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ixie #1 Posted 08 December 2017 - 09:26 PM

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Blitz News has come through! [inside these brackets is my opinion]

I assume "Stabilization" means dispersion/accuracy.

 

- Tankenstein (Frankkenstank according to them [edited]) - Some armor, Stabilization, Mobility [Armor Buff, with mobility? That's going to be op.]

- Lupus - Mobility [Likely just turret traverse I would think. Probably not huge.]

- Predator - DPM, Mobility, Engine Strength and Fire Resistance [Thats gonna be op. MORE DPM? Fire resistance wasn't the main problem for me, however, the engine was damaged a ton. Mobility buff will be welcomed as well. I would like it much better if it was faster]

- Nameless - Reverse, Stabilization, Mobility [I think these are unnecessary, however, the tank could use some mobility I guess]
 
- Black Price - DPM, Mobility [Definitely a good idea. Brings this guy back into competition.]

- M6A2E1 - DPM, mobility [I guess that would be a good idea, however it is strong enough as is. Tier 6 and 7 will have a hard time with the armor. The DPM is meant to be crap, however, maybe it's too crap? Mobility would also be helpful. It looks like it should be faster than it is]

- Т29 - DPM, Reverse speed, Stabilization, Mobility [This would be a great idea. I have noticed the DPM is a little lackluster, and the mobility is also kinda bad for the armor it has.]

- KV-3 - Stabilization, Mobility, Reverse Speed [I doubt this will be huge. I assume the gun will stay Russian, and it will still be quite slow. Right now it is TOO slow though.] 

- IS - Mobility, Reverse Speed, Stabilization [I doubt this is huge]
- VK45.03 - DPM, mobility, Reverse speed [This will make this tank much better, but I think people still like it as is. It will become more of a heavium, and that will probably be welcomed]

- Tiger I - DPM, Mobility, speed back, a bit of armor [I guess that would be nice, because, for its mobility for a medium, the armor doesn't cut it. This will fix it. I do wonder if they will put the DPM higher than the predator though]

- AMX M4 45 - DPM, reverse speed [Since the Tiger 1 is getting a buff, this thing should get one too! It was a bit powercreeped given the lack of armor, since it cannot sidescrape like the Tiger. Now it can be more effective with pure DPM.]

- Tiger P - DPM, Stabilization, Armor, Mobility, Reverse speed [This will be good. The Tiger (P)'s armor just won't get it done, and the mobility and low-alpha gun aren't that good. Now, it will be as mobile as its fellow heavies, and the armor will be able to work (better. It bounces a ton, and at least makes you aim!). DPM will also be good, and I assume Wargaming will keep it at one round/minute less than the Tiger I. ]


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eddie13_ #2 Posted 08 December 2017 - 10:02 PM

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These changes are purely to combat the medium/light meta that is tier 7 right now.

    

 

 


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+DPM for Tiger I and M4-45 :D

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4sfield #5 Posted 08 December 2017 - 10:12 PM

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View Posteddie13_, on 08 December 2017 - 05:02 PM, said:

These changes are purely to combat the medium/light meta that is tier 7 right now.

 

  They’re turning tier VII into what tier X is.

 

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Duke_87 #6 Posted 08 December 2017 - 10:13 PM

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Buffing the Mutant Jr and Lupus is just silly.  They need SOME weaknesses.

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Bob3468 #7 Posted 08 December 2017 - 10:18 PM

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Very soon heavies will dominate everything.
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4sfield #8 Posted 08 December 2017 - 10:21 PM

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  It’s going to make tier VI mediums less attractive. They need to reverse the pramo and pen nerfs.

 

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Brundog #9 Posted 08 December 2017 - 10:33 PM

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I am sure this will all go well with no unintended consequences.

NitroTheCreator #10 Posted 08 December 2017 - 10:37 PM

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T29 needs a buff? Since when??? One of the best tier for tier tanks in the game. 

