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Pastaguy2003 #1 Posted 16 January 2018 - 06:03 PM

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A lot of people hate the 183, including me.  However, I don't think it should be nerfed.  I think it should be replaced with the fv4005.  The fv4005 has bad turret armour, which would allow other tanks to HE it, just like the 183 can hesh them.

 

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blahblahguy #2 Posted 16 January 2018 - 06:14 PM

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Its more likely to make the rest of the 183 player base snipe since they become a lot larger and weaker
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MudkipAtWar #3 Posted 16 January 2018 - 06:17 PM

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Increase the reload or reduce camo is my two cents

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Pastaguy2003 #4 Posted 16 January 2018 - 06:18 PM

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View Postblahblahguy, on 16 January 2018 - 06:14 PM, said:

Its more likely to make the rest of the 183 player base snipe since they become a lot larger and weaker

 

Yes, but most fv215b 183 players hardly stray from there spawn, so there wouldn't be much change.

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djhiz #5 Posted 16 January 2018 - 06:18 PM

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Or they could replace it with the Badger, like on PC, and people who have it currently unlocked can keep it as a reward tank.

 

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MudkipAtWar #6 Posted 16 January 2018 - 06:19 PM

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View Postdjhiz, on 16 January 2018 - 01:18 PM, said:

Or they could replace it with the Badger, like on PC, and people who have it currently unlocked can keep it as a reward tank.

 


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SpartacusDiablo #7 Posted 16 January 2018 - 06:20 PM

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I don't mind it.  I just get tired of seeing 4 tank destroyers (or more) on each team.  It's meant to be a support class so put limits on the numbers that can be in a game.  I think that 2 per team is perfectly reasonable.

Pastaguy2003 #8 Posted 16 January 2018 - 06:26 PM

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View Postdjhiz, on 16 January 2018 - 06:18 PM, said:

Or they could replace it with the Badger, like on PC, and people who have it currently unlocked can keep it as a reward tank.

 

I agree with this, but I also think the 183 keeps people on there toes, ready to move.  I don't think it should be replaced, but I think another british td line should be added.

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Pastaguy2003 #9 Posted 16 January 2018 - 06:27 PM

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View PostSpartacusDiablo, on 16 January 2018 - 06:20 PM, said:

I don't mind it. I just get tired of seeing 4 tank destroyers (or more) on each team. It's meant to be a support class so put limits on the numbers that can be in a game. I think that 2 per team is perfectly reasonable.

 

You think it is reasonable until they both hesh you :teethhappy:

 

but yes, 2 aside is reasonable, but when I see 3+ on a team I consider going afk, and breaking my phone.


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SpartacusDiablo #10 Posted 16 January 2018 - 06:32 PM

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View PostPastaguy2003, on 16 January 2018 - 01:27 PM, said:

 

You think it is reasonable until they both hesh you :teethhappy:

 

but yes, 2 aside is reasonable, but when I see 3+ on a team I consider going afk, and breaking my phone.

It turns a dynamic game into a stagnant game when there are more than 3.  Get the bulk of the reds spotted, go to flank, nope there is a TD sitting in a corridor waiting for me, try to flank him, nope there is another TD sitting in another corridor waiting for me.  Really drags the game down.



__Boomer2__ #11 Posted 16 January 2018 - 07:07 PM

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Player_5773117413 #12 Posted 16 January 2018 - 07:36 PM

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It's not overpowered. People are just quick to remember the one time they got HESHed and gripe about that yet they forget the other countless times they were out DPM'ed by an object 140 or Leo in the old tier 10.

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View PostMudkipAtWar, on 17 January 2018 - 04:17 AM, said:

Increase the reload or reduce camo is my two cents

 

 

Or just reduce its accuracy to more of a shot gun than a sniper rifle



PlagueVendor #14 Posted 16 January 2018 - 08:28 PM

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I like the 183 but would like to see improvements in exchange for a gun nerf: better gun depression, better armor, faster reload and improved mobility. I would like the tank even more with these proposed changes and believe it would be balanced and more competitive.

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CANADIAN_ARMED_FORCE #15 Posted 16 January 2018 - 08:51 PM

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View PostPastaguy2003, on 16 January 2018 - 01:03 PM, said:

A lot of people hate the 183, including me.  However, I don't think it should be nerfed.  I think it should be replaced with the fv4005.  The fv4005 has bad turret armour, which would allow other tanks to HE it, just like the 183 can hesh them.

 

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Honestly, what I hear and I agree with someone I will not name him. That person said that, the FVB 183 is not OP, meaning it is OP in a way of popularity 

and AP damage. If I remember, when it came people complained that the FVB 183 AP damage was not like one on the PC. If I am correct. So they buff AP. Afterwards they nerf its turret armour. Why kill a tank that is so popular that is played by more than 7000 players ?

 

Imagine if they nerf it ok ? For everyone who hates it and wants it nerf ( this is just an example if this happens). You kill a popular tank. What is next ? the JAG-E100 TD tier X. That might be the next popular TD. Everyone will hope on that TD. Then you will start seeing players hop on that tank. If that is the case people will complain to put back the FVB 183 or even say nerf the JAG-E100. (For your information I AM NOT FOR THE NERF OF FVB 183 OR AGAINST IT) this is just the preview of almost what might happen of killing a popular tank.



FUterminator #16 Posted 16 January 2018 - 10:49 PM

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I’m fine with it.. it doesn’t bother me.. 

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View PostPastaguy2003, on 16 January 2018 - 06:03 PM, said:

A lot of people hate the 183, including me.  However, I don't think it should be nerfed.  I think it should be replaced with the fv4005.  The fv4005 has bad turret armour, which would allow other tanks to HE it, just like the 183 can hesh them.

 

Thoughts?

If you watched sk8trxms video on this topic, people would complain the fv4005 is OP after about a month



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replace the 183 with the Fv217 Badger

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xXZachAttackXx_EOG #19 Posted 19 June 2018 - 02:38 AM

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Guess Ill say my two cents again, but it can't be nerfed, buffed, or removed. There'd be outrage if any of those things happened. 

It needs to be rebalanced so it no longer has premium hesh, just heat/apcr, have it's cheap hesh given a miniscule pen buff, and improve it's armor so it can actually bounce a shot or two and feel more like a logical progression from the tortise. Oh and also slightly reduce mobility and/or speed.


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View PostxXZachAttackXx_EOG, on 18 June 2018 - 09:38 PM, said:

Guess Ill say my two cents again, but it can't be nerfed, buffed, or removed. There'd be outrage if any of those things happened. 

It needs to be rebalanced so it no longer has premium hesh, just heat/apcr, have it's cheap hesh given a miniscule pen buff, and improve it's armor so it can actually bounce a shot or two and feel more like a logical progression from the tortise. Oh and also slightly reduce mobility and/or speed.

"but it can't be nerfed, buffed, or removed. There'd be outrage if any of those things happened."

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