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_Yours_Truly #1 Posted 08 December 2017 - 01:49 PM

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I had the T49 when it was never nerfed and I kind of remember the module damage on the he shells was somewhere in the 400s. Since they heavily nerfed it HE shells don't have as much pen or module damage (is now 200 something). My suggestion is to give back some of its module damage to around 300. Is there any chance I can get wargaming opinion on this?


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Pittoors_ #2 Posted 08 December 2017 - 02:00 PM

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If I recall correctly, now it has the standard module damage for all other 152mm guns. I don't think it needs to be changed.

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slayer_____ #3 Posted 08 December 2017 - 02:04 PM

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They can certainly reduce the cost per shell. 4800 for 200+ average damage is ridiculous. 

CelticVoivod #4 Posted 08 December 2017 - 02:09 PM

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The nerf was just too much, in my opinion. Some middle ground would've been nice. I was getting at least one ammo rack per battle but now I hardly ever get them at all. One per battle was indeed a bit much but even if it was one per 4 battles, I'd be happy. 

 

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__The_Dude_30__ #5 Posted 08 December 2017 - 02:29 PM

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I think it probably needed a nerf, but not a big one. Keep the module damage the same, but reverse everything else. I feel that would be a well balanced tank.

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Brundog #6 Posted 08 December 2017 - 02:48 PM

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It should get the same alpha damage as the KV-2 and SU-152.  Especially considering the KV-2 gets better penetration at tier 6.

SanguinaryDan #7 Posted 08 December 2017 - 03:13 PM

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I’m with the doggie.  Lower velocity and a lighter shell casing reduce the penetration numbers. Fine.  But unless it actually had a dramatically smaller warhead than the Russian guns it needs to have equivalent damage potential.
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doonglerules #8 Posted 08 December 2017 - 03:41 PM

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Then they gotta buff the Kpz70 because having less alpha than a light tank a tier lower but almost the exact same rof is fcking criminal

 


wannabeunicum #9 Posted 08 December 2017 - 05:26 PM

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Give it a 960 dmg HE shell with 1 mm penetration

 



Bmj246 #10 Posted 30 January 2019 - 02:54 AM

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When I first played it I thought if this goes through imana do 960 dmg. Nope!:arta: I only got 780 anoying

 and come on it’s a t8?! The kv2 has same caliber and it does 960dmg! Come on. Have a little decency WG!:izmena:


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50_Action_Expresso #11 Posted 30 January 2019 - 03:25 AM

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I think I covered this but to explain:

 

The T49 on WOT PC has 2 HE shells and a HEAT shell.

 

Its first HE shell offers 910 damage per shot, 76mm of penetration, and a 3.66m burst radius.

 

Its HEAT shell offers 700 damage and 152mm of penetration.

 

Its second HE shell is why our Blitz T49 does not have normal HE: 910 damage, 85mm of penetration, and a 5.11m burst radius.

 

That's right; it offers NO disadvantage, despite being a premium shell... Hm, I wonder what tank this reminds us all of... Oh right, the Type 5 Heavy with its 152mm cannon.

 

WG explicitly added JUST the one premium HE shell and the non premium HEAT shell in an effort to make the T49 balanced. As for why the T49 does not have same caliber alpha, it's quite simple. What does everyone in the game do when a FV215b 183 or Obj 268 or Jageroo are in a match at Tier 10? That's right, they sit and hide until one unfortunate scout goes and spots the TDs and dies for his effort.

 

WG is trying to prevent the T49 (and by extension the KpfPz 70) from being a tank destroyer instead of a light tank. Not to mention that in my opinion, a massive gun combined with superb mobility is completely broken on small maps like in Blitz.

 

 

EDIT: Large oof when realizing op want T49 HE module damage back. I'm so used to complaints about its alpha that I didn't bother looking.

 

BTW, no. That module damage was absurdly broken and the T49 spam before it was needed was extremely cancer. The module damage nerf was fine. I feel the penetration and accuracy needs weren't but he module was.


Edited by RommelTanker, 31 January 2019 - 06:47 PM.

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Boomer625 #14 Posted 21 May 2019 - 11:29 PM

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Sry but I have no where to really post this....

 

I pulled my T49 out and I have found that the T49 is still a pretty fun tank.

Slamming HE in the back of American heavies is satisfying. This also applies for SP1C, Bulldog, and the German Bulldog.


Edited by Boomer625, 21 May 2019 - 11:29 PM.





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