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BrickSniper33A #761 Posted 16 August 2018 - 04:08 AM

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View PostDark_Magician_Girl, on 16 August 2018 - 03:04 AM, said:

 

I ask because ribble confirmed previously that buffs were to be given to the tier 8 and 9 SU's, but they could not figure out how to improve them yet.

 

It's hopefully going to be a Gun Depression buff for the SU-101. (WZ-120 looks up from its dark, rainy cave with tears.)

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View PostBrickSniper33A, on 15 August 2018 - 11:08 PM, said:

 

It's hopefully going to be a Gun Depression buff for the SU-101. (WZ-120 looks up from its dark, rainy cave with tears.)

 

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RoadKutter #763 Posted 16 August 2018 - 04:42 AM

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Hey Ribble, we all know that the devs are changing low tiers over 3 updates. Its all good to me if you want to improve the player base. Can you please explain to me how are you be dealing with all the new players buying but most likely getting tier 8 premiums from crates?

I mean there is nothing better than  a guy with less than 100 battles in a Löwe maybe firing a shot and missing before he dies in the first 40sec of a battle?

I'm sure the frustration of all the chat rage and the incoming warnings or penalties via MH will make that guy want to play more; lol


                         

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View PostBrickSniper33A, on 16 August 2018 - 04:08 AM, said:

 

It's hopefully going to be a Gun Depression buff for the SU-101. (WZ-120 looks up from its dark, rainy cave with tears.)

Actual SU-101 was capable of 2 degrees of gun depression.

SU-102 (SU-101 modified for 122) was capable of 0.26*

 

 

What was so special about these tanks then?

They had excellent balance in the suspension, armor, speed, firepower, reliability, anti armor performance, profile, etc.

 

While the RL shell physics that caused the SU-101 to have heavy tank armor at 36 tons won't be around, my balance post provides my opinion on how to make it less terrible.

 

 

 

When I say heavy tank armor, I mean the tank could stop very powerful guns. When I say excellent balance, I mean that unlike many other tanks of it's class, the vehicle had a properly balanced center of mass. Speed? Straight from the T-44. Reliability? Probably not on par with the WW2 era T-34's sold to the Africans that are still in operation, but possibly still similar. Anti armor? Historical gun performance would be great thanks.

 

 

And while I'm here I'd like to point out the SU-101 and 122-54 were competing designs on different platforms. The SU-101 lost because the hull it was based on was out of date.



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No cupola changes to the Type 59 Patton? Will Legendary camos be available for FV215b and FV4202? Also will some tanks in testing be available?

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Yea for awhile there, you guys were dropping tier X legendary camos every update. And then surprisingly the new Chinese tier Xs didn’t have them upon release like usual and you slowed down on the other tier Xs as well. I know you said every tier 10 will have one eventually. Any others coming soon? I thought for sure the E50M would get one right after the buff that made it popular again.

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anonym_2ZNiJLJL8ln2 #767 Posted 17 August 2018 - 10:51 PM

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WZ-120 doesn't need better gun depression, to be a good tier 9, it needs a better gun. And between 2* of gun depression and an effective main gun, I prefer the latter.

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View PostOicraftian, on 17 August 2018 - 10:51 PM, said:

WZ-120 doesn't need better gun depression, to be a good tier 9, it needs a better gun. And between 2* of gun depression and an effective main gun, I prefer the latter.

 

That simply comes down to a difference of opinion. I don't care for the historical aspect of a tank if that means the tank sucks. It is my opinion, that the gun on the WZ-120 is actually quite capable. The only way you could make the gun good enough to compensate for the lack of depression would be to make it so good, that in certain situations, the tank could be near unstoppable. As someone who prefers gun depression over almost all other statistics, I feel that 5*, on par with Russian mediums, would make the tank perfectly balanced. Again, it's my opinion, and a rather common one, but it is still how I feel on the matter.

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Also, can you guys buff the M4A1 revalorise to 350 alpha instead of 310? 310 is kinda weak for a tank with very little else going for it.

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View PostPosit1ve_, on 18 August 2018 - 03:42 PM, said:

Also, can you guys buff the M4A1 revalorise to 350 alpha instead of 310? 310 is kinda weak for a tank with very little else going for it.

 

I'll take alpha over DPM in this case

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View PosttheFANTASTICfox, on 19 August 2018 - 09:52 AM, said:

 

I'll take alpha over DPM in this case

 

Yeah, the tank is pretty lack Luster. Even though the alpha is supposedly 310 I don't seem to roll much higher than 280...



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I'm scared for 5.3 adjustments :():

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Guys you kind of over did the DPM on the Black Prince...  You almost doubled its rate of fire.  

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View PostSpartacusDiablo, on 22 August 2018 - 02:47 AM, said:

Guys you kind of over did the DPM on the Black Prince... You almost doubled its rate of fire.

I'm cool with it. It's sucked for so long it deserves tiger treatment



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View Posthandofstal1n, on 21 August 2018 - 08:55 PM, said:

I'm scared for 5.3 adjustments :():

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Poor Is2 Chinese variant is being blatantly made worse then its Russian counterparts.

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View PostDestroy0, on 22 August 2018 - 12:47 PM, said:

Poor Is2 Chinese variant is being blatantly made worse then its Russian counterparts.

The armor part is historical because the Soviets judged a reduction in armor was insignificant in effect against Western guns of it's time, which generally could not dream of piercing the upper frontal plate.

View PostBrickSniper33A, on 18 August 2018 - 01:32 AM, said:

 

That simply comes down to a difference of opinion. I don't care for the historical aspect of a tank if that means the tank sucks. It is my opinion, that the gun on the WZ-120 is actually quite capable. The only way you could make the gun good enough to compensate for the lack of depression would be to make it so good, that in certain situations, the tank could be near unstoppable. As someone who prefers gun depression over almost all other statistics, I feel that 5*, on par with Russian mediums, would make the tank perfectly balanced. Again, it's my opinion, and a rather common one, but it is still how I feel on the matter.

 

In PC it had substantially better DPM relative to it's peers, and roughly had the bloom to do a snapshot. 0.15/all.

The aim time was somewhat poor, but 240+ pen was adequate. Alpha in PC is 440.

 

So for blitz, high AP pen (for a medium), higher alpha, ROF, better bloom, in exchange for aim time.

 

The way the Chinese are now they will never be competitive against a reasonable player. You will lose damage trades to Leopards.

 

 

You don't need to make it unstoppable, if you think it needs that much to work with 3* of gun dep, then you're being silly. It just needs to do it's work faster, but not necessarily more precisely.



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Has there been any talk of giving the T28 and T28 Proto a speed buff?

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Any news on chieftain t95 buff Ribble?

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View PostSpartacusDiablo, on 21 August 2018 - 06:47 PM, said:

Guys you kind of over did the DPM on the Black Prince... You almost doubled its rate of fire.

 

Shhhh, the Black Prince deserves this treatment. Well...maybe they can nerf it to be on par with the Comet.

 






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