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daREAL_trainboi #1721 Posted 16 March 2021 - 03:36 AM

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I'd do the same thing (IS-8 to 277) but replace the 260 with the 257, since 260 is a Tier X collector in Blitz anyway.

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View PostLtRaseiniai, on 15 March 2021 - 01:16 PM, said:

 

You're right.  Why would we panic.

 

Wg would never release ridiculously unbalanced tanks.

 

We know we we can trust you for that.

 

Lol! To be fair they do put a lot more effort into balancing tier 10.



RibbleStripe #1723 Posted 16 March 2021 - 10:45 AM

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7.7 stats.

 

Tier 10

 

Tier 9

 

Tier 8

 

 


 

 


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View PostRibbleStripe, on 16 March 2021 - 05:45 AM, said:

7.7 stats.

 

Tier 10

 

Tier 9

 

Tier 8

 

 

 

Will Centurion 1 receive some love?



daREAL_trainboi #1725 Posted 16 March 2021 - 04:06 PM

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Ikr, even though I can work with other T8 meds the Cent (and Caernarvon) need buffs.

 

I've said this so many times, but buff the turrets on both the Cents and the Caern/Conqueror, and buff the alpha. Cent needs 225, so does Caern, and the latter should get the 32pdr gun as well, so it can actually trade with other heavies. 


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daREAL_trainboi #1726 Posted 16 March 2021 - 04:18 PM

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Also, give the KV-2 it's old HE pen back. Tier VI and V have been buffed way to much now and the KV-2 struggles even more than it did before all these useless buffs. Give it back it's HE pen so it at least has a chance now.

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Player_0000000007 #1727 Posted 17 March 2021 - 03:02 AM

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Looks like 121b is suffering a bit. It lacks gun depression and seems somewhat slow but I didn't think it'd be at the bottom of the tier 10 meds.

But missiles weren't even that overpowered...

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It is so interesting to me how who plays the tank can skew it so drastically. 
 

Let’s look at the TVP, it’s a fairly mediocre tank, really it has a gun and nothing else. 
   But it’s the top tier 8 med. 

Which will then sucker folks to get it and play it - and because the early adopting unicums are done with it, it’s stats will tank next update. 
 

Compared to most of the other tier 8 tech tree meds, it’s over performing, but in all actuality it’s worse than a majority of them. 
   But hardly anyone is playing TT meds beyond grinds, as there are way better premiums in tier 8 to play and those make credits for tier 10 game play.  


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The Centurion I is just crying in the corner.


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View Post_BobaFett, on 18 March 2021 - 07:32 AM, said:

The Centurion I is just crying in the corner.

 

I've started calling it the Can'turion I.



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View PostNICKEL_AND_DIME, on 18 March 2021 - 08:30 AM, said:

 

I've started calling it the Can'turion I.


You forgot C*nturion.

 


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Mika_The_Vampire #1732 Posted 20 March 2021 - 09:16 AM

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View PostPlayer_5773117413, on 17 March 2021 - 03:02 AM, said:

Looks like 121b is suffering a bit. It lacks gun depression and seems somewhat slow but I didn't think it'd be at the bottom of the tier 10 meds.

i like the tank, but i can see why it is that low. the tank is now in a similar situation to the Object 140.

there really is no point in buying it now when the 121 has very similar DPM and only a slightly worse reload wile having very similar stats every where else. 

the object 140 is in the same position compared to the T-62A, except that the object 140 and T-62A are both TT.

what is the real point in buying the 121B when you can just play a the 121 which hits harder and has a similar reload, making it more consistent. 

 

i do like the 121B, but there really isnt much point to the tank in it's current situation. i guess its good if you love how the 121 plays and want a premium version of it that gives up some alpha for RoF.

 

i am going to try to play it more in special gamemodes/rating matches.

thats what i see anyway when you compare it to its 3 main competitors.

 

121B DPM : 3,042  damage per shot:350 reload: 6.90s

121 DPM  not purchased: 3,021 damage per shot:420 reload:8.34s

T-62A/140 DPM not purchased:3,154 damage per shot:310 reload:5.90s

tank compare

 

 

 


Edited by Mika_The_Vampire, 20 March 2021 - 09:17 AM.