 

Im glad the Vk 45.03 is getting a buff, needs an armor buff instead though...



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View PostBob3468, on 08 December 2017 - 10:18 PM, said:

Very soon heavies will dominate everything.

 

You mean once again. Heavies should be the bad asses of the battlefield! I’ve owned Tankenstien since it entered blitz and it has been absolutely powercreeped as far as mobility and just can’t hang with all these fast tanks can’t wait to give it a go after the buff!

RommelTanker #12 Posted 08 December 2017 - 10:49 PM

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View PostDuke_87, on 08 December 2017 - 02:13 PM, said:

Buffing the Mutant Jr and Lupus is just silly.  They need SOME weaknesses.

 

They do. It's this concept called a "turret cheek". Mayhap you've never seen it?

 

Essentially, both the Lupus and Mutant Jr. suffer from the same lack luster turret cheeks as tanks like the Maus at Tier X and most Soviet tanks with a round front turret (IS, KV-1S, T-44, T-34-85, etc). This makes them easily penetrable when they go into hull down positions. Simply load premium ammo and shoot for either the sides of the gun for the Lupus or the tips of the turret sides on the Mutant Jr. You'll see what I mean hopefully.


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_Crusader6_ #13 Posted 08 December 2017 - 10:54 PM

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View PostRommelTanker, on 08 December 2017 - 05:49 PM, said:

 

They do. It's this concept called a "turret cheek". Mayhap you've never seen it?

 

Essentially, both the Lupus and Mutant Jr. suffer from the same lack luster turret cheeks as tanks like the Maus at Tier X and most Soviet tanks with a round front turret (IS, KV-1S, T-44, T-34-85, etc). This makes them easily penetrable when they go into hull down positions. Simply load premium ammo and shoot for either the sides of the gun for the Lupus or the tips of the turret sides on the Mutant Jr. You'll see what I mean hopefully.

 

Are you kidding me?   Both are ridiculously OP tanks -- yes they have some minor weaknesses - that can be easily covered up by a half way decent player.

 

The fact they mentioned buff and Lupus in the same sentence makes me question the entire point of the buff's, and it's relaibility.

 

WG said they are going to rebalance tier 7 due to the broken number of premiums (Lupus, Helsing, Dracula, Dragon, Nameless, Mutant).

   Any idea of buffs to a single one of them tosses out the point.

Many of the tech tree tanks need buffs way before any of the ridiculously OP Premiums.


 

 
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4sfield #14 Posted 08 December 2017 - 11:09 PM

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View Post__Crusader6__, on 08 December 2017 - 05:54 PM, said:

 

Are you kidding me? 

 

The fact they mentioned buff and Lupus in the same sentence makes me question the entire point of the buff's, and it's relaibility.

 

  It has to be a joke right?


 

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Vino4Ever #15 Posted 08 December 2017 - 11:11 PM

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The Nameless, Lupus and M6A2E1 will finally be relevant  :rolleyes:


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View PostVino4Ever, on 08 December 2017 - 06:11 PM, said:

The Nameless, Lupus and M6A2E1 will finally be relevant  :rolleyes:

 

  If you have half a brain, they already are.


 

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Vino4Ever #17 Posted 08 December 2017 - 11:16 PM

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View Post4sfield, on 08 December 2017 - 06:14 PM, said:

 

  If you have half a brain, they already are.

 

Seems your sarcasm detection meter needs to be adjusted.


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View PostVino4Ever, on 08 December 2017 - 06:16 PM, said:

 

Seems your sarcasm detection meter needs to be adjusted.

 

  I wasn’t being sarcastic, I was being realistic. There’s enough sarcasm going around in this thread as it is.

 

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View Post4sfield, on 08 December 2017 - 06:21 PM, said:

 

  I wasn’t being sarcastic, I was being realistic. There’s enough sarcasm going around in this thread as it is.

 

I was being sarcastic, which you obviously failed to pick up on. 


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