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__Crusader6__ #621 Posted 20 June 2018 - 04:55 AM

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The WZ-110 was the one useful Chinese heavy - a real heavium. 

   Great DPM, but lack of IS type armor.  

 Bad Change, as now it’s just another Chinese lemon tank inferior to everything.  

 

LTTB, meh probably did have too much as it could bounce a lot frontally even some tier 8 Guns.  

 

T-34-2,  a harder turret won’t help.  When the Hyoe 59 out DPM’s it, something is wrong...

 

 


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View PostmichaeItsoon, on 17 June 2018 - 10:05 AM, said:

 

"Anti-armor parachute infantryman"

 

Lol wut?

 

Yup... look it up.  


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View Postblindsniper74, on 20 June 2018 - 07:06 AM, said:

 

Yup... look it up.  

 

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View Post__Crusader6__, on 20 June 2018 - 04:55 AM, said:

The WZ-110 was the one useful Chinese heavy - a real heavium. 

   Great DPM, but lack of IS type armor.  

 Bad Change, as now it’s just another Chinese lemon tank inferior to everything. 

 

 

Statically the WZ-110 is overpowered. According to Russian statistics the tank is averaging a 65% win rate, that’s higher than the defender, and is also the highest for tier8 . I don’t think the changes will make the tank “another Chinese lemon tank,” because it’s still going to have the great armor and gun, just in a less overpowered manner. 


                             


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View PostHisRoyalFatness, on 25 June 2018 - 08:32 PM, said:

Statically the WZ-110 is overpowered. According to Russian statistics the tank is averaging a 65% win rate, that’s higher than the defender, and is also the highest for tier8 . I don’t think the changes will make the tank “another Chinese lemon tank,” because it’s still going to have the great armor and gun, just in a less overpowered manner. 

 

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View Post11H2P_1_505th_PIR, on 08 June 2018 - 09:44 PM, said:

this whole balance garbage is just that.... garbage! ive been playing this game since late 2014 and i chose my veh.'s based on the characteristics they had at the time... no updated nerfed them... heck i didnt think that was a possibity... i mean how can you balance the historical characteristics if something? especially war eqipment---improvements is how it works in the real world.. adding to capabilties, but never reducing  them.

i served 6 years as a anti-armour parachute-infantryman and i dont recall any frickn balancing accuring back then i even spent my last enlistment working with arms manufacturers (ratheon, lockead-marten) developing infantry anti-armour weapon systems....  i know soft-bodied tech guys no nothing of what im talking about and i bet would puke if they just smelled a tank after  it had been smoked; on the other gand,   screwing those of us that worked hard for our tanks so the unskilled can stay unskilled by "balancing" isnt so hard for them

Balance shmalance! if the tanks are weaker in some characteristic than others... well u use to have to develope and hone ur skills to be effectively competitive... i never had the feeling of getting screwed until all this "balancing" speak and emplemetation therof started... wot is either listening to the whiners feedback; or the reasons have another intent... (they know what im talking about... dont ya'll) well wg wont gett any from me till it stops... oh and ur MM balancing (again they know what im talking about) stops as well.. at least with my acount... make me loyal again and i got no problem helping to add to the revinue flow... nit till then tho. 

off my soap box now.

 

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View PostRibbleStripe, on 19 June 2018 - 06:37 AM, said:

We want these vehicles to be different. 

 

With all respect, what you want and what your developers do are in direct opposition

 

 

You've introduced yet ANOTHER lobotomy-simple IS# clone that will undoubtedly overperform just like the other tanks with which it shares nearly every attribute.... meanwhile, more than a few tanks at the tier are borderline unplayable because they face nothing but hordes of these... EVERY.  SINGLE.  GAME.

 

Tier 8 is minusfun, and y'all haven't really done much to change that.


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Is it true lower tiers are going to remove Equipment and Provisions as well as some consumables?

 

What will this do to my premium tanks that I paid MONEY for, and back when Spare Parts were a hard to get currency poured into those tanks and WAITED for the timers?



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Hey Ribble,
For the 4th of July crates, could u put in a suggestion to make them available for gold so players can access them in case they've already spent money on gold?
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Great job Ribble on the selling for July 4th. Gave us option for crates, gold, or cash. Thank you

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View PostOnly_Monica, on 17 June 2018 - 09:10 PM, said:

So where does the T-34-3 and the WZ Blaze stand in their tiers? Waited for that data a couple months so it would be accurate, will these tanks get buffs?

 

View PostRibbleStripe, on 18 June 2018 - 02:10 AM, said:

 

Blaze is okay, T-34-3 needs buff and we'll think how to improve it.