 


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Actually, the 121B is slated (according to Blitzhangar's update 7.8 preview) to receive some buffin' next update. Yay! :teethhappy:

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Mika_The_Vampire #1734 Posted 21 March 2021 - 02:01 AM

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View PostMarkus_The0, on 21 March 2021 - 01:58 AM, said:

Actually, the 121B is slated (according to Blitzhangar's update 7.8 preview) to receive some buffin' next update. Yay! :teethhappy:

what is the buff? if it says.


 


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View Post_Crusader6_, on 18 March 2021 - 12:18 PM, said:

It is so interesting to me how who plays the tank can skew it so drastically. 
 

Let’s look at the TVP, it’s a fairly mediocre tank, really it has a gun and nothing else. 
   But it’s the top tier 8 med. 

Which will then sucker folks to get it and play it - and because the early adopting unicums are done with it, it’s stats will tank next update. 
 

Compared to most of the other tier 8 tech tree meds, it’s over performing, but in all actuality it’s worse than a majority of them. 
   But hardly anyone is playing TT meds beyond grinds, as there are way better premiums in tier 8 to play and those make credits for tier 10 game play.  


Indeed

As I keep repeating to better understand those stats one should look also the number of players using the tank: all the line TVP, Skoda, T50 are 500 players or so and if you consider those that are above 55% WR....what are we talking about ? 100 ? A sample like that is simply not relevant.

We will see something reliable when we'll get a larger number of players


Edited by rosgrim, 21 March 2021 - 03:57 AM.


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View PostMika_The_Vampire, on 20 March 2021 - 03:16 AM, said:

i like the tank, but i can see why it is that low. the tank is now in a similar situation to the Object 140.

there really is no point in buying it now when the 121 has very similar DPM and only a slightly worse reload wile having very similar stats every where else. 

the object 140 is in the same position compared to the T-62A, except that the object 140 and T-62A are both TT.

what is the real point in buying the 121B when you can just play a the 121 which hits harder and has a similar reload, making it more consistent. 

 

i do like the 121B, but there really isnt much point to the tank in it's current situation. i guess its good if you love how the 121 plays and want a premium version of it that gives up some alpha for RoF.

 

i am going to try to play it more in special gamemodes/rating matches.

thats what i see anyway when you compare it to its 3 main competitors.

 

121B DPM : 3,042  damage per shot:350 reload: 6.90s

121 DPM  not purchased: 3,021 damage per shot:420 reload:8.34s

T-62A/140 DPM not purchased:3,154 damage per shot:310 reload:5.90s

tank compare

 

 

 


I thought the 105 cannon on a t54 derivative would be a great combo but it turns out to be only mediocre. Despite the terrain resistance specs, it still feels sluggish when moving. And the lack of gun depression seriously hampers a lot of potential. Maybe if it had that extra degree of gun depression and a somewhat more powerful engine...?


But missiles weren't even that overpowered...

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Mika_The_Vampire #1737 Posted 21 March 2021 - 09:04 AM

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View PostPlayer_5773117413, on 21 March 2021 - 06:36 AM, said:


I thought the 105 cannon on a t54 derivative would be a great combo but it turns out to be only mediocre. Despite the terrain resistance specs, it still feels sluggish when moving. And the lack of gun depression seriously hampers a lot of potential. Maybe if it had that extra degree of gun depression and a somewhat more powerful engine...?

ya, i think 1 degree more gun depression would be great. it seems like they are buffing the mobility and gun handling:

https://blitzhangar....ate/7-8-preview

121b

dispersion when rotating turret: 0.60 > 0.50

traverse speed when on:

hard: 52.15 > 57.37

medium: 44.13 > 48.54

soft: 28.68 > 31.55

 

but ya, i do think a gun depression buff would majorly help this tank.


Edited by Mika_The_Vampire, 21 March 2021 - 09:07 AM.

 


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Improve the object 140, this tank is awful now

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Either buff the Batchat intra-clip to 2.5 or give it 350 alpha.

Stop with the micro-buffs that don't do anything.

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Too many unexperienced players are making calls in the beginning of the game that are contributing to terrible game play.

 Is there any way that you can Color code the players on your own team to their win rate? And also put a Amount of battles bar underneath there name.so you can see their base battle count and judge who to listen to?

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