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boris55555 #1641 Posted 08 October 2020 - 03:32 AM

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View PostOokla_the_Mok, on 06 October 2020 - 11:29 AM, said:

 

Notice that the tier 9 graph requires a different scale than the other two because the Vickers Cruiser is out there obliterating everything.

 

Also, while we are here: REMOVE MISSILES.

 

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rosgrim #1642 Posted 08 October 2020 - 04:45 AM

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I see mainly 2 big issues:

1. the reign of Heavy Tanks. The HP buff worked as planned hmmmm or not ? someone said it won't change the game meta and the medium tanks won't be effected

2. the misery of T8 Medium Tanks.....also consequence of the above....but not only. They were suffering already before.

 

and since we are here.......make missile LOS.

 

PS: Vickers is not so OP as it seems. Just a bunch of unicum abusing and some also farming damage using the tank not correctly (In my opinion) 



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I'm going to assume that the graph shows only the top performing tanks at a given tier and class. With that being said, how the hell is the Prog 46 not at the top of the list for either category using the 55-65% WR qualifier? And since when is the Mauschen the king of the hill?! Are we in Bizarro world or is this a Russian meta phenomena?

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View PostWuh4nGrabbedDonByDaP_55y, on 09 October 2020 - 05:08 PM, said:

I'm going to assume that the graph shows only the top performing tanks at a given tier and class. With that being said, how the hell is the Prog 46 not at the top of the list for either category using the 55-65% WR qualifier? And since when is the Mauschen the king of the hill?! Are we in Bizarro world or is this a Russian meta phenomena?


It only shows tanks that are played 1% or more of the matches. 
   So newer premium tanks rarely hit the list. 
 

It is Russian server data.

They do look at NA and EU, but generally as I understand it don’t use our data unless it’s a sanity check on a buff or nerf.  
 


 


 


 

 
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A premium tank people payed money for that actually has some armor shouldn’t be bringing up the rear. Buff the 121B. I think gun handling would make the most sense, perhaps a little extra HEAT pen, or both. Right now, it’s like playing the 121 but with less alpha, and worse aim time. 
 

I also think the Tortoise deserves an armor buff. It’s way to easy to pen for the mobility it has.

 

I also think the tier 9 bat chat should get thicker turret armor. Not enough to actually bounce shots, just enough so everyone can’t penetrate with HE shells through the front of the turret.

 

And the IS-2Sh should have thicker armor behind the tracks. 60mm? You can’t even side scrape effectively with side armor that thin and that is the only advantage of having a rear turret. 
 

And I still think the Centurion I should have more DPM since it has such low alpha. 
 

Those tanks are always bringing up the rear. This would fix them imo.


and the Super Pershing still needs armor that works if it is going to be that slow. And/or better gun handling.

 


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View PostChariot_Solace, on 10 October 2020 - 10:47 AM, said:

A premium tank people payed money for that actually has some armor shouldn’t be bringing up the rear. Buff the 121B. I think gun handling would make the most sense, perhaps a little extra HEAT pen, or both. Right now, it’s like playing the 121 but with less alpha, and worse aim time. 
 

I also think the Tortoise deserves an armor buff. It’s way to easy to pen for the mobility it has.

 

I also think the tier 9 bat chat should get thicker turret armor. Not enough to actually bounce shots, just enough so everyone can’t penetrate with HE shells through the front of the turret.

 

And the IS-2Sh should have thicker armor behind the tracks. 60mm? You can’t even side scrape effectively with side armor that thin and that is the only advantage of having a rear turret. 
 

And I still think the Centurion I should have more DPM since it has such low alpha. 
 

Those tanks are always bringing up the rear. This would fix them imo.


and the Super Pershing still needs armor that works if it is going to be that slow. And/or better gun handling.

 

I agree with all of these even though I only had the BC25T AP.


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Poor batchat ap, can't stand up compared to its tier 9 light siblings.

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View PostDestroy0, on 17 October 2020 - 11:18 PM, said:

Poor batchat ap, can't stand up compared to its tier 9 light siblings.

Well, the seemingly-overcooked Vickers CR was given HE with 105mm of pen in addition to that strong mantlet, so I can see why our tier 9 Babychat is having a hard time in comparision, at least to the Vickers CR.


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What about the Annihilator and more importantly when are you going to stop putting three and four of them on a team? Doesn’t matter what other tanks are in they just get destroyed.

mamas_tummy_land #1650 Posted 27 October 2020 - 08:07 AM

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What was WG thinking (smoking or drinking) before selling the Annihilator???

You guys have ruined tier 7 and tier 6,tier 6 is unplayable now!!!

Is the higher-ups at WG so desperate for $10 that they'll totally ruin the game?

You guys have had a broken Smasher for so long that you felt it a good idea to put another broken tank in the game at tier 7???


Edited by mamas_tummy_land, 27 October 2020 - 08:51 AM.


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View Postmamas_tummy_land, on 27 October 2020 - 12:07 AM, said:

What was WG thinking (smoking or drinking) before selling the Annihilator???

You guys have ruined tier 7 and tier 6,tier 6 is unplayable now!!!

Is the higher-ups at WG so desperate for $10 that they'll totally ruin the game?

You guys have had a broken Smasher for so long that you felt it a good idea to put another broken tank in the game at tier 7???


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Buff tier 8 meds

While you're there take a look at the tier7 meds too

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View PostCommanderSean_2014, on 28 October 2020 - 03:52 PM, said:

Buff tier 8 meds

While you're there take a look at the tier7 meds too

Cough Cough panther m10 cough cough t20


Panther M10 should get an HP nerf and become a tier 6. Then it might be balanced again.


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Balance has been a mess lately. The Swedish heavies and British lights are OP,  and so is the new Halloween tank. If you’re going to make a balance error and introduce a broken tank to the game that is one thing, but when that tank is a cheesy sci-fi cartoon monstrosity, it just adds insult to injury. Just imagine getting your [edited] kicked in a real life fight by some random person. Now imagine it again but with that same person dressed up as an alien-monster-werewolf-clown. Is it worse? Of course it is.

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7.3 stats arrived. 

 

Tier 10

 

Tier 9

 

Tier 8

 


 

 


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View PostChariot_Solace, on 04 November 2020 - 09:04 AM, said:

Balance has been a mess lately. The Swedish heavies and British lights are OP

*Checks the graphs* 

Tier X looks ~kinda~ balanced, but that's probably bias due to checking out the graphs for 8&9 first.

 

 

As for the annihilator, just hop in a smasher and rebalance them with HE through the lower plate. 


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View PostTengenToppaPotatoLagann, on 04 November 2020 - 02:56 PM, said:

*Checks the graphs* 

Tier X looks ~kinda~ balanced, but that's probably bias due to checking out the graphs for 8&9 first.

 

 

As for the annihilator, just hop in a smasher and rebalance them with HE through the lower plate. 

 

Krav probably is balanced from the pov of that chart; that wasn't a huge variance to its tier in the rollout compared to other recent monsters. The Emil I forcing a complete perspective shift in the tier 8 charts is pretty darn funny though.



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View PostRibbleStripe, on 04 November 2020 - 09:15 AM, said:

7.3 stats arrived. 

 

Tier 10

 

Tier 9

 

Tier 8

 

 

Thank you for sharing this RibbleStripe! Do you think it is safe to assume that the Emil 1, Emil 2, and Vickers Cr. will receive changes in the coming updates? Or do you think changes will take place after Twister Season is over?


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There are clearly a few tanks performing well above all the rest ... 

 

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