 

Here is my issue with the Chinese mediums that use heavy tank guns, T-34-2, T-34-3, WZ-120, and WZ-121, you give them heavy tank alpha, but not the pen. Add to that the worst DPM in class even with respect to many heavies, and these tanks are POINTLESS in the game. They have no unique gameplay nor advantage that makes them desirable and playable. WG, you want to fix these tanks? If they have heavy tank guns, then give them heavy tank penetration and make the DPM on par with the heavies. 


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View PostRibbleStripe, on 06 June 2018 - 06:30 AM, said:

 

That's how random battles work. Experienced players can be your enemies or allies with the same chance. If you don't like random matchmaker you can fight in rating battles.

 

View PostRoadKutter, on 06 June 2018 - 07:10 AM, said:

 

Lol, who has 10 minutes to wait around for one match? A lot of times there is only enough players for 3v3. 

 

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View PostABN_Bearcat, on 03 July 2018 - 02:23 PM, said:

 

 

Here is my issue with the Chinese mediums that use heavy tank guns, T-34-2, T-34-3, WZ-120, and WZ-121, you give them heavy tank alpha, but not the pen. Add to that the worst DPM in class even with respect to many heavies, and these tanks are POINTLESS in the game. They have no unique gameplay nor advantage that makes them desirable and playable. WG, you want to fix these tanks? If they have heavy tank guns, then give them heavy tank penetration and make the DPM on par with the heavies. 

 

Umm. No. That would be OP. They have mobility and strong turrets and low profiles to compensate. 

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View PostChariot_Solace, on 03 July 2018 - 10:16 PM, said:

 

Umm. No. That would be OP. They have mobility and strong turrets and low profiles to compensate. 

yeah... But they have gun depression to counter their own turret in the first place, with weakspots about twice the size of their common opponents on top.

That is clearly why the T-34-2 is such a great tank. Or the WZ-120. Or the Type 58.

 

 

Oh they aren't? But the T-34-1 is? Could it be because unlike said examples, the T-34-1 has actually good firepower, especially for it's tier?

Who could've known.


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The 152mm on the T49 needs some love. It needs it's pre-nerf pen and reload back. Module dmg should stay at its current level.

Also its ammunition needs to be looked at. HEAT is next to useless. The tank needs a standard HE round and a premium HE round in addition to its mediocre HEAT round.

WG nobody cares what you do to the 90mm on this tank. Players play it for the 152mm.  Please stop trying to social engineer us into playing the 90mm.

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View PostSpartacusDiablo, on 06 July 2018 - 03:04 PM, said:

The 152mm on the T49 needs some love. It needs it's pre-nerf pen and reload back. Module dmg should stay at its current level.

Also its ammunition needs to be looked at. HEAT is next to useless. The tank needs a standard HE round and a premium HE round in addition to its mediocre HEAT round.

WG nobody cares what you do to the 90mm on this tank. Players play it for the 152mm.  Please stop trying to social engineer us into playing the 90mm.

 

T49 is #1 in average damage and winrate among tier 8 light tanks. It doesn't seem like love is needed )
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View PostRibbleStripe, on 06 July 2018 - 07:29 AM, said:

 

T49 is #1 in average damage and winrate among tier 8 light tanks. It doesn't seem like love is needed )

So... No missiles then?

 

Seriously though I'd be curious to know how much of that damage comes from HEAT rounds.  As far as it being #1 that kind of surprises me but I guess it makes sense.   Playing lights in the IS heavy tier 8 can be trying at times.  The ability to smack them with a IS# or its clone with a HE round for 2-300 dmg where other lights may have bounced is nice.  I'd still like to see a change to the ammo types.  I think a good mix would be a standard HEAT round, a standard HE round, and a premium HE round with KV-2 Alpha, but less pen.

 

That's just my two cents though.


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What about Panther II? Maybe a traverse buff?

If you are going my stats, it has the second worst 90 day WR for t8 meds. (via Blitzstars). Maybe your numbers are different but that is pretty well down at the bottom of the barrel, considering how many t8 meds there are.

As for in-game analysis, I haven't played it nearly enough to form an opinion, but I am sure there are many players out there who think that this tank is lagging behind its competition.


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Pershing buff, anyone?

 

Ribble, please do tell, what exactly does the Pershing bring to the table of tier 8 mediums that others do not?

 

 

It has a 90mm with 225 alpha and 180mm of pen: Average.

 

It has a 48 kilometer per hour top speed limit with a mediocre power to weight ratio: Below average.

 

It has absolutely abysmal hull armor, and a turret that's gun shield has huge, easy to pen cheeks right through the middle, to go along with the HEable cheeks on either side of the turret: Below average

 

It has a frontally mounted turret with 10 degrees of gun depression. That's nice, but the FCM 50t, or the T69, or Super Pershing, or the Centurion, or the STA-1, or any of these tanks have that, and something else that they bring to the table: Above average

 

I'm not saying the Pershing is in any league of terribleness with the likes of the Panther 8,8 or the M4 Ravioli, but is definitely in need of some lovin' in my opinion.


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