Dan_Deerso, on 19 April 2018 - 04:49 PM, said:
Man, I love these anti- RO 105mm L7 posts, but could you please back it up with some sources? I personally prefer government documents, especially foreign if that helps you any.
It's not Anti Royal Ordinance L7 at all. It's a consequence of first generation APDS, which gets trolled by angled armor. Consider my source WWII ballistics and... Something. Against the T-54A (for example), it's like shooting 354mm of vertical armor. Ingame T-54? 424.8
Which the shell obviously can't pierce.
https://forum.warthu...lope-modifiers/
http://www.mediafire...and Gunnery.pdf
If we want to talk about the T-55 we'd have to bring in the 40mm of lead armor they stuck in as protection against nuclear bombs (for the crew, radiation protection), but god forbid a Soviet tank have it's true armor protection amirite? It's almost as if it acted as a spall liner. Or even part of the armor. Who knew?
While we're at it, may as well mention the Super Pershings "spaced armor" is actually mostly boiler plate, meaning it offers much less than what it's rated for ingame.
therealrattler, on 19 April 2018 - 09:12 PM, said:
Yes but it's a game and while all the above historical facts are true, the tanks wouldn't be balanced whatsoever
Well actually it means the Russian tech tree is theoretically undertiered, and could be rebalanced by up tiering in places. But in terms of current game balance, that would only work if you took away some gun handling.
Like a proper T-54B (1957) in tier 10, being an option. Or T-62A with historical gun depression, something resembling the power, and (-26mm turret) armor protection.
Technically the turret is a ~1970's model in protection, but is modeled as an 1960's version. While it's not half as bad as the late 1970's M48 Patton, at least an A5 model, but with a better cupola, it's still quite the transgression.
Granted, the alternative is to make the T-62A have the best firepower & tied for best shot effectiveness of any medium tank in tier 10, equaling the 140 in bloom (moved to 0.04/0.06/0.06), with 7* of gun depression, with the only downside being standard AP at 1015 m/s. So pick your poison~
Many other tanks would benefit however, like for example, German turret cheek armor would become virtually impregnable. The Sherman would gain substantial armor protection on the upper frontal plate. The Panther would also become substantially better armored. Let alone tier 10 examples like the M60, FV 4202, M48, and STB-1. IS-7 would have to be removed though...
Which by the way, is already discounting the incorrect armor pattern.
NATO tanks tend to have some issues in modelling, but the Soviet ones are... On their own level.