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mloomis2504 #181 Posted 13 January 2018 - 10:45 PM

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View Postlsubacker22, on 13 January 2018 - 05:12 PM, said:

Crusader, looking at the team layout, had i been in my T34 replacing 1 of the x-wing heavies, i too would have gone to town as the teams are broken down.  Your advantage were your heavies; i eoukd have gone town and middle.  Secondly,  if you saw them goong to town and still tried to flank and play the hero, you got what you deserve... 

Shocking actually - I can’t think of a stronger tier 8 wrecking town from cave side.  


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Had you started the game in the west spawn, yes, i woukd have gone caves all day.  But from the east with the teams you had? Toen and mid was the correct call.   

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View Postlsubacker22, on 13 January 2018 - 05:46 PM, said:

Had you started the game in the west spawn, yes, i woukd have gone caves all day.  But from the east with the teams you had? Toen and mid was the correct call.   

 

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View Post__Crusader6__, on 13 January 2018 - 10:16 AM, said:

Firstly I want to again point out that this wasn’t a clan complaint. 

I have friends in XWing and other rebel scum clans ;)

 

 

I wasn’t trying to start a giant controversy with posting this I was just frustrated with a known clan  doing something odd ball and those are one of the things it really frustrates me.  

I don’t expect the general public to to do anything with the E75 Called town I was like yeah this guys 43% and freaking retarded.   

 

Secondly several Triarii can attest I’ve exploded on several clanmates for similar. 

   I’ve downvoted three members of the Clan family for doing similar- and made a thread on that on our forum and discord. 

 

 

 

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View Postlsubacker22, on 13 January 2018 - 05:46 PM, said:

Had you started the game in the west spawn, yes, i woukd have gone caves all day.  But from the east with the teams you had? Toen and mid was the correct call.   

LOL.  K. 



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View Postchristian1470, on 12 January 2018 - 09:27 PM, said:

After seeing your three individual comments, I can assure you, you have picked an apt name for yourself. "Let's go town against a t95 and a Tortoise!" is about the stupidest thing ever said in this game. Before you go claiming I'm blindly supporting a clan mate, let me just preemptively say that you'd be wrong. Our clan values good play above all else. If Crusader made a stupid call I'd be the first to point it out. He didn't. You did. That simple. 

 

There were two possibilities:

1) The red T95 and Tortoise go town, most likely with the other reds and you are screened. Take Tort and the T95 are way better in town than the tanks that you were driving by the way.

2) Nobody from the reds go town, they go caves and the rest of your team is screwed and you have nothing to shoot at. This is what happens in Crusader6 case.

 

I think I was Lokeen who once said, that you can’t run a flank when you don’t know where the reds are. if you have no clue where the reds are , especially in a slow tank, you are not running a flank, you are just taking a huge gamble with lousy odds.


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View PostSpekulatius, on 13 January 2018 - 11:07 PM, said:

 

There were two possibilities:

1) The red T95 and Tortoise go town, most likely with the other reds and you are screened. Take Tort and the T95 are way better in town than the tanks that you were driving by the way.

2) Nobody from the reds go town, they go caves and the rest of your team is screwed and you have nothing to shoot at. This is what happens in Crusader6 case.

 

I think I was Lokeen who once said, that you can’t run a flank when you don’t know where the reds are. if you have no clue where the reds are , especially in a slow tank, you are not running a flank, you are just taking a huge gamble with lousy odds.

 

well, my t34 stats are right in line with people commenting and scrutinizing what i have said.  Yes, as crusader laid it out, i have gone to town and won more of these battles on goldville than i have lost.  I could have made the simple assumption that all 7 reds went to caves; and my T34 would have had a field day from town

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Really?  You and i are pretty much equal in stats....why dont you guys run an honest traing room and play out the scenario??

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View Postlsubacker22, on 14 January 2018 - 08:32 AM, said:

And no offense Wipwap,  id know a little better than you, seal clubber...

 

LoL   

Pot Keattle Black..... you do realise we have about the same average tier over our careers.......

 

Oh and psst your average tier is lower than than mine over the last 30 days

 

 



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View PostTonnerreCadien, on 13 January 2018 - 12:32 PM, said:

Ugh. Same damn thing happened to me today. Blackgoldville, in a KV-1, start heading for the caves. From my perspective, it looks like our meds and lights are going there, too. One asks for help, and I give an "Affirmative" only to realize they're heading towards me... heading to the refinery. I type "Caves No refinery," but some newbie in a PZ IV says "Negative," and then gives me lip.

 

Guess what? I light up a Leopard and a T-34. I ask for help. Lip-boy replies "Negative." I'm holding my own until an SU moves into position to snipe at me. Now I am facing three alone. Help finally arrives in the form of a T-28, who is nearly instantly vaporized. No other help is coming. I do the best I can, but I end up getting killed.

 

Now I'm a little miffed. I tell lip-boy that we're going to lose because the lemmings listened to him. I called him a 40%er. 

 

I check his record after the game, and it was clear I owed him an apology.

 

 

His WR was 35%. Sigh.

 

Yep, that is the worst case scenario. Some battles are lost before the first shot is fired. It happened to me several times in maps like Middldburg that I crawled up hill in my T-28 Proto, to help our the reds, which seems to be going up, then dance around the ridge line, the turn around  and fly by me to head to town. You do know then it’s all over.

