speed is amazing. reminds me of tiger before 6.7 buff


give smasher ATGMs!!


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View PostMajor_Sweatpants, on 24 January 2020 - 03:37 PM, said:


yes, add ATGMs and buff reload, armor is fine and speed is amazing. reminds me of tiger before 6.7 buff


You realize you quoted a post I made 2 years ago right? I’m not about to go hunt around for exactly where you got this from, but I’m guessing it’s about the KPZ 70? The tank has been buffed a couple times since then. And ATGMs are broken and have no place in this game. WG just hasn’t realized it yet.

 


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View PostChariot_Solace, on 25 January 2020 - 09:20 PM, said:


You realize you quoted a post I made 2 years ago right? I’m not about to go hunt around for exactly where you got this from, but I’m guessing it’s about the KPZ 70? The tank has been buffed a couple times since then. And ATGMs are broken and have no place in this game. WG just hasn’t realized it yet.

 


yes.


give smasher ATGMs!!


RibbleStripe #1308 Posted 06 February 2020 - 11:19 AM

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6.7 stats arrived

 

Tier 10

 

Tier 9

 

Tier 8

 

What will happen to ATGM tanks? 

 

While introducing the ATGM vehicles, we promised to keep an eye on their battle performance and make prompt balance changes if necessary. The latest data analysis suggests the changes are necessary, so the new LTs will be re-balanced already in Update 6.8.

 

 

  • Reducing APCR penetration will cause these light tanks to play their direct role on the battlefield—instead of penetrating heavies from the top.
  • The missiles were conceived as "situative" ammo suitable for quite narrow scope of battle situations. Initially, the ATMs appeared to be too versatile, so their penetration and damage are going to be decreased.
  • The T92E1 used to bounce shots too effectively for a light tank, so its upper glacis plate thickness will be reduced.

 

 


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Thank you for the info Ribblestripe, we really appreciate it. :great::medal:

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We do. Is the look out bar aim issue going to be fixed?
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Appreciate the changes, but the lookout bar exploit still is broke.

 

 

And doesnt that mean the rocket isnt 152mm anymore, its like a 135mm


Edited by Explixiit_, 06 February 2020 - 03:18 PM.

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You can bash me on this, but I kinda like missiles lmao

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View PostExplixiit_, on 06 February 2020 - 06:29 AM, said:

Appreciate the changes, but the lookout bar exploit still is broke.

 

 

And doesnt that mean the rocket isnt 152mm anymore?

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View Postboris55555, on 06 February 2020 - 06:03 AM, said:

We do. Is the look out bar aim issue going to be fixed?


I doubt the look out bar will be messed with.   If it was taken away PC players would once again have a clear advantage with missiles.  The best thing right now is to keep nerfing it the way they are now.  


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>dem batchat stats.

Probably will bounce back as ATGM goes down in 6.8 but lets be serious the batchat was always a garbage tank held up by the fact it was the only light tank at tier X.



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View Post____Zer0____, on 06 February 2020 - 12:38 PM, said:


I doubt the look out bar will be messed with.   If it was taken away PC players would once again have a clear advantage with missiles.  The best thing right now is to keep nerfing it the way they are now.  

No-- the best thing would be to remove missiles all together.

 

 

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View Post____Zer0____, on 06 February 2020 - 07:38 PM, said:


I doubt the look out bar will be messed with.   If it was taken away PC players would once again have a clear advantage with missiles.  The best thing right now is to keep nerfing it the way they are now.  


how so ? auto-aim lock with Mac (I guess the same with PC) doesn't work.

Tried and tried the difference between  my iPad and Mac.

Instead abuse of look out bar with. iPad allow you to get 7k damage racking tanks full hp (or almost) 

Take a look to blitzstats numbers for those tank.

It doesn't make any sense a light can deal more damage than a Td and that damages were farmed with look out bar use.

No way to get it only with Apcr or few missiles manually aimed.

 


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yes Bat chat (both) for sure needs something.

However I see that they deal a consistent damage, probably the fact is that you can't carry with it.

Too powerful guns at those tiers.

I dunno if is logic for a light tank in highest tiers or not....



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View PostExplixiit_, on 06 February 2020 - 03:29 PM, said:

And doesnt that mean the rocket isnt 152mm anymore, its like a 135mm

 

Missiles caliber stays the same. 

 

View Postboris55555, on 06 February 2020 - 03:03 PM, said:

We do. Is the look out bar aim issue going to be fixed?

 

Definitely not now. We want to start with balance adjustments at first and see what will change. 

 

View Postwannabeunicum, on 07 February 2020 - 12:21 AM, said:

>dem batchat stats.

Probably will bounce back as ATGM goes down in 6.8 but lets be serious the batchat was always a garbage tank held up by the fact it was the only light tank at tier X.

 

BatChats suffered the most because of new LTs because they are combined together. We expected such affect but not so much to be honest. 

 

View Postrosgrim, on 07 February 2020 - 08:16 AM, said:

yes Bat chat (both) for sure needs something.

However I see that they deal a consistent damage, probably the fact is that you can't carry with it.

Too powerful guns at those tiers.

I dunno if is logic for a light tank in highest tiers or not....

 

BatChat changes will be considered after we see how 6.8 changes affect overall state. 


 

 


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View PostRibbleStripe, on 07 February 2020 - 03:46 AM, said:

 

Missiles caliber stays the same. 

 

 

Definitely not now. We want to start with balance adjustments at first and see what will change. 

 

 

BatChats suffered the most because of new LTs because they are combined together. We expected such affect but not so much to be honest. 

 

 

BatChat changes will be considered after we see how 6.8 changes affect overall state. 

Thank you for the response. Thank you for the nerf I guess. However, the unintended lookout bar exploit is the main problem with the tank. Sure it was overpowered when released but we can all deal with that because generally over time nerfs and buffs balance somewhat with a few exceptions. 
 

the number one issue with the tier 9 in particular is that it is overpowered and has the ability to have a super powered aim cheat. We were told by the testers that this was not how the aim was intended and that they failed to find this bug in testing. 
 

is there a technical reason the cheat aim couldn’t be removed with this update? 


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Wow an update to fix your mistakes. Well that should keep you guys busy for the next 10 updates. Least a good thing is you guys will be able to shut down one of the NA servers soon. How about some incentive to luer some players back?




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