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RibbleStripe #1681 Posted 08 December 2020 - 09:58 AM

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7.4 stats arrived

 

Tier 10

 

Tier 9

 

Tier 8

 


 

 


TheMainframe #1682 Posted 08 December 2020 - 03:17 PM

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The Emil nerfs appear to be completely warranted; the Emil II currently has the highest average damage of any of my tanks.

 

Nice to see the T95 leading tier 9 TDs


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View PostTheMainframe, on 08 December 2020 - 03:17 PM, said:

The Emil nerfs appear to be completely warranted; the Emil II currently has the highest average damage of any of my tanks.

 

Nice to see the T95 leading tier 9 TDs

 

Absolutely on the Emil I, but I wonder if we're pulling the trigger too fast on the Emil II. Yes it's still leading the charts, but it's win rate dropped nearly 3% and average damage dropped over 200 from its first chart appearance. It may have continued to naturally even out as the general player base adopted it. I would not have minded waiting one more update on it.  

 

Contrast that to the 9 Vickers which should have been dealt with ages ago.



_Wikipedia #1684 Posted 08 December 2020 - 09:39 PM

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Emil is overrated but that doesn’t mean it isn’t worthy of a nerf. The 1951 is though.

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View PostNoob666_, on 08 December 2020 - 04:39 PM, said:

Emil is overrated but that doesn’t mean it isn’t worthy of a nerf. The 1951 is though.

 

I recently checked out something that you might find interesting as well. Update 7.5 changes to the Emil 1951 on Blitzhangar.com: https://blitzhangar.com/en/update/7-5


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rosgrim #1686 Posted 17 December 2020 - 06:03 AM

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View Posttwirlingtowardsfreedom, on 08 December 2020 - 03:27 PM, said:

 

Absolutely on the Emil I, but I wonder if we're pulling the trigger too fast on the Emil II. Yes it's still leading the charts, but it's win rate dropped nearly 3% and average damage dropped over 200 from its first chart appearance. It may have continued to naturally even out as the general player base adopted it. I would not have minded waiting one more update on it.  

 

Contrast that to the 9 Vickers which should have been dealt with ages ago.


I think you are right.

Also I know that WOTB consider these stats like a "bible" to balance the tanks but statistically they are far to represent the reality

 

As I'm repeating from the beginning the number of players/battles effect the results since the charts don't include any factor (of ponderation) that "weight" the results.

I'm not talking about comparison between tanks. 

I'm talking about to get a real performance evaluation based on those numbers.

 

Stats for a Tank played by thousand of players and in thousand of battles are much more close to the real performance than those for a tank played by few hundreds.

 

Emil II and Krav are the less played tanks tier by tier (literarily at the last place) in general. 

Now since the chart use only players with WR higher than 55%  imagine how small are those numbers.

Simply irrelevant !

 

In fact you will se that both the stats of Emil II and Krav will drop dramatically as soon as more players in the range (to be evaluated in the chart) will play it

 

I want also, again and again, invite to focus on the "agony" of the medium tanks in T8 and someway even in T9


Edited by rosgrim, 17 December 2020 - 06:14 AM.


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View PostRibbleStripe, on 08 December 2020 - 09:58 AM, said:

7.4 stats arrived

 

Tier 10

 

Tier 9

 

Tier 8

 

 

Holy mother of... I knew the Emil I was OP, but this?!


Edited by BrassGun, 18 December 2020 - 01:38 AM.

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"Why buff the IS-7 when you can just buy the buffed premium Obj. 260 version?" -WG

 

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Looking at the Obj. 260, it actually appears not OP. Armor is not really there, in fact all it does have is the DPM. It's sort of a more heavily armored Conqueror at Tier X. Armor is worst in class, speed is second worst (compared to the IS-4 and IS-7). Actually looking forward to this one.

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Not gonna get a 7.5 update, maybe a 7.6?

RibbleStripe #1692 Posted 19 February 2021 - 02:10 PM

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This time here come double charts pack.

 

7.5 

 

Tier 10

 

Tier 9

 

Tier 8

 

7.6

 

Tier 10

 

Tier 9

 

Tier 8

 


 

 


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will tier7 balance sheets be tracked or those balance changes are done in a vacuum? 


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View PostRibbleStripe, on 19 February 2021 - 08:10 AM, said:

This time here come double charts pack.

 

7.5 

 

Tier 10

 

Tier 9

 

Tier 8

 

7.6

 

Tier 10

 

Tier 9

 

Tier 8

 

Since when was the T-54 mod.1 considered a light tank?

 

I'm so smart.


Edited by _Wikipedia, 20 February 2021 - 11:51 PM.

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View Post_Wikipedia, on 20 February 2021 - 01:02 PM, said:

Since when was the T-54 mod.1 considered a light tank?


You’re off a row.

It is listed as a medium.

 

The angle is confusing you.

 

If you enlarge the map it’s clearer.



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I have a question: Why is it that easy, forgiving heavy tanks are allowed to dominate the game for over 2 years, but when the already difficult to play FV4202 was buffed to receive a fantastic 265APCR/330HEAT/230HESH gun 3 years ago, WG has a hissy fit and nerfs it within 2 updates?

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the oblivion of Med tanks.......

"Giving more HP to the heavies won't effect the performance of Medium, on contrary they will have the chance to deal more damage...."

 

Huahahahahahahaha (I did the same loud laughter at that time)


Edited by rosgrim, 21 February 2021 - 05:50 AM.


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View Post_Wikipedia, on 20 February 2021 - 10:02 PM, said:

Since when was the T-54 mod.1 considered a light tank?

 

I'm so smart.

LOL!

 

View PostDark_Magician_Girl, on 21 February 2021 - 03:42 AM, said:

I have a question: Why is it that easy, forgiving heavy tanks are allowed to dominate the game for over 2 years, but when the already difficult to play FV4202 was buffed to receive a fantastic 265APCR/330HEAT/230HESH gun 3 years ago, WG has a hissy fit and nerfs it within 2 updates?

 

I don't think equaling a class adjustment and a certain tank one is a good idea. 


 

 


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View PostRibbleStripe, on 23 February 2021 - 09:53 AM, said:

LOL!

 

 

I don't think equaling a class adjustment and a certain tank one is a good idea. 


The same can be said about nerfing mediums pen to force them into a flanking role while at the same time buffing heavies to a point that they can easily engage mediums that attempt to out traverse them. Is this a good idea?


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Dan_Deerso #1700 Posted Today, 12:25 AM

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Could we get a breakdown of the most used tanks in tournaments per tier group? I'm certain you have that data, there have been balance changes listing that data as one of the direct reasons.






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