 

Even in a fast tank, it is hard to do a 180Deg turn when the reds are pushing and still have an intact teamafter you reorganize. Some tanks may get out, while losing a lot of HP most likely, but I bet at least one tank will not make it out alive from a fallen flank.


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View PostWipWapJaws, on 13 January 2018 - 11:31 PM, said:

 

LoL   

Pot Keattle Black..... you do realise we have about the same average tier over our careers.......

 

Oh and psst your average tier is lower than than mine over the last 30 days

 

 

47 and 48.  What are wipwap's tier 10 win percentages in Stalin's monster mediums....youre not at my level



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View Postlsubacker22, on 14 January 2018 - 09:50 AM, said:

47 and 48.  What are wipwap's tier 10 win percentages in Stalin's monster mediums....youre not at my level

 

Says the guy who has barely one tank above tier 7 over his average, ur right I’m not at ur level....lol

Didnt u get taught not to throw stones in glass houses :-)



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View PostWipWapJaws, on 13 January 2018 - 07:21 PM, said:

 

Says the guy who has barely one tank above tier 7 over his average, ur right I’m not at ur level....lol

Didnt u get taught not to throw stones in glass houses :-)

 

maybe we should drop the pissing content, admit lsubacker22 isn't quite right in the head, and move on :)

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View Postchristian1470, on 14 January 2018 - 10:37 AM, said:

 

maybe we should drop the pissing content, admit lsubacker22 isn't quite right in the head, and move on :)

 

Aww but I was having fun....

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Why would you take a hull down heavy to a spot it can’t hull down? That doesn’t make sense isubacker. 

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View PostGavidoc01, on 14 January 2018 - 12:56 AM, said:

Why would you take a hull down heavy to a spot it can’t hull down? That doesn’t make sense isubacker. 

I wouldve run the other heavues right down the road in front of town. If i had my T34, i would have asked meds to go with me in the middle where theres plenty of hull doen spots.  I have had very poor luck running my T34 to the caves.  Usually before i even get there the greens are already down on hit points.   It usually goes like this; the reds have the med/lights advantage yet we all go caves.  An overzealous hreen medium/light or 2 or 3, push too far, too fast before heavies can support.  Inevitably,  we lose a tank or 2 before i ever get in a spot to get a high chance shot.  Now im running a 58% 1700 damage T34.  Its not like im clueless...in such cases, if its a likely loss, ill farm damage as long as i can.  Im sure you will all agree its better to lose doing 2k damage than it is to lose doing 800 damage.  



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View Postlsubacker22, on 13 January 2018 - 08:05 PM, said:

I wouldve run the other heavues right down the road in front of town. If i had my T34, i would have asked meds to go with me in the middle where theres plenty of hull doen spots.  I have had very poor luck running my T34 to the caves.  Usually before i even get there the greens are already down on hit points.   It usually goes like this; the reds have the med/lights advantage yet we all go caves.  An overzealous hreen medium/light or 2 or 3, push too far, too fast before heavies can support.  Inevitably,  we lose a tank or 2 before i ever get in a spot to get a high chance shot.  Now im running a 58% 1700 damage T34.  Its not like im clueless...in such cases, if its a likely loss, ill farm damage as long as i can.  Im sure you will all agree its better to lose doing 2k damage than it is to lose doing 800 damage.  

 

No those are decent stats. Consider this though next time. Dont go caves but go middle to utilize the berms as cover next time. Utilize the terrain. Do that (next to the cap area) gives you shots on both town and caves. Also tell your meds to hold instead of rushing. Town doesn’t work most times on black goldville. It and middleburg are lopsided to the high ground being the more effective location but goldville is even worse compared to middleburg. Unlike middleburg where you have spots you can set up without crossfire, goldville on the town side doesn’t if you want to try and get shots on those at the caves. You end up exposing yourself to multiple angles in the process. Middleburg you expose yourself to fewer lanes. 


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View Postlsubacker22, on 13 January 2018 - 05:05 PM, said:

I wouldve run the other heavues right down the road in front of town. If i had my T34, i would have asked meds to go with me in the middle where theres plenty of hull doen spots.  I have had very poor luck running my T34 to the caves.  Usually before i even get there the greens are already down on hit points.   It usually goes like this; the reds have the med/lights advantage yet we all go caves.  An overzealous hreen medium/light or 2 or 3, push too far, too fast before heavies can support.  Inevitably,  we lose a tank or 2 before i ever get in a spot to get a high chance shot.  Now im running a 58% 1700 damage T34.  Its not like im clueless...in such cases, if its a likely loss, ill farm damage as long as i can.  Im sure you will all agree its better to lose doing 2k damage than it is to lose doing 800 damage.  

 

Which tanks do you do more than 2k avg damage in?

 


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View Postdindincf, on 14 January 2018 - 01:24 AM, said:

 

Which tanks do you do more than 2k avg damage in?

 

Me, myself?? Before i deployed,  i had a top 10 M46 Patton averaging 2400 damage.  Its the only tank ive run from the start that averaged over 2k.  Im sure id easily run over 2k in my m103, e4, e5, m48 would probably push 3k






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